Why Kerry Lost The 2004 Election

[tunaplanet 0]

There were a few reasons as to why Kerry lost his attempt at becoming POTUS. Some are obviously more important than others but in the end they all added up to his demise at his goal at being our president. Here are a few.




Flip Flops

This phrase was used almost on a daily basis to describe Kerry and rightfully so. Instead of coming out and saying what he believed in he tried to be everyones candidate. The American people saw right through it. Americans want a man who will come out and say, "You may not agree with everything I stand for but you will always, without a doubt know where I stand on every issue." That, my friends, is what the US wants in a POTUS. Quit trying to be something you're not and just show us who you are and what you believe in and stand for.

Tereza Heinz Kerry

What can be said of Cruella De Ville. When we think of first ladies we think of our own mothers...women like Laura Bush, Nancy Regan, Barbara Bush, etc... Somehow THK just doesn't fit that mold. She is snobish, rude, conceited, arrogant and just a shallow person in general. You can pick any of a hundred of her tasteless comments during the campaign that shows you what kind of person TKH is.

Vietnam

Forget wether or not his medals were legitiment or not. Nevermind the fact he lied about his PHs just to go home early. What hurt Kerry tremendously was the fact that he came back home and betrayed his fellow soldiers who were fighting bravely in a ferocious war. He showed his true colors in all of our eyes. He is not a man of dedication. He is a man who does not possess the word "loyalty" in his vocabulary. Not who I want as POTUS. I want a man who will stand up and support his men and not betray them when the going gets tough. Kerry showed us he has no character.

Media

I feel the American people are finally realizing the media is extremely biased towards the left. CBS and their dispicable forged documents finally showed Americans that the media despises republicans and will stop at nothing to bring that said candidates POTUS down. In the 2004 election the media's relentless bashing of Bush ultimately backfired in the end.

Just simply...a bad person

Sounds too simple and silly to be true but in the end that is exactly what Kerry is. He was too negative in everything he said, unclear on his plan to win the war in Iraq, no idea on his economic agenda and countless other uncertainties.

In the end, when the American heartland went into that booth they knew who would be the candidate best qualified to lead them. They knew who had decent morals, common sense and a purpose. In the end we Americans are too good of people to pull the lever for someone like Kerry.

When I look at Bush I see a man. A leader. I see one of us. I see a hard working man who genuinely cares about me and my fellow Americans. I see dedication. I see loyalty. I see someone who reads like an open book. You can ask me anything regarding his stances on any issue and I could almost certainly tell you where he stands. Is he the best speaker? Is he fluently spoken and tongued? No. But you know what? He cares about me. He cares about you. He cares about every citizen of these great 50 states. He leads from the front.

GWB is a person I am proud of. He is a man. He is a leader. And most of all...he is my president.

Forty-two

[Jib 0]

It's simpler than that: Kerry was left of Ted and that's left.

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the depth of his depravity sickens me.
-- Jerry Falwell, People v. Larry Flynt

[tunaplanet 0]

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It's simpler than that: Kerry was left of Ted and that's left.

This is another great point. You have the most liberal person in the Senate (Kerry) standing next to his running mate who is probably the 2nd most liberal man in the Senate (Edwards) and you have Ted Kennedy standing behind them giving his complete support.

That is not the kind of people the American heartland want. That is not what America stands for.

Forty-two

[ahegeman 0]

I actually liked THK. Sure, she was brash and kinda bitchy, but I really don't think she was particularly happy with keeping god-awful hours moving around with the traveling circus that is a presidential campaign. She didn't want it. I think she just wanted to sit around in her Chanels, drink wine, travel, and enjoy the good life. I give her props for supporting her husband's efforts while getting bashed from every angle.

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There is a fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness'.
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Bullshit. She's been there done that. Sure, she hated having to have photo ops at Wendy's, but wanted to be 1st lady more than he did. That way she could entertain at the White House. Steroids for her ego!

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the depth of his depravity sickens me.
-- Jerry Falwell, People v. Larry Flynt

[ahegeman 0]

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but wanted to be 1st lady more than he did.

I dunno, how bad do you think John Kerry wanted to be first lady?

I'm not convinced. Her house is probably nicer than the White House, and not filled with bureaucrats and sycophants. Being the First Lady means you lose your freedom. I doubt she thought it was worth it to be able to serve cocktails at the White House. Of course, I'm just theorizing, but so are you.

All that being said, I didn't want her to be First Lady either.

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There is a fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness'.
--Dave Barry

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Why'd she marry a Senator?
There is prestige that comes along with such office.
When you're really rich and can have anything you want, all that's left is power.

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the depth of his depravity sickens me.
-- Jerry Falwell, People v. Larry Flynt

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I believe the biggest reason he lost is Americans view people not so much on what someone says, but what they DO. There was no consistency in what Kerry did. He didn't stand out on any BIG legislation in the Senate, etc.

The hogwash about him being the MOST liberal voting record in the Senate is just that...hogwash. The timeframe these stats were taken from were during the throes of the Democratic primaries when he was spending most of his time campaigning and only voting on issues that appealed to the "far-left" of the party (which has/had to be done to get the nod). Overall his record is pretty vanilla.

Don't get me wrong, I personally don't care for Mr Kerry and I voted for President Bush (both times), but this bashing has to stop.

We need to come together as a Nation and move forward.

"The more you read and observe about this Politics thing, you got to admit that each party is worse than the other. The one that's out always looks the best."
Will Rogers

[quade 4]

Interesting . . .

So, you don't see this as a victory for GWB, but rather simply a failure of Kerry.

Interesting, because GWB was only a few percentage points from losing to this guy so what does that say about GWB?

On the other hand, if you'd said that GWB's team simply ran a better game . . . I could easliy accept that because the proof is in the result.

quade -
The World's Most Boring Skydiver

[lawrocket 3]

Yours is a parsimonious way of looking at it quade, but the fun is in the details. Democrats are asking, "Why did we lose this election." Not, "How did Bush win?" Not, "How did the American people view Bush?"

No, the Dems are asking the hard questions. I'm sure they view it as a failure, and not that Bush played the better game. The question the Dems are asking are, "How can we get votes east of California and south of Maryland?" The Democrats do not attribute the geographic asskicking to "gamesmanship" on the part of Bush. They are assessing what Democratic candidate can do well there.

The Republicans have a disconnect with the population centers of California, the West Coast, New York, Pennsylvania, New England, and the upper Midwest. Republicans are correct in their belief that they do not need these population centers.

The Democrats NEED three or four states in flyover country to win, and wooden lefty intellectuals will not make it there.

Kerry simply could not connect with Joe Sixpack of middle America. Bush can. These are the people that will boycott the Dixie Chicks for supporting Kerry, not show up to see Kerry because Bruce Springsteen and REM are playing a show with him.

Clinton could get that vote by playing up his country boy roots, meanwhile being cunning in the liberal population centers.

I'd suggest the Democrats change their thinking about rednecks and truck-driving country folk. Those people they insult gave Bush another term...

My wife is hotter than your wife.

[Vallerina 2]

I can't believe that the horse that died is still being shot at.

There's a thin line between Saturday night and Sunday morning

[tunaplanet 0]

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GWB was only a few percentage points from losing to this guy

You can spin it a hundred different ways. For instance, I could say...

- GWB was the first man to win the majority vote since 88...something Clinton could never do.

- GWB won by over 3.5 million votes.

Bottom line your man lost because of what I mentioned in the above. LawRocket touched on a good point as well. He couldn't connect with the regular, everyday people. You know...the heartland of America.

America doesn't want the Ted Kennedy and Michael Moores...they want good, decent, hard-working, honest people...just like the man that was elected on the 2nd of this month.

Forty-two

[quade 4]

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Yours is a parsimonious way of looking at it quade, but the fun is in the details. Democrats are asking, "Why did we lose this election." Not, "How did Bush win?" Not, "How did the American people view Bush?"

No. I think they're looking at virtually -everything-.

When was it, (last year?) . . . GWB came out in favor of a US Constitutional Amendment defining marriage as only being between a man and a woman. At the time I thought he was nuts. I was thinking, "what country do I live in?" Little did I realize that this was one of the key issues that would play in the campaign . . . not overtly, but rather acting as a catalyst for several state amendments and energizing a certain sector of the religious right. It had ZERO chance of getting through as a US Constitutional Amendment, but as a state issue . . . yep. It was, as it turns out . . . a -brilliant- move. I don't know if he came up with it or Karl Rove did (I kinda suspect Karl), but it -was- gamesmanship and it worked.

quade -
The World's Most Boring Skydiver

[tunaplanet 0]

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but it -was- gamesmanship and it worked.

Nope. It was him being honest with his beliefs despite what anyone else thought. He said what was on his mind and how he felt. In the end America appreciates that and respects it...despite wether or not they agree with it.

This is something Kerry could not do. He tried to be everyone's candidate. He tried to be on both sides of every issue in a desperate attempt to win everyone's support.

America saw right through it.

Good people. Decent people. Hard-working people. This is who America wants. That is who America got.

Forty-two

[Muenkel 0]

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Interesting, because GWB was only a few percentage points from losing to this guy so what does that say about GWB?

The truth is Quade is this was a much bigger win for GWB than a few percentage points. He won the popular vote with the biggest numbers since I believe '68 (big whining point for the Dems in 2000). Daschle went down. First time a senate leader went down in 52 years. Katherine Harris won election (Remember her, the big villain of '00). Florida went much more heavily for GWB. The GOP picked up 4 more seats in the senate and more seats in the House.

Since the country is apparently so divided, the above facts make this a huge win for GWB.

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Chris

[tunaplanet 0]

You're absolutely right. America is not buying the liberal mindset and beliefs. Those may work in another country but not mine. America sides with decency, honesty and good morals.

I said it once and I'll say it again...It's time the libs take a long, hard, deep look at themselves and their political agenda. America isn't buying into it. Don't believe me? Pick up a paper and you'll see Bush won and the republicans now control the Senate, House and will decide possibly up to 3 Supreme Court Justices.

Forty-two

[Vallerina 2]

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Nope. It was him being honest with his beliefs despite what anyone else thought. He said what was on his mind and how he felt. In the end America appreciates that and respects it...despite wether or not they agree with it.

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! Yeah...his beliefs about social security four years ago meant shit. Americans never learn.

There's a thin line between Saturday night and Sunday morning

[crwtom 0]

now and with all that long list (didn't get far as it started reading
like a bland reiteration of the Rovaganda I heard a 1000 times
already) with all that GWB only made 51:48 - pretty pittyful.

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Flip Flops

This phrase was used almost on a daily basis to describe Kerry and rightfully so.

I disagree after watching the SNL debate spoofs. Kerry consistently supported the position of the groups he was talking to - 100% percent of the time.

That's not "Flip Flopping", it's "Pandering"

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[tunaplanet 0]

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with all that GWB only made 51:48 - pretty pittyful.

You consider being the first man to win the majority since 88 pitiful?

Wow. Not sure I see the logic in that. Clinton never won the majority. Bush did.

Forty-two

[Muenkel 0]

I agree. GWB kept his eye on the ball and didn't waiver. Kerry kept his eye on the polls and always waivered.

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Chris

[lawrocket 3]

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I don't know if he came up with it or Karl Rove did (I kinda suspect Karl), but it -was- gamesmanship and it worked.

Another example of Republican ways. Republicans generally believe that candidates can be too smart for their own good. Nobody accuses GWB of being the brightest guy. Nor did anyone ever suggest Reagan was the most intelligent dude around. GHWB may have been brighter, but certainly there were many smarter than him.

Kerry is a smart dude, just like Gore. Also like Hillary and Jimmy Carter. And they all believe that they're the smartest folks around. Certainly, nobody in Clinton's cabinet was smarter than he was.

GWB, like Reagan, knows he's not the smartest guy. Bush therefore surrounds himself with brilliance. The average Joe can relate to Bush. The "elite" can recognize that Rice, Powell, and Rove are pretty smart folks.

So, perhaps the Dems should realize that we Americans don't want candidates who say, "I'm smarter than him - he's a moron." Why? Because Americans all know someone liek that - who thinks he can tell you what's best for you, a la Clinton's "We could give it all back to you and hope you spend it right... " American people don't like being talked down to.

The Dems better figure out how to knock off the "better and smarter than thou" stuff and calling conservatives "morons" and "evil." It simply is not working anymore.

The Dems better learn to play games whose rule is to "quit acting like Democrats."

My wife is hotter than your wife.

[skydyvr 0]

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America doesn't want the Ted Kennedy and Michael Moores...they want good, decent, hard-working, honest people...just like the man that was elected on the 2nd of this month.

That's the bottom line.

And I hope George Soros, Michael Moore, and the rest of the liberal whackjobs out there NEVER realize just how much they contributed to getting GWB elected. Sweet.

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[peacefuljeffrey 0]

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This is something Kerry could not do. He tried to be everyone's candidate. He tried to be on both sides of every issue in a desperate attempt to win everyone's support.

America saw right through it.

Exactly.
All one need do is look at Kerry's 100% anti-gun voting record in the senate, and then at his pathetic, despicable attempt to FOOL American gun owners into thinking a) that he's a hunter "just like them," and b) that he does not stand front-and-center for taking away, in large or small chunks it matters not, their right to own firearms.

He looked us in the face and told us what we knew was an obvious lie. We don't like that.

-Jeffrey

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[Tonto 1]

This whole thread sounds like a game of soggy biscut to me.

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