Packing question

[gunsmokex 1]

I've been trying to shorten and refine my pack jobs and came across this video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9bVyAfDEAeU

At 1:45 she wraps the tail around the brake lines and what looks like almost even around the D lines.

What exactly does this help? Or what problems can it cause? Does anyone do this?

This video has a lot of different things going on in it than I'm used to but I guess its all the same principle I like her bagging technique and there are some very helpful tips in the video.

Recently I've been having line twist problems or at the minimum a 90^ or 180^ turn and just at the slider gets to the bottom or slaps down. I can correct it quick with rear risers but I still do not like it, did have one major line twist to the point where I touched my cutaway handle as I looked at my alti and then calmed down knowing at had another 1000' to go.

Anyways I'm trying to find a compromise between a nice soft opening but yet not inducing a twist so I've really been working on packing different ways to see what my canopy likes. My canopy is a PISA Hornet 170 loaded 1:1. Thought it might be me doing leg turns on full stretch so I crossed my feet and that didn't seem to make a difference. I just had my canopy relined as well. I had another person pack it over the weekend and it opened great and on headed but it was a little bit more firm than I like my bones are getting old and I really do not want to go through another hard opening like I have in the past.

I've had others watch my deployment as well so it hasn't been a body position problem I always make sure to get big and actually slow down on deployment and I'm not one to pull in a track like some people I know. Basically I've narrowed it down to my pack job.

I might try hiding the front stabilizers under the slider as she does as well and see what that does.


Maybe a demo on a Saphire 3 is in my future, we'll see. I'll keep at it and will talk to my rigger as well. Any tips you guys might have I'm all ears too.

[Pobrause 6]

gunsmokex

At 1:45 she wraps the tail around the brake lines and what looks like almost even around the D lines.

What exactly does this help? Or what problems can it cause? Does anyone do this?

Those who use it do so because they think it helps in preventing lineovers. If you leave the stearing and D lines exposed and push the nose in too much you have lines all spread out inside your packjob. This helps to keep them in place.

-------------------------------------------------------

To absent friends

[Quagmirian 40]

Yeah, that's the only reason I do it. Not so much about preventing lineovers as keeping the brake lines towards the centre.

[gowlerk 2,216]

Quagmirian

Yeah, that's the only reason I do it. Not so much about preventing lineovers as keeping the brake lines towards the centre.

I've never done that. But the reason to keep the brake lines in the centre is generally to prevent them going over. The method shown looks like a good way to get line burn on the tail though. As a rule, the fabric gets pleated and pushed away from the centre and the lines get placed into the centre. But all kinds of things work just fine, and I'm sure this will too.

Always remember the brave children who died defending your right to bear arms. Freedom is not free.

[hackish 8]

She does a lot of stuff in there. I feel like there are a lot of extra steps that complicate the process without making the packjob better. Simpler and fewer steps allows you to focus on the important parts.

When you're making the cone before laying it down, I don't like to make big folds to close it because it pulls your C lines around the packjob.

If you do break it down to simple actions, keeping the lines in the middle are important as is ensuring the slider is well placed firmly on its stops and stays there.

Some of the best packing info can be found on the PD website. I know they didn't manufacture your canopy specifically but they probably do the most R&D of any manufacturer by a stretch of 5x.

-Michael

[tikl68 6]

I agree with Hackish. I have been a packer for a long time and am known for on heading and easy openings. I recently packed for a person on a poker run with me and some friends to 5 different dz's on a canopy she had not jumped in a while and loved all 5 openings and made a point to tell me so. I also have packed for the sos record attempts several times and my customers love my openings, they are easy on the old bones they say. It is difficult to tell you all the techniques on this electronic box, but is better shown in person. There are ways to simplify/shorten the pack job with out sacrificing safety or quality.
I have often had some people tell me the opening took a little to long of a snivel can I speed it up just a lil bit.
If you ever visit the west coast(so cal) shoot me pm ahead of time and I can spend about a hour with you, that should help a lot.

[davenuk 8]

any good making a you tube vid?

[tikl68 6]

Ya I could but my internet skilz are far less accomplished than my packing skilz. Not sure I could get it posted. I shot a video for a friend so he could watch it/practice when he was out of town, but in my opinion I would like to just do it with out trying to explain as I pack , but try to explain afterwards and let you see the differences between what I do, you do, and the video that was posted here. I also teach the packing course for aff and have broken it down to make sense and keep it simple.

[Tuiske 0]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kd-7u4wyFeY

IG @skydive_tuke

[tikl68 6]

Not bad but some unnecessary steps and even with editing and some of the video sped up a little bit it still took over 8 minutes. davnuk also wanted to try to try and shave some time off his pack time without sacrificing safety or quality. Some of the techniques in the video in my experience are not necessary IMHO. 4 sport rigs on a 20 min call, or two tandems in 15 min call.