WhirledWeb 0 #1 November 18, 2004 Some estimates have the amount of oil in Iraq to be about 112 Billion Barrels of oil... some estimate a lot higher due to the lack of disovery and research done... The war is costing the United States about 4 Billion dollars a month. I'm confused - if we liberated them, and they're so "happy about it" (sarcastic tone in place) - why is it that we are not using the oil from Iraq to fund the war to liberate them from tyranny? What am I missing? (asking honestly, as I'm not a big knowledge-bank of world economy issues) Thanks! -Mark . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Don't be afraid of death, be afraid of the unlived life. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #2 November 18, 2004 QuoteSome estimates have the amount of oil in Iraq to be about 112 Billion Barrels of oil... some estimate a lot higher due to the lack of disovery and research done... The war is costing the United States about 4 Billion dollars a month. I'm confused - if we liberated them, and they're so "happy about it" (sarcastic tone in place) - why is it that we are not using the oil from Iraq to fund the war to liberate them from tyranny? What am I missing? (asking honestly, as I'm not a big knowledge-bank of world economy issues) Thanks! -Mark Because the Liberals would start screaming "See, I told you it was a War for Oil" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhillyKev 0 #3 November 18, 2004 WRONG! I take it from that comment that you believe we should take the oil to pay us back. First of all, Iraq's oil production has been severely damaged. Second, the cost of the war is about 10billion a month and Iraq's oil output at full capacity would only generate double that in a year. And third, the idea behind the invasion of Iraq was to create a stable democracy in the region, which won't happen if you take away their chief export. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hazarrd 1 #4 November 18, 2004 maybe we didn't liberate them? might wanna rethink what you wrote. .-. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #6 November 18, 2004 Perhaps you missed the ? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhillyKev 0 #7 November 18, 2004 Sorry...thought that was just you gloating that you got to insult liberals again. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,991 #8 November 18, 2004 >why is it that we are not using the oil from Iraq to fund the war to >liberate them from tyranny? This was one plan originally floated; unfortunately, we destroyed their infrastructure pretty throroughly, and it's going to be a while before they can get back up to speed. Plus which: "Grateful" insurgents keep blowing up the pipelines. We don't want to piss off the new government too much; they might want to give us the boot, and then we'd have to do a regime change again. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AndyMan 7 #9 November 18, 2004 In the old days, "charging" for "liberation" had a more accurate name. "Pillage". _Am__ You put the fun in "funnel" - craichead. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WhirledWeb 0 #10 November 18, 2004 ahh, the good old days. Back when we could use the word "pirate" instead of freedom fighter . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Don't be afraid of death, be afraid of the unlived life. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #11 November 18, 2004 QuoteSorry...thought that was just you gloating that you got to insult liberals again. Oh come on don't be so defensive. It was just a little jab. I meant no harm. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnRich 4 #12 November 18, 2004 Quote"Grateful" insurgents keep blowing up the pipelines. You would think if they're such a darned hurry to get us out of there, they would quit destroying the infrastructure that they need to be independent. Not to mention that France and the U.N. stole billions from the Food-for-Oil program that was supposed to help out the Iraqiis and reduce our expenses. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,991 #13 November 18, 2004 >You would think if they're such a darned hurry to get us out of there, they >would quit destroying the infrastructure that they need to be independent. I think they see the pipelines as benefiting the US, and do not want Iraq to be benefiting the US. Same reason they're attacking Iraqi police stations. >Not to mention that France and the U.N. stole billions from the > Food-for-Oil program that was supposed to help out the Iraqiis and > reduce our expenses. As did Halliburton. Heck, they're _still_ doing it; they're one reason the war is costing as much as it is. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SpeedRacer 1 #14 November 18, 2004 there are different elements to the insurgents. Zarqawi's gang doesn't give a shit about Iraq. They'd blow up the whole country if they could take the Americans with it. They're not fighting for Iraq, otherwise, why did they kill those 300 Iraqi Shiites at that mosque during that big celebration last January? Zarqawi has pretty much admitted that he wants to have Sunni & Shiite Iraqis kill one another so as to spread as much chaos as possible, hoping that 1) the USA will give up & go home and (most probably) 2) they can install another dictator by saying that he will be the only one who can restore order. Speed Racer -------------------------------------------------- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,027 #15 November 19, 2004 QuoteQuote"Grateful" insurgents keep blowing up the pipelines. You would think if they're such a darned hurry to get us out of there, they would quit destroying the infrastructure that they need to be independent. Not to mention that France and the U.N. stole billions from the Food-for-Oil program that was supposed to help out the Iraqiis and reduce our expenses. Oh no - France played the US for a sucker AGAIN!... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frenchy68 0 #16 November 19, 2004 QuoteNot to mention that France and the U.N. stole billions from the Food-for-Oil program that was supposed to help out the Iraqiis and reduce our expenses. Oooops! I got awaken again! Those darn French, source of all the ill of humanity... "For once you have tasted Absinthe you will walk the earth with your eyes turned towards the gutter, for there you have been and there you will long to return." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gawain 0 #17 November 19, 2004 QuoteQuoteNot to mention that France and the U.N. stole billions from the Food-for-Oil program that was supposed to help out the Iraqiis and reduce our expenses. Oooops! I got awaken again! Those darn French, source of all the ill of humanity... I know what you mean, despite this though, the United States' relationship with France has been pretty disastrous when looked at as a whole. I won't lay blame squarely on any single thing, but it's amazing we even have diplomatic relations with each other.So I try and I scream and I beg and I sigh Just to prove I'm alive, and it's alright 'Cause tonight there's a way I'll make light of my treacherous life Make light! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lawrocket 3 #18 November 19, 2004 Quote Why isn't Iraq paying for the war? Oh, they're paying, all right... My wife is hotter than your wife. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frenchy68 0 #19 November 19, 2004 QuoteI know what you mean, despite this though, the United States' relationship with France has been pretty disastrous when looked at as a whole. I won't lay blame squarely on any single thing, but it's amazing we even have diplomatic relations with each other. However, I think people would be surprised as to how closely the US and France are working on terrorism and exchanging information when it comes to terrorism. I think at the moment, when it comes to "show", both the US and French administrations will hold their ground. However, when it comes to what really matters (and can be dealt behind close doors), there is quite a bit of cooperation going on. "For once you have tasted Absinthe you will walk the earth with your eyes turned towards the gutter, for there you have been and there you will long to return." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #20 November 19, 2004 QuoteHowever, hten it comes to what really matters (and can be dealt behind close doors), there is quite a bit of cooperation going on. You are willing to go behind closed doors with the French? Brave man. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nacmacfeegle 0 #21 November 19, 2004 I need to find the link, but Bush said at one point that the war would not be paid for by Iraq. And we all know he is a man of his word.-------------------- He who receives an idea from me, receives instruction himself without lessening mine; as he who lights his taper at mine, receives light without darkening me. Thomas Jefferson Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mr2mk1g 10 #22 November 19, 2004 QuoteNot to mention that France and the U.N. stole billions from the Food-for-Oil program that was supposed to help out the Iraqiis and reduce our expenses. um... as did US companies and individuals - as I keep pointing out though we don't know who they were as the blessed CIA blanked out their names from the report before it was published. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
