free_man 0 #1 November 20, 2004 CAVEAT: The following information may be hazzardous to your government programing, if you can not fathom the information exit here. URGENT ALERT: VOTE COMING ON FORCED MENTAL HEALTH SCREENING By: Devvy November19, 2004 NewsWithViews.com "Of liberty I would say that, in the whole plenitude of its extent, it is unobstructed action according to our will. But rightful liberty is unobstructed action according to our will within limits drawn around us by the equal rights of others. I do not add 'within the limits of the law,' because law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual." --Thomas Jefferson to Isaac H. Tiffany, 1819 Congressman Ron Paul is attempting to include language in another massive government spending bill that would require parental notification regarding Bush's attempt to force mental health screening on all children in this country. Paul's earlier attempts to insert a stop measure into the Labor, HHS and Education Appropriations Act failed. No surprise there. If this dangerous provision in that bill passes, it will be because the Republicans didn't stop it and a Republican president will sign it into law. The vote on this could come by this weekend. It is important to remember that some members of Congress who will vote on this insidious legislation, also own stock in the very pharmaceutical companies that will reap millions of dollars destroying the minds of America's children through forced medicating. A list of these congressional members can be found here. Even the the Association of American Physicians and Surgeons warned the public just a week ago that universal psychiatric screening and drugging of children is "a dangerous scheme that will heap even more coercive pressure on parents to medicate children with potentially dangerous side effects." There is an underlying agenda behind Bush's so-called 'New Freedom Commission on Mental Health' to "identify policies that could be implemented by Federal, State and local governments to promote successful community integration for adults with a serious mental illness and children with a serious emotional disturbance." This forced mental health screening will eventually be extended to adults - an exact replica of Communist Russia, straight from the Communist Manual of Instruction of Psychological Warfare. In the summary section of this "New Freedom" Commission on Mental Health, the summary states, "The State plan will include consumers and families and will create a new partnership among the Federal, State and local governments." The big carrot: federal money that will create new jobs - the same trap Americans have been diving into for the past decade as jobs in America's most important sectors (ag, manufacturing, industrial) have been shipped to foreign countries. While the quote below will be a most unwelcome one for those still celebrating Bush's reelection and a "Republican sweep" in Congress, Americans must open their eyes to the bigger picture and evaluate what is coming out of Washington, DC. The author of The Great Communitarian Hoax, Jeri Lynn Ball, is one of the most knowledgeable experts in this country on how America is being subverted in such a clever, diabolical and systematic way, that our people hardly know what's happening to them and their families - until it's too late. As Jeri points out regarding this gigantic step to crush those of us and our children who refuse to bow down to the new world order being pushed upon us by both parties in Washington, DC, "The real cause of mental disorders in this country is the communitarian attack on principled individualism and the massive indoctrination of Americans with the altruist-collectivst principles of the Communist morality including selflessness and the sense of community. Communitarian administrations, including Bush, have adopted the Russian system of forcing consumers to have primary care providers, who will of course be trained to provide "appropriate" treatment for "mental health problems." According to the Communist Manual, all doctors, psychiatrists, and community health workers will bet trained in Marxist-Lenin Communist doctrine and will monitor their patents' thoughts and effectively work to prevent outbreaks of dissent or rebellion." It easy to scoff at such a statement unless you have read all of her thoroughly researched books as well as other talented writers like Mary Starrett who have written on this issue. This type of research does require an enormous amount of time - something most Americans simply aren't interested in doing when they can get their 15-second sound bites from Rather, Brokaw, et al. Others who genuinely do care are buried with familial responsibilities which is also part of the brilliant, evil plan to enslave America: keep both parents chasing to put food on the table so they have little time to study the events which directly affect their lives. Unconstitutional Ron Paul may feel the best he can do is attempt to get parental notification, but I say no more band aids. The only question that should be addressed here is this: Where does the U.S. Constitution, specifically Art. 1, Sec. 8 authorize Congress to legislate that all children in America be forced to undergo mental health screening or testing? Simply put, there isn't any authority. The "general welfare" clause of the Constitution can't be used. This quote is from the general welfare clause link: "The Anti-Federalists still weren't satisfied. Hamilton and Madison came back to re-state that if the general welfare clause conveyed absolute power to the government, why would they go on to list the specific powers they were going to grant the government? That wouldn't make any sense at all if they were going to give absolute power to this government. It was finally conceded by all at the convention that the general welfare clause conveyed absolutely no power to the government." In other words, Congress is and always has been restricted to the areas specifically cited in Art. 1, Sec. 8. Forced mental health screening and/or testing for America's children flat out does not fall within their jurisdiction. Is there case law to back this up? Yes, in Lopez v US (1995) the U.S. Supreme Court said Congress overstepped its legislative authority when it passed a law regarding "gun free school zones." While that case was about guns, the basic argument is still the same: Congress doesn't have the authority to legislate outside Art. 1, Section 8, period. I'm certain there are dozens of cases that can be used to argue against this dangerous monster looming over America's parents. What can you do? First, call your federal house member and your counterfeit U.S. Senator and tell them that you will refuse to submit your child to any forced mental health screening. Tell them no. This land belongs to us. We the people. There can no longer be any hesitation on the part of the American people to stand up to these one world government advocates in Washington, DC. They are our servants and work for us. Yes, it is a bit scary for those who have never stood up to the federal machine before, but we must and we must do it together, unified. Second, Call the White House and politely tell the comment line that even if this Machiavellian plan becomes law, you will refuse to submit your child to any forced mental health testing, treatment or otherwise. Those members of my family who have children under 18 have already done this. Time is short, please do it today. Even if the vote doesn't happen this week, it will happen - every phone call will count. White House numbers: Comments: 202-456-1111; Switchboard: 202-456-1414; Fax: 202-456-2461; E-Mail: President George W. Bush: president@whitehouse.gov Third: If you belong to fine organizations like Concerned Women of America, contact their leadership and ask them to use the power of the Internet to get their members to begin flooding Congress and the White house with calls, all conveying the same message: under no circumstances will you submit your child to any forced government mental health screening, treatments or programs. There are roughly 30,000 citizens groups in this country which represent tens of millions of adults. The roar heard by Washington, DC on this effort must be so massive, that Bush's master plan (New Freedom Commission on Mental Health) is crushed. The other important action everyone can take is to financially support those public interest law firms that will most likely be the ones to fight a case brought by a parent who refuses to submit their child to this forced testing. Should the Republican controlled Congress pass this dangerous legislation (which Bush will sign it into law in a NY second), make no mistake: they will move on your children and grand children before the ink dries. Bush signed the Executive Order to set up this mental health commision back in April 2002, so they've had plenty of time to lay the groundwork and get ready - all they need is Congress to pass the legislation. This is one of the most important fights we face and those parents who refuse will need legal representation. As my daughter is 29, it doesn't affect me, but I am making my financial donation to the Thomas Moore Law Center because this is a righteous fight. It is a fight to stop the federal machine from taking control of America's children and reshaping their minds through drugs and propaganda. Thank you. © 2004 Devvy Kidd - All Rights Reserved 10 Planks of the Communist Manifesto- http://www.wealth4freedom.com/10Planks.html 45 goals of communism from"The Naked Communist" http://www.worldnewsstand.net/history/Communist_Goals.htm The liberties of our country, the freedom of our civil Constitution, are worth defending at all hazards; and it is our duty to defend them against all attacks. We have received them as a fair inheritance from our worthy ancestors: they purchased them for us with toil and danger and expense of treasure and blood, and transmitted them to us with care and diligence. It will bring an everlasting mark of infamy on the present generation, enlightened as it is, if we should suffer them to be wrested from us by violence without a struggle, or to be cheated out of them by the artifices of false and designing men. -- Samuel Adams This is posted to inform and bring awareness to what has and is happening to America. And hopefully to encourage intelligent discussion. This is not posted to incite controversy or cause offense. If it does, ask yourself why you feel it does, and search for the answer. PEACE “…because I hope you know this, I think you do…all governments are lying cocksuckers.” Bill Hicks, Relentless Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest #2 November 20, 2004 Very, very wordy, but no bill number - why? And no, I'm not going to look for it. You went to all the trouble to post that information here - you go get it. Be sure to bring it back via Black Helicopter. mh . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
free_man 0 #3 November 20, 2004 Black helicopter delivery! House Bill 3063 Liberty Committee http://www.thelibertycommittee.org/screeningkidsbackground.htm EO http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2002/04/20020429-2.html http://www.mentalhealthcommission.gov/ http://www.antidepressantsfacts.com/protect-your-children.htm http://psychrights.org/Drugs/AllenJonesTMAPJanuary20.pdf PEACE “…because I hope you know this, I think you do…all governments are lying cocksuckers.” Bill Hicks, Relentless Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyrad 0 #4 November 20, 2004 Mate, you ever thought of taking up skydiving?When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MC208B 0 #5 November 20, 2004 Please summarize these long winded posts of yours and include links, I might actually take the time to read them then Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnRich 4 #6 November 20, 2004 Quote...Bush's attempt to force mental health screening on all children in this country... members of Congress who will vote on this insidious legislation, also own stock in the very pharmaceutical companies that will reap millions of dollars destroying the minds of America's children through forced medicating... The Bill is about *screening*. You took a giant leap going from screening, to "forced medication". I don't see anything in the Bill about forced medication, or medication without parental consent. Children's Mental Health Screening and Prevention Act of 2003 Quotes: "Scientific research has demonstrated that early identification and treatment of mental disorders in youth greatly improves a child or adolescent's prognosis throughout his or her lifetime." "identify a method for obtaining written consent from the parent or legal guardian of any minor participating in the demonstration project" "to work with the parents or guardians of youth with symptoms or indicators for mental illness, suicidal ideation, or suicide attempts to help them understand the youth's outcome and treatment options" That seems like a good thing to me, done with the complete consent of parents - no one is being forced to do anything. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest #7 November 21, 2004 I think the point being made is that there is an enormous potential for abuse of the system, which already has a poor respect for parental and family rights (unless, of course, the parents are homosexuals). From the Hacker's Dictionary: "Many hackers have noticed that mainstream culture has shown a tendency to pathologize and medicalize normal variations in personality, especially those variations that make life more complicated for authority figures and conformists. Thus, hackers aware of the issue tend to be among those questioning whether ADD and AS actually exist; and if so whether they are really ‘diseases’ rather than extremes of a normal genetic variation like having freckles or being able to taste DPT. In either case, they have a sneaking tendency to wonder if these syndromes are over-diagnosed and over-treated. After all, people in authority will always be inconvenienced by schoolchildren or workers or citizens who are prickly, intelligent individualists — thus, any social system that depends on authority relationships will tend to helpfully ostracize and therapize and drug such ‘abnormal’ people until they are properly docile and stupid and ‘well-socialized’." (All emphasis mine). mh . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lawrocket 3 #8 November 22, 2004 John, don't you think this may be just a first step? What's the point of a "screening" without some action afterwards? My wife is hotter than your wife. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnRich 4 #9 November 22, 2004 QuoteJohn, don't you think this may be just a first step? What's the point of a "screening" without some action afterwards? The purpose would simply be to identify kids that may need help, and to let the parents know what resources are available to them to solve the problem. It does not mean that the government intends to medicate kids without parental consent. They'd get their asses sued off if they ever tried that. Story time: One of my brothers was born with dyslexia, but nobody knew it, and he was a low performer in elementary school. The school principal thought that he might be retarded, and wanted to send him to an "alternate" school. Mom stood up for him, and got him diagnosed, and then special training to learn how to deal with the dyslexia. He ended up with a five-year college degree in architecture, and has a successful business career. I shudder to think how many smart kids there might be out there like my brother, whose problems don't get detected soon enough... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhillyKev 0 #10 November 22, 2004 Warning...post too long to garner interest. moving on.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites