SkyDekker 1,465 #26 December 9, 2004 QuoteThe gun with the short barrel didn't kill anyone. Federal agents killed his son and wife because he owned a gun that was too short. I know. statements are very similar though. I am pretty sure those federal agents did not walk up to him and said, barrel is to short we will now execute your wife and child. I am sure it was his actions and the actions of the federal agents that led to the outcome. It is the pro-gun crowd that keeps yelling that it is not the object but the actions. Not the guns but the people..... hence, still an odd statement coming from some one so deep into the pro-gun issue. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhillyKev 0 #27 December 9, 2004 You're drawing some kind of conclusion that I'm just not seeing. The agents killed his wife and son. He didn't say a gun killed them. The agents were there because of the existence of a gun. It had nothing else to do with that situation. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #28 December 9, 2004 Quotean inch too short on a barrel got his wife and son assassinated. I know what he meant by the statement. But taken literally he is blaming the rifle for the death. More precisely the length of the barrel. The reasoning is that if the barrel had one more inch the agents would not have been on him and his wife and son would still be alive. same reasoning as saying that gun homocide would not have taken place if the gun had not been available. usually the reply to that argument is: guns don't kill people, people kill people. sorry if you don't see the irony. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #29 December 9, 2004 QuoteHow much more difficult can 4" of barrel be? *shrug* Ask your wife... The way I look at it is that the operators that get down and dirty in the CQB environment stick to shorter barrels...since they have a lot more experience and training then I have, I'll bow to their expertise.--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites