chips26 4 #1 June 27, 2016 Looking at getting some paintball smoke to use on some track dives here for one of our big turbine events coming up. Specifically looking at the Enola Gaye brand of cold burn paintball smoke, anyone have any experience with this brand? Any special dyes to worry about staining my jumpsuit? Does it show up well in freefall? Any and all comments appreciated. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
justme12001 0 #2 June 27, 2016 Yes, they work pretty well. The EG18X will be your best bet for free fall, the EG18 work well under canopy. They produce the same amount of smoke, but the X does it in 45 sec versus 90 sec. Not sure about dyes and the such for the jumpsuits. Some guys I know just used them this past weekend, pretty sure they used the EG18X. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rSbDbsbAHa8&feature=youtu.be Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
piisfish 140 #3 June 27, 2016 If you jump smoke, jump with gear you don't mind changing colours.scissors beat paper, paper beat rock, rock beat wingsuit - KarlM Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
monkycndo 0 #4 June 27, 2016 Make sure your smoke bracket has a cut away system that you can release from your foot with some sort of lanyard. You never want to drop anything over a populated area. A good smoke bracket has a release that drops the bracket away from your foot in case of a burn through, but keeps it attached to you. If you need to jettison the entire bracket due to an entanglement with your canopy, the cut away should be able to do that as well. Most brackets I have seen and maybe even used, did not do as describe above.50 donations so far. Give it a try. You know you want to spank it Jump an Infinity Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DougH 270 #5 June 28, 2016 Do you have a recommendation for one that fits that bill?"The restraining order says you're only allowed to touch me in freefall" =P Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
justme12001 0 #6 June 28, 2016 I am all for a cutaway system on the bracket! But the smokes he is looking at are "cold". They do get warm, but do not get hot and don't shoot out flames and sparks like the military M18s do. You can hold these in your hand while they are smoking. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
monkycndo 0 #7 June 28, 2016 Doug, I have been tinkering with a bracket for a while. I am still refining the two stage cut away. Pulling the lanyard releases the bracket from the foot and drops it still hanging from a safety strap. A second pull releases the safety strap. If you want to jettison bracket and safety strap in one shot, a really hard pull does both. Been busy with other stuff, so the project has been sitting there. Danny, I haven't had a chance to use the EG smoke yet. But if I build a bracket for someone else, I don't know how it will be used. Common standard white skydiver smoke burns hot enough to produce slag. I want to make sure the user has the safety features included in the case they use a hot type smoke with the possible problems they might encounter.50 donations so far. Give it a try. You know you want to spank it Jump an Infinity Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
riggerrob 643 #8 June 29, 2016 How many seconds do "paint ball" grenades "smoke?" Are they the same diameter as military M-18? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
justme12001 0 #9 June 29, 2016 It depends of what type you get. Enola Gaye has come out with several variation recently. Their first ones weren't very good for skydiving and were smaller than the M18s. They have three fairly new ones, the EG18, EG18X, and the burst. The two EGs are the same size as an M18. All three put out about the same amount of smoke as an M18 as well. The EG18 burns about 90 secs, the EG18x burns about 45 secs and the burst only burns for about 20 secs. The burst is smaller than the EGs as well. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites