ScottishJohn 25 #26 December 13, 2004 Quote So, when she watches Star Trek does she also think Klingons really exist? LOL, stop it your cracking me up. Instead of having people wearing costumes of being naked (does that sound wrong ) it would have been easier to just have naked guys doing the ceremony and put out a warning by the television companies. I can understand parents trying to protect their children from porn, but there is a big difference between nudity and porn.---------------------------------------------------------------------- If you think my attitude stinks you should smell my fingers Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron 10 #27 December 13, 2004 QuoteYou're right, but not because I'm ashamed of the pic, but rather cause some dumbass would sue me for sexual harassment. Now you know why it is an issue. I could get in trouble for that pic if I was looking at it at work...I also could get in trouble for the violent things that are posted on here. So what do I do? I close my office door before I open these things. That way free speach is still allowed, but people who do not want to se it don't have to. I also reduce the companies and my personal liability. I also can't say "fuck you" at work. I can't watch porn, or hard core rap."No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron 10 #28 December 13, 2004 QuoteI can understand parents trying to protect their children from porn, but there is a big difference between nudity and porn. Who should decide what is porn? You for them, or them for their children? I have said on here several times that I could not give a rats ass what is on TV...AS LONG AS PARENTS HAVE THE CHANCE TO CENSOR THEIR CHILDREN. Just like Janets Boob...I could not care for myself, but I have friends with kids that were quite pissed...And that is their right to be pissed. Now if they come to me and tell me they rented an X rated movie and watched it with their kids and they were upset at some nudity...I call them stupid."No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhillyKev 0 #29 December 13, 2004 You're making complete and total sense, Ron. The point is that the FCC is trying to mandate what is available, not make it easier for you to censor your children or workplace based on your personal views. That is wrong. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #30 December 13, 2004 QuoteThe costumes depict a naked man. No it doesn't, the costume depicts an ancient statue. If you truly think people can not see the difference between an ancient statue and porn I refer back to my original statement: You guys are fucked. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
434 2 #31 December 13, 2004 I just feel sorry for you guys! Makes me really sad when in my hole life learned and thought USA was the free country we admired in the hole world! Unfortunately I discovered a whole other story from I first visited USA when I was 17, and later spending my winters in Florida! There is alot of good things there as well, but some things makes me wonder! And when it comes to Janet, it was just stupid, and humiliating for her! And the kids wiewing a slappy tit like what they was raised on, should harm them! I think there is the parents who harm their kids learning to feel sick, imbarresd of wiewing some skin and a slappy tit! Wonder why the plastic industry is doing so good Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ScottishJohn 25 #32 December 13, 2004 QuoteWho should decide what is porn? You for them, or them for their children? I read this line a couple of times before I understood what I Thought you ment. Yes , parents should have the right to monitor / censor what their children watch on TV. Thats why I said there should be a warning before transmission. (I think I did say that) Most kids these days have their own TV in their bedroom where they can watch what ever they want without parental control.---------------------------------------------------------------------- If you think my attitude stinks you should smell my fingers Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhillyKev 0 #33 December 13, 2004 QuoteMost kids these days have their own TV in their bedroom where they can watch what ever they want without parental control. V Chip. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #34 December 13, 2004 To be fair, I seriously doubt anything from an Olympics broadcast would have had a V-chip rating higher than "TV G". http://www.familysafemedia.com/tv_guidelines.htmlquade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ScottishJohn 25 #35 December 13, 2004 Is that a USA thing. I don't think or have never heard of it being used in the UK. We all have things that are sensored from public transmission. It just seems to ME that the USA have taken their eye of the important isses of what is natural and what is offensive.---------------------------------------------------------------------- If you think my attitude stinks you should smell my fingers Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #36 December 13, 2004 Yes, it's a U.S. thing. http://www.fcc.gov/vchip/ BTW, when the guidlines say; Quote TV-MA (Mature Audience Only -- This program is specifically designed to be viewed by adults and therefore may be unsuitable for children under 17.) This program contains one or more of the following: graphic violence (V), explicit sexual activity (S), or crude indecent language (L). This does mean you will probably see lots of blood and dismemberments, but the "explicit sexual activity" will actually be implicit sexual activity and you still will NOT see anything would normally be covered up by a bathing suit. The "crude indecent language" probably doesn't rise to the level of what you'd hear at a church softball game. Certainly doesn't rise to the level of what you'd hear at a normal drop zone.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CornishChris 5 #37 December 13, 2004 It comes down to this bizarre situation where people seem to be happy that their kids watch shows with endless murders, gun fights etc. but get scared when a tit is shown. Ron's comment aboput friends of his being pissed when JJ's tit came out is interesting. Of course they have a right to be pissed, the question is why in the hell would they be pissed in the first place. I can understand the parentstv mob getting stressed about shows with loose depictions of lost teenage virginities etc. but the showing of a breast, something which half the population have two of, is not something to get stressed about. In the UK & Europe there are topless women on many beaches in the summer, it's no big thing. People are comfortable with the naked human form, as I think they should be. Yes parents have the right to censor what their kids watch on TV, no arguments there, but why has the US got to a stage where it feels the need to with nudity, I'm not talking porn but just nudity? That to me is the more underlying issue. CJP Gods don't kill people. People with Gods kill people Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,077 #38 December 13, 2004 >Of course they have a right to be pissed, the question is why in the >hell would they be pissed in the first place. Because they have a list of things to be offended by, and that was on the list. A great many people searched high and low for that picture on the Internet (one of the top-20 searches of all times) found it, and became more offended. Then they looked for a blowup of it - and became even more offended. Some people simply need a cause. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dbattman 0 #39 December 14, 2004 /me wipes tears away Oh my. That just made my day. Truly we passed the edge along time ago. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #40 December 14, 2004 QuoteV Chip. ahh yes, another wonderful device that makes sure parents don't have to spend time with their children. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron 10 #41 December 14, 2004 QuoteYou're making complete and total sense, Ron. The point is that the FCC is trying to mandate what is available, not make it easier for you to censor your children or workplace based on your personal views. That is wrong. The FCC is only trying to mandate what is available for FREE on public airwaves. You can order cable and watch whatever you want to watch. I like the idea of the government staying out of families rights to raise their children how they want. My parents let me drink wine at dinner. My parents decided when they would let me watch R rated movies. They had the ability to control WHEN I saw R rated material because it was not on ABC or CBS. Back then they had to be rented or seen on HBO. My parents did not get us cable until they thought we were ready for it. If it was available on any TV they would not have been able to control WHEN."No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron 10 #42 December 14, 2004 QuoteNo it doesn't, the costume depicts an ancient statue. If you truly think people can not see the difference between an ancient statue and porn I refer back to my original statement: You guys are fucked. If you can't see how a walking/talking/naked costume of an ancient statue could be seen as a naked guy... Well I think you have issues. My assistant thought it was a bunch of naked guys painted up. Pretend violence or sex will get a movie an R rating."No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,107 #43 December 14, 2004 I hope the parents who object to nudity don't take their kids to museums or anything nasty like that.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron 10 #44 December 14, 2004 QuoteThats why I said there should be a warning before transmission. (I think I did say that) Most kids these days have their own TV in their bedroom where they can watch what ever they want without parental control. If kids have their own TV in their room, what does the warning do? Now if its on cable the parents can have the cable on the TV in the living room and not in the kids rooms. But if its on CBS, then the parents don't have that ability."No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pajarito 0 #45 December 14, 2004 QuoteIt comes down to this bizarre situation where people seem to be happy that their kids watch shows with endless murders, gun fights etc. The best one I ever saw was in the movie "Heat" (1995) starring Al Pacino, Robert De Niro, Val Kilmer, Jon Voight, Tom Sizemore, and Diane Venora. That was one hellava street firefight scene! Heat Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhillyKev 0 #46 December 14, 2004 QuoteThe FCC is only trying to mandate what is available for FREE on public airwaves. You can order cable and watch whatever you want to watch. So, freedom of speech and expression and the ability to make choices on your own is reserved to those wealthy enough to do so? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhillyKev 0 #47 December 14, 2004 QuoteBut if its on CBS, then the parents don't have that ability. How about not putting a TV in their bedroom if you're worried about it? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pajarito 0 #48 December 14, 2004 QuoteMY IDEA INVOLVES MIDGETS AND PORN (I WILL GIVE MORE INFORMATION UPON REQUEST) How bout it? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron 10 #49 December 14, 2004 QuoteSo, freedom of speech and expression and the ability to make choices on your own is reserved to those wealthy enough to do so? Quit trying to play the bullshit economic card. I knew plenty of poor kids that had cable in the house and are on welfare."No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron 10 #50 December 14, 2004 QuoteHow about not putting a TV in their bedroom if you're worried about it? Great idea. I didn't have one in my room."No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
