Ron 10 #51 December 20, 2004 QuoteOr, more likely, it has something to do with terrorism substantially increasing worldwide since Shrub decided to play arrogant cowboy. Yeah, he is responsable for 30 YEARS of terrorism. They keep pushing and their Government folds and allows it...Thereby encouraging it."No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,026 #52 December 20, 2004 QuoteQuoteHow many Germans would really be concerned with which candidate Americans think is best in a German election? RIght, just about zero. Is that a problem? If not, why would it be a problem if Americans don't really worry about what another country's citizens think of US candidates in US elections? I'm going to try and take the high road on this one and wait for the rerun in SC. R.I.P. You just want to avoid invoking Godwin's Law!... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BIGUN 1,298 #53 December 20, 2004 QuoteSometimes, I'm embarrassed to be an American. See.. and therein lies the problem. At what point did we become a nation embarrassed to be not only the most powerful nation on the planet, but also the most giving. Not just in terms of dollars, but in terms of human sacrifice so that others could be free. Are you embarrased that this nation has sacrificed hundreds of thousands of its sons to free ALL of Europe during WWII, embarrassed that we continually give money and effort to nations that have been engulfed in civil or economic strife. Are you embarrassed to be a citizen of a country that is the leading forefront on the establishment of democratic principles when other regimes have failed. You embarrassed because we freed a country from a dictatorship, female bondage, slavery, no civil rights and genocide? Stop being embarrassed America. Stand proud. Walk with your head held high. Afghanistan recently held their first election in how many years? In the coming months, Iraq will hold the first elections in over 30 years. Is it perfect. - no... but is it better than what they had? Let's ask the women of these countries if they do not cherish the "opportunity" to get an education, the "opportunity" to vote, the "opportunity" to be more than second rate slaves. You can be embarrassed if you want. I for one... am not embarrassed about this country , it's policies, it's leadership, nor it's actions. And, I still don't care what other effeminate countries have to "feel" about it.Nobody has time to listen; because they're desperately chasing the need of being heard. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RoadRash 0 #54 December 20, 2004 QuoteSometimes, I'm embarrassed to be an American. That's nice...move to Canada... ~R+R...Be embarassed up there...~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~ Fly the friendly skies...^_^...})ii({...^_~... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RoadRash 0 #55 December 20, 2004 QuoteQuoteQuoteEvery country has its history, but just in Spain, we have had to deal recently with a devastating civil war, 20 years of dictatorship, 30 years of terrorism that has just gotten worse. You're right. Your way is much better. Good one...... QuoteWe don´t start wars, we don´t like sending our kids to get killed, and we don´t certainly enjoy when they come home crippled and sick, just to forget about them when the war is over. I don't like getting my "kids" killed, sick or crippled...Nor enjoy seeing the ravages of war... Quote Vietnam 2 (Sorry, Iraq) I suppose this is supposed to be a lame apology to a regime that gassed thousands of innocent people and tortured thousands of others...... QuoteRemember, that within four years, Bush will be no longer in office, he will be celebrating parties with his rich cronnies while you will still be watching your people die in Irak. It's IRAQ...I-R-A-Q...and no...hopefully we will be out of I-R-A-Q and if all goes well, out of the region all together...I'd prefer if we removed all of our bases from Europe and the next time Europeans need to have their tale removed from the fire we tell them to piss off...but that is just my opinion... Every country in Europe has it's problems...however, I find it humorous that they believe their governments to be less corrupt and more diplomatic......I suppose we could do as France does...make more illegal weapons sales that we find being used to kill our own citizens... I also find it humorous that you said this... QuoteWe don´t start wars I believe your country's history would say otherwise...oh, how convenient it is to forget history...and make blanket statements... ~R+R...~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~ Fly the friendly skies...^_^...})ii({...^_~... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites shropshire 0 #56 December 20, 2004 Quote Sometimes, I'm embarrassed to be an American. Why? What's to be embarrassed about? All countries have arseholes - yours has no more or less than any other and you cann't personnally change that. Just be the best person that you can be - that's all any of us can ask. Blue Ones Tony (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jcd11235 0 #57 December 20, 2004 QuoteSee.. and therein lies the problem. At what point did we become a nation embarrassed to be not only the most powerful nation on the planet, but also the most giving. Not just in terms of dollars, but in terms of human sacrifice so that others could be free. Our contributions are quite low, as a function of GNP, Lower than most other countries. And the idea we made the most significant human sacrifice is plain wrong. QuoteAre you embarrased that this nation has sacrificed hundreds of thousands of its sons to free ALL of Europe during WWII This is an arrogant, uninformed claim. We didn't enter WWII until after most of the work had been done and most of the human sacrafice had already been made. We didn't save the world during WWII. QuoteStop being embarrassed America. Stand proud. Walk with your head held high. Afghanistan recently held their first election in how many years? I have to admit, I do wonder what it would be like to have free elections. QuoteLet's ask the women of these countries if they do not cherish the "opportunity" to get an education, the "opportunity" to vote, the "opportunity" to be more than second rate slaves. Or, you could ask the women in this country if they enjoy things like glass ceilings or lower salaries. QuoteYou can be embarrassed if you want. I for one... am not embarrassed about this country , it's policies, it's leadership, nor it's actions. As an informed citizen, I am quite embarrassed by my governments actions, and justfiably so.Math tutoring available. Only $6! per hour! First lesson: Factorials! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites RoadRash 0 #58 December 20, 2004 QuoteQuote Sometimes, I'm embarrassed to be an American. Why? What's to be embarrassed about? All countries have arseholes - yours has no more or less than any other and you cann't personnally change that. Just be the best person that you can be - that's all any of us can ask. Blue Ones Tony Holy crap...!!!!!!!!! That is the most common sense approach I have heard in eons...thank you!!!!!!!!!!!! BRAVO!!!!!!!!! ~R+R...WoW...that was the best post I have read all day...sad, but true...~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~ Fly the friendly skies...^_^...})ii({...^_~... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites slug 1 #59 December 20, 2004 QuoteQuoteQuoteHow many Germans would really be concerned with which candidate Americans think is best in a German election? RIght, just about zero. Is that a problem? If not, why would it be a problem if Americans don't really worry about what another country's citizens think of US candidates in US elections? I'm going to try and take the high road on this one and wait for the rerun in SC. R.I.P. You just want to avoid invoking Godwin's Law! Go figure The thread did get switched to SC. Everyones doing a good job without my 2 cents. Now that we're dealing with folks from all over the world I'll take the low road and just lurk this one. I've already voiced my opinion on our foreign policy over the last 50 yr's that got us to where we are today. R.I.P. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Vallerina 2 #60 December 20, 2004 QuoteAll countries have arseholes - yours has no more or less than any other No, I don't think that the average % of assholes per country is equal across the boards. It seems that Americans do tend to be more egocentric than other nations. So, when the ignorance that others accuse us of is blatant, it's a bit embarrassing.There's a thin line between Saturday night and Sunday morning Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites RoadRash 0 #61 December 20, 2004 QuoteQuoteAll countries have arseholes - yours has no more or less than any other No, I don't think that the average % of assholes per country is equal across the boards. It seems that Americans do tend to be more egocentric than other nations. So, when the ignorance that others accuse us of is blatant, it's a bit embarrassing. Unfortunately, you have forced me to go anthropological on your ass...... It is called ETHNOCENTRISM...and we are no more guilty of it than the next country...like Canada...or France...or Germany... We tend to believe that our way is right or better...That our way of life is healthier, happier, more productive...each country is GUILTY of it...claiming that one is more so than another is actually laughable...... ~R+R......~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~ Fly the friendly skies...^_^...})ii({...^_~... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Vallerina 2 #62 December 20, 2004 QuoteIt is called ETHNOCENTRISM...and we are no more guilty of it than the next country...like Canada...or France...or Germany... Where's the proof of that? And, people here are a bit more EGOcentric...they think they are better than everyone else. Quoteclaiming that one is more so than another is actually laughable... It is just as laughable as saying "X is the best country in the world!!!"There's a thin line between Saturday night and Sunday morning Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites RoadRash 0 #63 December 20, 2004 QuoteQuoteIt is called ETHNOCENTRISM...and we are no more guilty of it than the next country...like Canada...or France...or Germany... Where's the proof of that? And, people here are a bit more EGOcentric...they think they are better than everyone else. Quoteclaiming that one is more so than another is actually laughable... It is just as laughable as saying "X is the best country in the world!!!" Read a book on ANTHROPOLOGY...trust me, it is everywhere...and prove to me that Americans from the US are more EGOcentric than Canadians... ~R+R...This is fun!...~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~ Fly the friendly skies...^_^...})ii({...^_~... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites billvon 2,990 #64 December 20, 2004 >I don't care who is charge in Canada, I don't care who is in charge >in Germany. It does not affect me. The person in charge of germany never affects america? Hmm. We made that mistake before. You also seem to care a great deal about who's in charge in Iraq. >I just don't give a shit about other governments since other >governments don't affect me. Yet you support the sacrifice of thousands of american lives, and tens of thousands of foreigners, to change another goverment to one of your liking. That means (in any reasonable definition of the word) that you care about other governments. Wouldn't it be wise to care about them before we kill so many people? >You claim we don't understand your country....What makes you think you understand ours? Keep in mind that there are many people in the world who do not share your "I don't give a shit about other countries" attitude. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Vallerina 2 #65 December 20, 2004 QuoteRead a book on ANTHROPOLOGY...trust me, it is everywhere...and prove to me that Americans from the US are more EGOcentric than Canadians... I would just like to see a study comparing the US with other countries. Sure, jerks exist everywhere. The belief that Americans tend to be more ignorant than other nations is not off the wall, and it's proved here quite a bit.There's a thin line between Saturday night and Sunday morning Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites RoadRash 0 #66 December 20, 2004 QuoteQuoteRead a book on ANTHROPOLOGY...trust me, it is everywhere...and prove to me that Americans from the US are more EGOcentric than Canadians... I would just like to see a study comparing the US with other countries. Sure, jerks exist everywhere. The belief that Americans tend to be more ignorant than other nations is not off the wall, and it's proved here quite a bit. I am seeking numerical proof...like that of a study that states that Americans are more EGOcentric than say, Canada...otherwise...those are just blanket generalities...that are based on opinion, not fact... ~R+R...~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~ Fly the friendly skies...^_^...})ii({...^_~... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Vallerina 2 #67 December 20, 2004 QuoteI am seeking numerical proof... Uh...yeah, that's what I was wanting from you. QuoteAmericans are more EGOcentric than say, Canada Okay, let's search and see the % of Americans here that say, "America is the best country in the world," and then another search to see how many Canadians say, "Canada is the best country in the world!!!"There's a thin line between Saturday night and Sunday morning Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jcd11235 0 #68 December 20, 2004 QuoteI am seeking numerical proof...like that of a study that states that Americans are more EGOcentric than say, Canada...otherwise...those are just blanket generalities...that are based on opinion, not fact... I think "based on observation" would be a more appropriate description.Math tutoring available. Only $6! per hour! First lesson: Factorials! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites BIGUN 1,298 #69 December 20, 2004 QuoteOur contributions are quite low, as a function of GNP, Lower than most other countries. And the idea we made the most significant human sacrifice is plain wrong. Just in the commitment to the UN Global Fund, Of the 37 "most comfortably off" countries, the U.S. annual contribution commitment is over 10 billion OR 32.3% of the world's commitment. During WWII - France lost 200,000 soldiers, Hungary lost 147,000 men in combat, Bulgaria lost 19,000 in combat, Romania lost 73,000 in combat, Great Britain lost 264,000 soldiers, the United States lost 292,000 soldiers (5,000+ Marines in 24 hours on Iwo Jima), the Dutch lost 10,000 soldiers and 190,000 civilians, Australia lost 23,000 men in combat, Canada 37,000 soldiers, India lost 24,000 men in battle, New Zealand 10,000 and South Africa 6,000. During Vietnam; 58,000 During Operaton Desert Storm; 363 During Operaton Iraqi Freedom; COMBAT United States 1000+ Britain 60 Bulgaria 7 Denmark 1 El Salvador 1 Estonia 2 Hungary 1 Italy 19 Latvia 1 Netherlands 2 Poland 13 Slovakia 3 Spain 11 Thailand 2 Ukraine 9 POW 7 NON-COMBAT United States 272 Britain 32 Other nations 2Nobody has time to listen; because they're desperately chasing the need of being heard. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jcd11235 0 #70 December 20, 2004 Quote Just in the commitment to the UN Global Fund, Of the 37 "most comfortably off" countries, the U.S, annual contribution commitment is over 10 billion OR 32.3% of the world's commitment. As I said, figure that as a percentage of the country's wealth, and it becomes obvious we are not as generous as you would like to believe. QuoteDuring WWII - France lost 200,000 soldiers, Hungary lost 147,000 men in combat, Bulgaria lost 19,000 in combat, Romania lost 73,000 in combat, Great Britain lost 264,000 soldiers, the United States lost 292,000 soldiers, the Dutch lost 10,000 soldiers and 190,000 civilians, Australia lost 23,000 men in combat, Canada 37,000 soldiers, India lost 24,000 men in battle, New Zealand 10,000 and South Africa 6,000. Did you accidentally forget to count civilian casualties? If you examine them, you get the idea how small our human sacrifice was in WWII. Also, you seem to be forgetting about the civilian casualties in the conflicts in the Gulf.Math tutoring available. Only $6! per hour! First lesson: Factorials! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites RoadRash 0 #71 December 20, 2004 QuoteQuoteI am seeking numerical proof... Uh...yeah, that's what I was wanting from you. QuoteAmericans are more EGOcentric than say, Canada Okay, let's search and see the % of Americans here that say, "America is the best country in the world," and then another search to see how many Canadians say, "Canada is the best country in the world!!!" ...... ~R+R...~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~ Fly the friendly skies...^_^...})ii({...^_~... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites BIGUN 1,298 #72 December 20, 2004 QuoteAs I said, figure that as a percentage of the country's wealth, and it becomes obvious we are not as generous as you would like to believe. You're kidding me, right? That's just ONE commitment. And it's based on GDP. QuoteDid you accidentally forget to count civilian casualties? If you examine them, you get the idea how small our human sacrifice was in WWII. Not an accident - intent. Ya know, if a war is going on in your country, civilians are going to be a casualty. We'd be mixing apples and oranges on casualties of war in that country versus commitment in the aid of assisting that country with their war. The same as leaving off the 3,000+ killed in one day in NYC. I'm proud of this nation, it's history, it's people - of all creeds and cultures, its constitution of democracy and the constitution of its people. Each year, millions of immigrants seek refuge to become an American. They are proud to become American by choice. I feel sorry for those who are embarrassed or feel like they have to apologize for being American. Feel free not to be an American. I am done with this.Nobody has time to listen; because they're desperately chasing the need of being heard. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Vallerina 2 #73 December 20, 2004 QuoteI'm proud of this nation, it's history, Eek! I'm really not proud of its history!There's a thin line between Saturday night and Sunday morning Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Paulipod 0 #74 December 20, 2004 Having lived in both the US and the UK, I would have to say that my general perception is that Americans tend to be more nationalistic that Europeans.... More flag wavers etc, which in turn could add to the perception of 'we are best' Not saying that national pride doesnt exist everywhere - but it sure is strong in the US. Easy comparison.... Go for a drive, see how many flags you see on cars / buildings, do the same anywhere else... TADA - a numerical comparison Personally, I think both Europe and the US has alot of Pro's and Cons Bodyflight Bedford www.bodyflight.co.uk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites RoadRash 0 #75 December 20, 2004 QuoteMore flag wavers etc, which in turn could add to the perception of 'we are best' Not saying that national pride doesnt exist everywhere - but it sure is strong in the US. Which really wasn't the case until shortly after 9/11...when a breakout of American pride took place and the flag was being put on anything and everything... QuoteEasy comparison.... Go for a drive, see how many flags you see on cars / buildings, do the same anywhere else... TADA - a numerical comparison Ok, I thought that was funny......and true... QuotePersonally, I think both Europe and the US has alot of Pro's and Cons I agree...wholeheartedly...but the USA is home for me and I do take pride in it's history and it's principals... ~R+R...Good post man...thanks......~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~ Fly the friendly skies...^_^...})ii({...^_~... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 Next Page 3 of 9 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0
shropshire 0 #56 December 20, 2004 Quote Sometimes, I'm embarrassed to be an American. Why? What's to be embarrassed about? All countries have arseholes - yours has no more or less than any other and you cann't personnally change that. Just be the best person that you can be - that's all any of us can ask. Blue Ones Tony (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jcd11235 0 #57 December 20, 2004 QuoteSee.. and therein lies the problem. At what point did we become a nation embarrassed to be not only the most powerful nation on the planet, but also the most giving. Not just in terms of dollars, but in terms of human sacrifice so that others could be free. Our contributions are quite low, as a function of GNP, Lower than most other countries. And the idea we made the most significant human sacrifice is plain wrong. QuoteAre you embarrased that this nation has sacrificed hundreds of thousands of its sons to free ALL of Europe during WWII This is an arrogant, uninformed claim. We didn't enter WWII until after most of the work had been done and most of the human sacrafice had already been made. We didn't save the world during WWII. QuoteStop being embarrassed America. Stand proud. Walk with your head held high. Afghanistan recently held their first election in how many years? I have to admit, I do wonder what it would be like to have free elections. QuoteLet's ask the women of these countries if they do not cherish the "opportunity" to get an education, the "opportunity" to vote, the "opportunity" to be more than second rate slaves. Or, you could ask the women in this country if they enjoy things like glass ceilings or lower salaries. QuoteYou can be embarrassed if you want. I for one... am not embarrassed about this country , it's policies, it's leadership, nor it's actions. As an informed citizen, I am quite embarrassed by my governments actions, and justfiably so.Math tutoring available. Only $6! per hour! First lesson: Factorials! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RoadRash 0 #58 December 20, 2004 QuoteQuote Sometimes, I'm embarrassed to be an American. Why? What's to be embarrassed about? All countries have arseholes - yours has no more or less than any other and you cann't personnally change that. Just be the best person that you can be - that's all any of us can ask. Blue Ones Tony Holy crap...!!!!!!!!! That is the most common sense approach I have heard in eons...thank you!!!!!!!!!!!! BRAVO!!!!!!!!! ~R+R...WoW...that was the best post I have read all day...sad, but true...~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~ Fly the friendly skies...^_^...})ii({...^_~... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
slug 1 #59 December 20, 2004 QuoteQuoteQuoteHow many Germans would really be concerned with which candidate Americans think is best in a German election? RIght, just about zero. Is that a problem? If not, why would it be a problem if Americans don't really worry about what another country's citizens think of US candidates in US elections? I'm going to try and take the high road on this one and wait for the rerun in SC. R.I.P. You just want to avoid invoking Godwin's Law! Go figure The thread did get switched to SC. Everyones doing a good job without my 2 cents. Now that we're dealing with folks from all over the world I'll take the low road and just lurk this one. I've already voiced my opinion on our foreign policy over the last 50 yr's that got us to where we are today. R.I.P. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vallerina 2 #60 December 20, 2004 QuoteAll countries have arseholes - yours has no more or less than any other No, I don't think that the average % of assholes per country is equal across the boards. It seems that Americans do tend to be more egocentric than other nations. So, when the ignorance that others accuse us of is blatant, it's a bit embarrassing.There's a thin line between Saturday night and Sunday morning Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RoadRash 0 #61 December 20, 2004 QuoteQuoteAll countries have arseholes - yours has no more or less than any other No, I don't think that the average % of assholes per country is equal across the boards. It seems that Americans do tend to be more egocentric than other nations. So, when the ignorance that others accuse us of is blatant, it's a bit embarrassing. Unfortunately, you have forced me to go anthropological on your ass...... It is called ETHNOCENTRISM...and we are no more guilty of it than the next country...like Canada...or France...or Germany... We tend to believe that our way is right or better...That our way of life is healthier, happier, more productive...each country is GUILTY of it...claiming that one is more so than another is actually laughable...... ~R+R......~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~ Fly the friendly skies...^_^...})ii({...^_~... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vallerina 2 #62 December 20, 2004 QuoteIt is called ETHNOCENTRISM...and we are no more guilty of it than the next country...like Canada...or France...or Germany... Where's the proof of that? And, people here are a bit more EGOcentric...they think they are better than everyone else. Quoteclaiming that one is more so than another is actually laughable... It is just as laughable as saying "X is the best country in the world!!!"There's a thin line between Saturday night and Sunday morning Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RoadRash 0 #63 December 20, 2004 QuoteQuoteIt is called ETHNOCENTRISM...and we are no more guilty of it than the next country...like Canada...or France...or Germany... Where's the proof of that? And, people here are a bit more EGOcentric...they think they are better than everyone else. Quoteclaiming that one is more so than another is actually laughable... It is just as laughable as saying "X is the best country in the world!!!" Read a book on ANTHROPOLOGY...trust me, it is everywhere...and prove to me that Americans from the US are more EGOcentric than Canadians... ~R+R...This is fun!...~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~ Fly the friendly skies...^_^...})ii({...^_~... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,990 #64 December 20, 2004 >I don't care who is charge in Canada, I don't care who is in charge >in Germany. It does not affect me. The person in charge of germany never affects america? Hmm. We made that mistake before. You also seem to care a great deal about who's in charge in Iraq. >I just don't give a shit about other governments since other >governments don't affect me. Yet you support the sacrifice of thousands of american lives, and tens of thousands of foreigners, to change another goverment to one of your liking. That means (in any reasonable definition of the word) that you care about other governments. Wouldn't it be wise to care about them before we kill so many people? >You claim we don't understand your country....What makes you think you understand ours? Keep in mind that there are many people in the world who do not share your "I don't give a shit about other countries" attitude. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vallerina 2 #65 December 20, 2004 QuoteRead a book on ANTHROPOLOGY...trust me, it is everywhere...and prove to me that Americans from the US are more EGOcentric than Canadians... I would just like to see a study comparing the US with other countries. Sure, jerks exist everywhere. The belief that Americans tend to be more ignorant than other nations is not off the wall, and it's proved here quite a bit.There's a thin line between Saturday night and Sunday morning Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RoadRash 0 #66 December 20, 2004 QuoteQuoteRead a book on ANTHROPOLOGY...trust me, it is everywhere...and prove to me that Americans from the US are more EGOcentric than Canadians... I would just like to see a study comparing the US with other countries. Sure, jerks exist everywhere. The belief that Americans tend to be more ignorant than other nations is not off the wall, and it's proved here quite a bit. I am seeking numerical proof...like that of a study that states that Americans are more EGOcentric than say, Canada...otherwise...those are just blanket generalities...that are based on opinion, not fact... ~R+R...~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~ Fly the friendly skies...^_^...})ii({...^_~... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vallerina 2 #67 December 20, 2004 QuoteI am seeking numerical proof... Uh...yeah, that's what I was wanting from you. QuoteAmericans are more EGOcentric than say, Canada Okay, let's search and see the % of Americans here that say, "America is the best country in the world," and then another search to see how many Canadians say, "Canada is the best country in the world!!!"There's a thin line between Saturday night and Sunday morning Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jcd11235 0 #68 December 20, 2004 QuoteI am seeking numerical proof...like that of a study that states that Americans are more EGOcentric than say, Canada...otherwise...those are just blanket generalities...that are based on opinion, not fact... I think "based on observation" would be a more appropriate description.Math tutoring available. Only $6! per hour! First lesson: Factorials! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BIGUN 1,298 #69 December 20, 2004 QuoteOur contributions are quite low, as a function of GNP, Lower than most other countries. And the idea we made the most significant human sacrifice is plain wrong. Just in the commitment to the UN Global Fund, Of the 37 "most comfortably off" countries, the U.S. annual contribution commitment is over 10 billion OR 32.3% of the world's commitment. During WWII - France lost 200,000 soldiers, Hungary lost 147,000 men in combat, Bulgaria lost 19,000 in combat, Romania lost 73,000 in combat, Great Britain lost 264,000 soldiers, the United States lost 292,000 soldiers (5,000+ Marines in 24 hours on Iwo Jima), the Dutch lost 10,000 soldiers and 190,000 civilians, Australia lost 23,000 men in combat, Canada 37,000 soldiers, India lost 24,000 men in battle, New Zealand 10,000 and South Africa 6,000. During Vietnam; 58,000 During Operaton Desert Storm; 363 During Operaton Iraqi Freedom; COMBAT United States 1000+ Britain 60 Bulgaria 7 Denmark 1 El Salvador 1 Estonia 2 Hungary 1 Italy 19 Latvia 1 Netherlands 2 Poland 13 Slovakia 3 Spain 11 Thailand 2 Ukraine 9 POW 7 NON-COMBAT United States 272 Britain 32 Other nations 2Nobody has time to listen; because they're desperately chasing the need of being heard. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jcd11235 0 #70 December 20, 2004 Quote Just in the commitment to the UN Global Fund, Of the 37 "most comfortably off" countries, the U.S, annual contribution commitment is over 10 billion OR 32.3% of the world's commitment. As I said, figure that as a percentage of the country's wealth, and it becomes obvious we are not as generous as you would like to believe. QuoteDuring WWII - France lost 200,000 soldiers, Hungary lost 147,000 men in combat, Bulgaria lost 19,000 in combat, Romania lost 73,000 in combat, Great Britain lost 264,000 soldiers, the United States lost 292,000 soldiers, the Dutch lost 10,000 soldiers and 190,000 civilians, Australia lost 23,000 men in combat, Canada 37,000 soldiers, India lost 24,000 men in battle, New Zealand 10,000 and South Africa 6,000. Did you accidentally forget to count civilian casualties? If you examine them, you get the idea how small our human sacrifice was in WWII. Also, you seem to be forgetting about the civilian casualties in the conflicts in the Gulf.Math tutoring available. Only $6! per hour! First lesson: Factorials! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RoadRash 0 #71 December 20, 2004 QuoteQuoteI am seeking numerical proof... Uh...yeah, that's what I was wanting from you. QuoteAmericans are more EGOcentric than say, Canada Okay, let's search and see the % of Americans here that say, "America is the best country in the world," and then another search to see how many Canadians say, "Canada is the best country in the world!!!" ...... ~R+R...~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~ Fly the friendly skies...^_^...})ii({...^_~... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BIGUN 1,298 #72 December 20, 2004 QuoteAs I said, figure that as a percentage of the country's wealth, and it becomes obvious we are not as generous as you would like to believe. You're kidding me, right? That's just ONE commitment. And it's based on GDP. QuoteDid you accidentally forget to count civilian casualties? If you examine them, you get the idea how small our human sacrifice was in WWII. Not an accident - intent. Ya know, if a war is going on in your country, civilians are going to be a casualty. We'd be mixing apples and oranges on casualties of war in that country versus commitment in the aid of assisting that country with their war. The same as leaving off the 3,000+ killed in one day in NYC. I'm proud of this nation, it's history, it's people - of all creeds and cultures, its constitution of democracy and the constitution of its people. Each year, millions of immigrants seek refuge to become an American. They are proud to become American by choice. I feel sorry for those who are embarrassed or feel like they have to apologize for being American. Feel free not to be an American. I am done with this.Nobody has time to listen; because they're desperately chasing the need of being heard. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vallerina 2 #73 December 20, 2004 QuoteI'm proud of this nation, it's history, Eek! I'm really not proud of its history!There's a thin line between Saturday night and Sunday morning Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Paulipod 0 #74 December 20, 2004 Having lived in both the US and the UK, I would have to say that my general perception is that Americans tend to be more nationalistic that Europeans.... More flag wavers etc, which in turn could add to the perception of 'we are best' Not saying that national pride doesnt exist everywhere - but it sure is strong in the US. Easy comparison.... Go for a drive, see how many flags you see on cars / buildings, do the same anywhere else... TADA - a numerical comparison Personally, I think both Europe and the US has alot of Pro's and Cons Bodyflight Bedford www.bodyflight.co.uk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RoadRash 0 #75 December 20, 2004 QuoteMore flag wavers etc, which in turn could add to the perception of 'we are best' Not saying that national pride doesnt exist everywhere - but it sure is strong in the US. Which really wasn't the case until shortly after 9/11...when a breakout of American pride took place and the flag was being put on anything and everything... QuoteEasy comparison.... Go for a drive, see how many flags you see on cars / buildings, do the same anywhere else... TADA - a numerical comparison Ok, I thought that was funny......and true... QuotePersonally, I think both Europe and the US has alot of Pro's and Cons I agree...wholeheartedly...but the USA is home for me and I do take pride in it's history and it's principals... ~R+R...Good post man...thanks......~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~ Fly the friendly skies...^_^...})ii({...^_~... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
