crozby 0 #51 December 21, 2004 The 'What are you doing for your country' thing is very American. Maybe we would behave the same in the UK if we had been indoctrinated with stuff like the Pledge of Allegiance from an early age like you guys are. Instead, many people here figure its a case of how much they can take from the State rather than give to it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dropoutdave 0 #52 December 21, 2004 QuoteThe 'What are you doing for your country' thing is very American. Very true. I just wish some people could have a look at the bigger picture and see what they could do for the world and not just their country. I really dont give a shit about what I could do for England when you look at the poverty in the world, I'd rather do my volunteer work in 3rd World countries anyday than stand next to a flag and spout how proud I am to be from (insert western country here) and what I had done for the country. Total BS if you ask me when there are so many people in the world who struggle everyday just to stay alive. ------------------------------------------------------ May Contain Nut traces...... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jcd11235 0 #53 December 21, 2004 QuoteI find it funny that people consider "Paying Taxes" as something they did for the country.....Try not paying them and see what happens...Not very voluntary. Charity, I can see. Working for a defense contractor...Only if you are doing it to help and not for the money. But paying taxes? Nope. How about all the corporations that pay zero in tax liability? Are you admitting that they are a drain on the country?Math tutoring available. Only $6! per hour! First lesson: Factorials! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jcd11235 0 #54 December 21, 2004 QuoteI just wish some people could have a look at the bigger picture and see what they could do for the world and not just their country. I really dont give a shit about what I could do for England when you look at the poverty in the world, I'd rather do my volunteer work in 3rd World countries anyday than stand next to a flag and spout how proud I am to be from (insert western country here) and what I had done for the country. Total BS if you ask me when there are so many people in the world who struggle everyday just to stay alive. Well said.Math tutoring available. Only $6! per hour! First lesson: Factorials! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron 10 #55 December 21, 2004 QuoteHow about all the corporations that pay zero in tax liability? Are you admitting that they are a drain on the country? Quit grasping at straws I never said that. I said this BS about "I pay my taxes shows I support my country" is bogus. Like I said try not paying your taxes to the state, and you will become a guest of the state."No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnnyD 0 #56 December 21, 2004 QuoteThe 'What are you doing for your country' thing is very American. True, and in some cases it is even worse than not having the ability to view our place in world. Some Texans (easy example - no offense intended) view Texas as its own country. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,105 #57 December 21, 2004 QuoteQuoteHow about all the corporations that pay zero in tax liability? Are you admitting that they are a drain on the country? Quit grasping at straws I never said that. I said this BS about "I pay my taxes shows I support my country" is bogus. Like I said try not paying your taxes to the state, and you will become a guest of the state. Well, what about people who try to reduce tax renenues? They are definitely working AGAINST the country. I think most of them are Bush Republicans. None of the people in the armed services would be able to achieve much if they had no equipment or food which someone has to produce and pay for. AND I suppose since the troops themselves are PAID they don't count anyway. This is a silly thread.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vallerina 2 #58 December 21, 2004 Mmm....logic turns me on! There's a thin line between Saturday night and Sunday morning Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron 10 #59 December 21, 2004 QuoteWell, what about people who try to reduce tax renenues? They are definitely working AGAINST the country. I think most of them are Bush Republicans. Thats a generalization John...Don't you say those are bad? I know plenty of Dems that reduce their taxes. Besides as long as it is LEGAL it should be fine. Quote"No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites downwardspiral 0 #60 December 21, 2004 Quote This is a silly thread. Then why are you posting here? Personally, I could give a shit about anyone who has a problem with American patriotism. Just because you (in general, not you kallend) don't have pride in your country doesn't mean its "BS" for us to have pride in ours.www.FourWheelerHB.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites ad151 0 #61 December 21, 2004 Quote Personally, I could give a shit about anyone who has a problem with American patriotism. Just because you (in general, not you kallend) don't have pride in your country doesn't mean its "BS" for us to have pride in ours. Amen brotha. One should not forget the price of freedom. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites kallend 2,105 #62 December 21, 2004 QuoteQuoteWell, what about people who try to reduce tax renenues? They are definitely working AGAINST the country. I think most of them are Bush Republicans. Thats a generalization John...Don't you say those are bad? Quote No it wasn't. (1) I very carefully wrote "most". There are a few responsible Republicans and I'm sure even one or two Bush Republicans are uncomfortable with the revenue reduction. (2) Tax reduction is a mantra of Bush Republicans, even if it involves plunging the nation into debt that will take generations ot repay. Did you not listen to the debates? Did you not read the party platform? Promoting the nation's living beyond its means is NOT, repeat NOT, doing something positive for the country.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Ron 10 #63 December 21, 2004 QuoteTax reduction is a mantra of Bush Republicans, even if it involves plunging the nation into debt that will take generations ot repay. Did you not listen to the debates? Did you not read the party platform? I have said before that I feel that the tax cuts were needed to keep the economy from continuing heading south. People tend to hide money when you try and take it from them. I also have said at some time Taxes will need to be raised. I don't know when but the best answer to that is after we have a stronger economy with an upward trend. But you would rather just tax us into a depression."No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jcd11235 0 #64 December 21, 2004 QuotePersonally, I could give a shit about anyone who has a problem with American patriotism. Just because you (in general, not you kallend) don't have pride in your country doesn't mean its "BS" for us to have pride in ours. What is BS is being accused of not having any pride in America, just because one dissents. IMO a dissenter is doing his/her country a far greater sevice than a blindly patriotic citizen.Math tutoring available. Only $6! per hour! First lesson: Factorials! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites kallend 2,105 #65 December 21, 2004 QuoteQuoteTax reduction is a mantra of Bush Republicans, even if it involves plunging the nation into debt that will take generations ot repay. Did you not listen to the debates? Did you not read the party platform? I have said before that I feel that the tax cuts were needed to keep the economy from continuing heading south. People tend to hide money when you try and take it from them. I also have said at some time Taxes will need to be raised. I don't know when but the best answer to that is after we have a stronger economy with an upward trend. But you would rather just tax us into a depression. Even the rosiest predictions of the Administration's economists don't have the "small and short term" deficit eliminated in the forseeable future. That is NOT responsib;e fiscal policy, any more than running up your credit card debt with no possibility of paying it off is responsible. The name we give to individuals who live this way is "DEADBEAT". Right now we have a deadbeat Administration.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jcd11235 0 #66 December 21, 2004 QuoteI have said before that I feel that the tax cuts were needed to keep the economy from continuing heading south. Then why hasn't it worked? It is not a sound economic theory. If you give an impoverished person $1.00, odds are very high that person is going to spend all of that money, putting $100 back into the economy. The next person to get that dollar will likely spend a large portion, as well, if not all of it, continuing down the line, until the rich man finally gets his profit. If you start by giving that same dollar to a rich man, right off the bat, he is going to save a percentage of it in a cash based fund, in all likelihood. Of course, some if it will be spent and invested, but there is going to be a cut taken out. This cut does not go back into the economy. By the time the dollar makes it to a payroll account it ammounts to only a few cents, slowing down economic growth, compared to giving the money directly to the impoverished individual. This can be demonstrated with Calculus, but I know how you feel about Mathematics, Ron.Math tutoring available. Only $6! per hour! First lesson: Factorials! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites downwardspiral 0 #67 December 22, 2004 QuoteQuotePersonally, I could give a shit about anyone who has a problem with American patriotism. Just because you (in general, not you kallend) don't have pride in your country doesn't mean its "BS" for us to have pride in ours. What is BS is being accused of not having any pride in America, just because one dissents. IMO a dissenter is doing his/her country a far greater sevice than a blindly patriotic citizen. If you have actually been paying attention to the thread instead of looking for bits and pieces to argue about, you'll notice, I never accused anyone of not having pride in America. I was reffering to those non-americans that stated it was BS that the subject was "What have you done for your country" rather than "what have you done for the world." So there. Edited to add: Furthermore, I have never stated that being a dissenter is not patriotic. There are a few people who are so argumentitive that they fail (or refuse in some cases) to see the true meat of the thread. Anyone care to take a guess at what the "meat" is?www.FourWheelerHB.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jcd11235 0 #68 December 22, 2004 QuoteIf you have actually been paying attention to the thread instead of looking for bits and pieces to argue about, you'll notice, I never accused anyone of not having pride in America. While I admit, rereading the post from that perspesctive, it does moke sense, but it could also be read as accusing those of us who are not blind with patriotism of not having any pride in our country, and it is from that perspective that I made my response. As for looking for an argument? Give me a break. Why are we here in Speakers Corner?Math tutoring available. Only $6! per hour! First lesson: Factorials! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Shotgun 1 #69 December 22, 2004 I am not having children - that is what I'm doing for my country.... Now if all the people who are even more psychotic than I am would just do the same... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Shark 0 #70 December 22, 2004 QuoteI pay my taxes, and can not serve as a juror as I'm not a US citizen yet. however, it has not deterred me from serving in the USN after 9/11. Currently in the process to transfer to the Army. My citizenship in on its way. Blue skies... Transferring from the Navy to the Army is considered treasonous. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Ron 10 #71 December 22, 2004 QuoteThen why hasn't it worked? It is not a sound economic theory. Gee it seems to have worked, the economy is gettting better and when Clinton gave it to bush it was headed south. I know that reading the news and following the market is hard for you, but the economy was headed south and now it is not. QuoteThis can be demonstrated with Calculus, but I know how you feel about Mathematics, Ron. Its much easier to just look at the market. But I know you hate to read things that prove you wrong."No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites SkyDekker 1,465 #72 December 22, 2004 QuoteGee it seems to have worked, the economy is gettting better and when Clinton gave it to bush it was headed south. I know that reading the news and following the market is hard for you, but the economy was headed south and now it is not. he he he he, that is like saying that your 2.5% increase in salary is a great step forward, while all the time your debt has increased by a 1,000%....I wouldn't call that a good thing. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Ron 10 #73 December 22, 2004 Quotehe he he he, that is like saying that your 2.5% increase in salary is a great step forward, while all the time your debt has increased by a 1,000%....I wouldn't call that a good thing. It is better than your salary being CUT but 2.5% and going into debt."No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites SkyDekker 1,465 #74 December 22, 2004 QuoteIt is better than your salary being CUT but 2.5% and going into debt. True, though the difference is like the difference between a bullet in your left kneecap or your right kneecap. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Ron 10 #75 December 22, 2004 QuoteTrue, though the difference is like the difference between a bullet in your left kneecap or your right kneecap. Not even close. Maybe the difference between a kneecap and your head. One is a pain that you can recover from, the other Fatal."No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 3 4 Next Page 3 of 4 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. 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downwardspiral 0 #60 December 21, 2004 Quote This is a silly thread. Then why are you posting here? Personally, I could give a shit about anyone who has a problem with American patriotism. Just because you (in general, not you kallend) don't have pride in your country doesn't mean its "BS" for us to have pride in ours.www.FourWheelerHB.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ad151 0 #61 December 21, 2004 Quote Personally, I could give a shit about anyone who has a problem with American patriotism. Just because you (in general, not you kallend) don't have pride in your country doesn't mean its "BS" for us to have pride in ours. Amen brotha. One should not forget the price of freedom. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,105 #62 December 21, 2004 QuoteQuoteWell, what about people who try to reduce tax renenues? They are definitely working AGAINST the country. I think most of them are Bush Republicans. Thats a generalization John...Don't you say those are bad? Quote No it wasn't. (1) I very carefully wrote "most". There are a few responsible Republicans and I'm sure even one or two Bush Republicans are uncomfortable with the revenue reduction. (2) Tax reduction is a mantra of Bush Republicans, even if it involves plunging the nation into debt that will take generations ot repay. Did you not listen to the debates? Did you not read the party platform? Promoting the nation's living beyond its means is NOT, repeat NOT, doing something positive for the country.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Ron 10 #63 December 21, 2004 QuoteTax reduction is a mantra of Bush Republicans, even if it involves plunging the nation into debt that will take generations ot repay. Did you not listen to the debates? Did you not read the party platform? I have said before that I feel that the tax cuts were needed to keep the economy from continuing heading south. People tend to hide money when you try and take it from them. I also have said at some time Taxes will need to be raised. I don't know when but the best answer to that is after we have a stronger economy with an upward trend. But you would rather just tax us into a depression."No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jcd11235 0 #64 December 21, 2004 QuotePersonally, I could give a shit about anyone who has a problem with American patriotism. Just because you (in general, not you kallend) don't have pride in your country doesn't mean its "BS" for us to have pride in ours. What is BS is being accused of not having any pride in America, just because one dissents. IMO a dissenter is doing his/her country a far greater sevice than a blindly patriotic citizen.Math tutoring available. Only $6! per hour! First lesson: Factorials! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites kallend 2,105 #65 December 21, 2004 QuoteQuoteTax reduction is a mantra of Bush Republicans, even if it involves plunging the nation into debt that will take generations ot repay. Did you not listen to the debates? Did you not read the party platform? I have said before that I feel that the tax cuts were needed to keep the economy from continuing heading south. People tend to hide money when you try and take it from them. I also have said at some time Taxes will need to be raised. I don't know when but the best answer to that is after we have a stronger economy with an upward trend. But you would rather just tax us into a depression. Even the rosiest predictions of the Administration's economists don't have the "small and short term" deficit eliminated in the forseeable future. That is NOT responsib;e fiscal policy, any more than running up your credit card debt with no possibility of paying it off is responsible. The name we give to individuals who live this way is "DEADBEAT". Right now we have a deadbeat Administration.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jcd11235 0 #66 December 21, 2004 QuoteI have said before that I feel that the tax cuts were needed to keep the economy from continuing heading south. Then why hasn't it worked? It is not a sound economic theory. If you give an impoverished person $1.00, odds are very high that person is going to spend all of that money, putting $100 back into the economy. The next person to get that dollar will likely spend a large portion, as well, if not all of it, continuing down the line, until the rich man finally gets his profit. If you start by giving that same dollar to a rich man, right off the bat, he is going to save a percentage of it in a cash based fund, in all likelihood. Of course, some if it will be spent and invested, but there is going to be a cut taken out. This cut does not go back into the economy. By the time the dollar makes it to a payroll account it ammounts to only a few cents, slowing down economic growth, compared to giving the money directly to the impoverished individual. This can be demonstrated with Calculus, but I know how you feel about Mathematics, Ron.Math tutoring available. Only $6! per hour! First lesson: Factorials! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites downwardspiral 0 #67 December 22, 2004 QuoteQuotePersonally, I could give a shit about anyone who has a problem with American patriotism. Just because you (in general, not you kallend) don't have pride in your country doesn't mean its "BS" for us to have pride in ours. What is BS is being accused of not having any pride in America, just because one dissents. IMO a dissenter is doing his/her country a far greater sevice than a blindly patriotic citizen. If you have actually been paying attention to the thread instead of looking for bits and pieces to argue about, you'll notice, I never accused anyone of not having pride in America. I was reffering to those non-americans that stated it was BS that the subject was "What have you done for your country" rather than "what have you done for the world." So there. Edited to add: Furthermore, I have never stated that being a dissenter is not patriotic. There are a few people who are so argumentitive that they fail (or refuse in some cases) to see the true meat of the thread. Anyone care to take a guess at what the "meat" is?www.FourWheelerHB.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jcd11235 0 #68 December 22, 2004 QuoteIf you have actually been paying attention to the thread instead of looking for bits and pieces to argue about, you'll notice, I never accused anyone of not having pride in America. While I admit, rereading the post from that perspesctive, it does moke sense, but it could also be read as accusing those of us who are not blind with patriotism of not having any pride in our country, and it is from that perspective that I made my response. As for looking for an argument? Give me a break. Why are we here in Speakers Corner?Math tutoring available. Only $6! per hour! First lesson: Factorials! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Shotgun 1 #69 December 22, 2004 I am not having children - that is what I'm doing for my country.... Now if all the people who are even more psychotic than I am would just do the same... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Shark 0 #70 December 22, 2004 QuoteI pay my taxes, and can not serve as a juror as I'm not a US citizen yet. however, it has not deterred me from serving in the USN after 9/11. Currently in the process to transfer to the Army. My citizenship in on its way. Blue skies... Transferring from the Navy to the Army is considered treasonous. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Ron 10 #71 December 22, 2004 QuoteThen why hasn't it worked? It is not a sound economic theory. Gee it seems to have worked, the economy is gettting better and when Clinton gave it to bush it was headed south. I know that reading the news and following the market is hard for you, but the economy was headed south and now it is not. QuoteThis can be demonstrated with Calculus, but I know how you feel about Mathematics, Ron. Its much easier to just look at the market. But I know you hate to read things that prove you wrong."No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites SkyDekker 1,465 #72 December 22, 2004 QuoteGee it seems to have worked, the economy is gettting better and when Clinton gave it to bush it was headed south. I know that reading the news and following the market is hard for you, but the economy was headed south and now it is not. he he he he, that is like saying that your 2.5% increase in salary is a great step forward, while all the time your debt has increased by a 1,000%....I wouldn't call that a good thing. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Ron 10 #73 December 22, 2004 Quotehe he he he, that is like saying that your 2.5% increase in salary is a great step forward, while all the time your debt has increased by a 1,000%....I wouldn't call that a good thing. It is better than your salary being CUT but 2.5% and going into debt."No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites SkyDekker 1,465 #74 December 22, 2004 QuoteIt is better than your salary being CUT but 2.5% and going into debt. True, though the difference is like the difference between a bullet in your left kneecap or your right kneecap. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Ron 10 #75 December 22, 2004 QuoteTrue, though the difference is like the difference between a bullet in your left kneecap or your right kneecap. Not even close. Maybe the difference between a kneecap and your head. One is a pain that you can recover from, the other Fatal."No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 3 4 Next Page 3 of 4 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0
Ron 10 #63 December 21, 2004 QuoteTax reduction is a mantra of Bush Republicans, even if it involves plunging the nation into debt that will take generations ot repay. Did you not listen to the debates? Did you not read the party platform? I have said before that I feel that the tax cuts were needed to keep the economy from continuing heading south. People tend to hide money when you try and take it from them. I also have said at some time Taxes will need to be raised. I don't know when but the best answer to that is after we have a stronger economy with an upward trend. But you would rather just tax us into a depression."No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jcd11235 0 #64 December 21, 2004 QuotePersonally, I could give a shit about anyone who has a problem with American patriotism. Just because you (in general, not you kallend) don't have pride in your country doesn't mean its "BS" for us to have pride in ours. What is BS is being accused of not having any pride in America, just because one dissents. IMO a dissenter is doing his/her country a far greater sevice than a blindly patriotic citizen.Math tutoring available. Only $6! per hour! First lesson: Factorials! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,105 #65 December 21, 2004 QuoteQuoteTax reduction is a mantra of Bush Republicans, even if it involves plunging the nation into debt that will take generations ot repay. Did you not listen to the debates? Did you not read the party platform? I have said before that I feel that the tax cuts were needed to keep the economy from continuing heading south. People tend to hide money when you try and take it from them. I also have said at some time Taxes will need to be raised. I don't know when but the best answer to that is after we have a stronger economy with an upward trend. But you would rather just tax us into a depression. Even the rosiest predictions of the Administration's economists don't have the "small and short term" deficit eliminated in the forseeable future. That is NOT responsib;e fiscal policy, any more than running up your credit card debt with no possibility of paying it off is responsible. The name we give to individuals who live this way is "DEADBEAT". Right now we have a deadbeat Administration.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jcd11235 0 #66 December 21, 2004 QuoteI have said before that I feel that the tax cuts were needed to keep the economy from continuing heading south. Then why hasn't it worked? It is not a sound economic theory. If you give an impoverished person $1.00, odds are very high that person is going to spend all of that money, putting $100 back into the economy. The next person to get that dollar will likely spend a large portion, as well, if not all of it, continuing down the line, until the rich man finally gets his profit. If you start by giving that same dollar to a rich man, right off the bat, he is going to save a percentage of it in a cash based fund, in all likelihood. Of course, some if it will be spent and invested, but there is going to be a cut taken out. This cut does not go back into the economy. By the time the dollar makes it to a payroll account it ammounts to only a few cents, slowing down economic growth, compared to giving the money directly to the impoverished individual. This can be demonstrated with Calculus, but I know how you feel about Mathematics, Ron.Math tutoring available. Only $6! per hour! First lesson: Factorials! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
downwardspiral 0 #67 December 22, 2004 QuoteQuotePersonally, I could give a shit about anyone who has a problem with American patriotism. Just because you (in general, not you kallend) don't have pride in your country doesn't mean its "BS" for us to have pride in ours. What is BS is being accused of not having any pride in America, just because one dissents. IMO a dissenter is doing his/her country a far greater sevice than a blindly patriotic citizen. If you have actually been paying attention to the thread instead of looking for bits and pieces to argue about, you'll notice, I never accused anyone of not having pride in America. I was reffering to those non-americans that stated it was BS that the subject was "What have you done for your country" rather than "what have you done for the world." So there. Edited to add: Furthermore, I have never stated that being a dissenter is not patriotic. There are a few people who are so argumentitive that they fail (or refuse in some cases) to see the true meat of the thread. Anyone care to take a guess at what the "meat" is?www.FourWheelerHB.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jcd11235 0 #68 December 22, 2004 QuoteIf you have actually been paying attention to the thread instead of looking for bits and pieces to argue about, you'll notice, I never accused anyone of not having pride in America. While I admit, rereading the post from that perspesctive, it does moke sense, but it could also be read as accusing those of us who are not blind with patriotism of not having any pride in our country, and it is from that perspective that I made my response. As for looking for an argument? Give me a break. Why are we here in Speakers Corner?Math tutoring available. Only $6! per hour! First lesson: Factorials! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shotgun 1 #69 December 22, 2004 I am not having children - that is what I'm doing for my country.... Now if all the people who are even more psychotic than I am would just do the same... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shark 0 #70 December 22, 2004 QuoteI pay my taxes, and can not serve as a juror as I'm not a US citizen yet. however, it has not deterred me from serving in the USN after 9/11. Currently in the process to transfer to the Army. My citizenship in on its way. Blue skies... Transferring from the Navy to the Army is considered treasonous. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron 10 #71 December 22, 2004 QuoteThen why hasn't it worked? It is not a sound economic theory. Gee it seems to have worked, the economy is gettting better and when Clinton gave it to bush it was headed south. I know that reading the news and following the market is hard for you, but the economy was headed south and now it is not. QuoteThis can be demonstrated with Calculus, but I know how you feel about Mathematics, Ron. Its much easier to just look at the market. But I know you hate to read things that prove you wrong."No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #72 December 22, 2004 QuoteGee it seems to have worked, the economy is gettting better and when Clinton gave it to bush it was headed south. I know that reading the news and following the market is hard for you, but the economy was headed south and now it is not. he he he he, that is like saying that your 2.5% increase in salary is a great step forward, while all the time your debt has increased by a 1,000%....I wouldn't call that a good thing. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron 10 #73 December 22, 2004 Quotehe he he he, that is like saying that your 2.5% increase in salary is a great step forward, while all the time your debt has increased by a 1,000%....I wouldn't call that a good thing. It is better than your salary being CUT but 2.5% and going into debt."No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #74 December 22, 2004 QuoteIt is better than your salary being CUT but 2.5% and going into debt. True, though the difference is like the difference between a bullet in your left kneecap or your right kneecap. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron 10 #75 December 22, 2004 QuoteTrue, though the difference is like the difference between a bullet in your left kneecap or your right kneecap. Not even close. Maybe the difference between a kneecap and your head. One is a pain that you can recover from, the other Fatal."No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
