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>But as for evidence...Lets see, he had WMD's (can't deny that) and he stated he hated America and wanted us to suffer (Can't deny that either)...
So lets see, we have a guy that hates us, had WMD's and even tried to kill a President..
Yeah, I'd say he was a threat.
>I ask for proof of your claims that Bush lied, and you can't provide any...cool thing about America is you have to PROVE a person is quilty...Somehting you have not been able to do.
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so if i have a gun, and i say i hate you, what crime am i guilty of?
So lets see, we have a guy that hates us, had WMD's and even tried to kill a President..
Yeah, I'd say he was a threat.
>I ask for proof of your claims that Bush lied, and you can't provide any...cool thing about America is you have to PROVE a person is quilty...Somehting you have not been able to do.
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so if i have a gun, and i say i hate you, what crime am i guilty of?
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people see me as a challenge to their balance
people see me as a challenge to their balance
Faber 0
funny thing is that most of Europe saw this long time ago were we were blamed by US to say as we did..
how ironic... now clean up the mess
Stay safe
Stefan Faber
how ironic... now clean up the mess
Stay safe
Stefan Faber
mnealtx 0
Quotefunny thing is that most of Europe saw this long time ago were we were blamed by US to say as we did..
how ironic... now clean up the mess
Well, evidently SOMEone had to act, now didn't they?
Mike
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QuoteWell, evidently SOMEone had to act, now didn't they?
No.
kallend 2,026
QuoteQuotefunny thing is that most of Europe saw this long time ago were we were blamed by US to say as we did..
how ironic... now clean up the mess
Well, evidently SOMEone had to act, now didn't they?
No. The US got it wrong. Lies or "bad intel", the US got it wrong.
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The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.
mnealtx 0
In reply to the usual response from the Left-leaning, the usual reply about 20/20 hindsight and the information available at the time.
QuoteAny fool can criticize, condemn and complain - and most fools do"
-Ben Franklin
Mike
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kallend 2,026
QuoteIn reply to the usual response from the Left-leaning, the usual reply about 20/20 hindsight and the information available at the time.
QuoteAny fool can criticize, condemn and complain - and most fools do"
-Ben Franklin
It's good to see that you now recognize that the US got it wrong. Pity that Bush can't acknowledge making a mistake - that's the first step to recovery.
What would Jesus have done?
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The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.
The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.
Ron 10
QuoteSo, Ron, are you saying that we had troops guarding the expolsives, and they were overwhelmed, and unable to defend their post? I didn't hear anything about that.
No, Im saying that if 360 Tons of stuff can dissapear, then a few tons of another substance should be easy to hide.
Try to stay on topic.
"No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334
Ron 10
Quoteso if i have a gun, and i say i hate you, what crime am i guilty of
Well if you had a gun, said you hated me and my whole family and tried to kill my Dad...Id consider you a threat.
And the attemepted Murder is a crime.
"No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334
mnealtx 0
Where do you get that impression from my reply? I was replying to the incessant Monday-morning quarterbacking that some do, with the benefit of knowing what is known now.
I supported the invasion at the time it happened, and I still support it today. We are doing good things over there, overall.
I supported the invasion at the time it happened, and I still support it today. We are doing good things over there, overall.
Mike
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QuoteQuoteso if i have a gun, and i say i hate you, what crime am i guilty of
Well if you had a gun, said you hated me and my whole family and tried to kill my Dad...Id consider you a threat.
And the attemepted Murder is a crime.
Wait, now you're justifying taking our nation to war and over a thousand of our soldiers dead, to catch an attempted murderer?
Ron 10
QuoteWait, now you're justifying taking our nation to war and over a thousand of our soldiers dead, to catch an attempted murderer?
no, I answered his question. Keep up, or don't play along.
"No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334
So your previous statement was made to illustrate what point?
Ron 10
QuoteSo your previous statement was made to illustrate what point?
He asked a question, I answered it...You might want to ask him what his point was.
"No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334
His point was pretty obvious, that the invasion of Iraq was not justified. You seem to be refuting that, are you not? His allegory is in context, as is yours. You seem to be back peddling.
Ron 10
Well lets see.
1. You claim to hate me.
2. You say you want me to die.
3. You have weapons that could do it.
4. You have used those weapons before, so I know you will kill.
5. You have tried to kill a former President, so I know you are serious about hating me.
Seems to me pretty clear that you are a danger.
1. You claim to hate me.
2. You say you want me to die.
3. You have weapons that could do it.
4. You have used those weapons before, so I know you will kill.
5. You have tried to kill a former President, so I know you are serious about hating me.
Seems to me pretty clear that you are a danger.
"No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334
Ok....that's a much more thorough explanation, and an understandable view point. Although only 4 of the 5 of those things are true about me 
But take those 5 things, and put yourself in the shoes of Kim Jong-Il or Ali Khamenei. Couldn't they say the same thing about Bush?
But take those 5 things, and put yourself in the shoes of Kim Jong-Il or Ali Khamenei. Couldn't they say the same thing about Bush?
Ron 10
QuoteOk....that's a much more thorough explanation, and an understandable view point. Although only 4 of the 5 of those things are true about me
See and I have tried to defuse the situation by offering to buy you dinner....I could have invaded, but that involves travel and I'm kinda busy.
QuoteBut take those 5 things, and put yourself in the shoes of Kim Jong-Il or Ali Khamenei. Couldn't they say the same thing about Bush?
Yep. Except I don't think we tried to kill anyone....yet.
So we may have motive, means, but we don't have intent yet.
"No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334
QuoteYep. Except I don't think we tried to kill anyone....yet.
Why do you think we bombed the hell out of SH's palaces and personal residences at the start of the war?
Quoteget the troops out imediatley yes, saddam can be trird in the world court and bush might make an appearance there himself just to explain himse
We'll if you think going in was a bad idea then locking up SH would be wrong too. If you want to put SH on trail then you logically believe the means justified then ends.
I'm not even going to touch the socialist idea of a world court. The people of iraq have enough reasons to put SH on trial and put him to death. And if not then a US Military lead trail should do the trick.
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>Far less then those killed in 9/11 and they were not expecting to fight for their lives.
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damn bro, who should we invade for the skydivers who dies last year?
That is an illogical comparison. I would say that the skydiver them selves should make all efforts to stay safe. But interesting that you avoid answering yet included that in your response.
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big balls and no smarts just gets you killed though.
I love this country. I love the brave men & women that have fought and still fight to spread freedom across this planet. Seems to me we should be doing more.
Spreading freedom and tolerance is the only path to peace. That requires wars and killing people. Just asking that people be nice has not helped in the past 50 years. Hopefully only the enemy die but evil people like putting the innocent in the way. I think we went to a lot of effort to reduce the innocent getting killed. I have heard Bush say this all along. Maybe you never listen to him. Look where the enemy is coming from. Either from heavy repressed or evil dictatorships.
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they keep on saying that there are a few tens of thousand insurgents.
The enemy seems stupid for coming into a country where we would be legally allowed to kill them. It sucks but at least we don't have to invade Iran and if and when we do then it will be all that much easier.
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Ron 10
QuoteWhy do you think we bombed the hell out of SH's palaces and personal residences at the start of the war?
I was refering to Lil Kim and Ali Kazam.
"No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334
QuoteQuoteWhy do you think we bombed the hell out of SH's palaces and personal residences at the start of the war?
I was refering to Lil Kim and Ali Kazam.
Right...who Bush put on par with Hussein with his Axis of Evil declaration.
If someone said, I hate you, Joe Blow, and Joe Shmoe, you three comprise an Axis of Evil. Then he tried to kill Joe Shmoe, wouldn't you think he's a threat to you as well?
i meant for any one of those saddam reasons to be a choice, not all together.....sorry, should have been clearer.
people see me as a challenge to their balance
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