freeflydrew 0 #1 January 12, 2005 They called off the search for WMDs without finding any evidence of banned weapons nor programs... Who'd a guessed it? I'm not going to post a link because you can find it on every news website out there... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
slug 1 #2 January 12, 2005 But but the CIA, and the other reliable sources Worst case we could have taken some stuff with us just to find it. to prove we were correct.After we withraw there will ptobably be some WMD found (ours) R.I.P. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
storm1977 0 #3 January 12, 2005 QuoteBut but the CIA, and the other reliable sources Worst case we could have taken some stuff with us just to find it. to prove we were correct.After we withraw there will ptobably be some WMD found (ours) R.I.P. It has to be tough to go through life paranoid as you are. Don't you think if the US was as EVIL as you think they are, they would in fact have planted WMD and discovered it already, when the pressure was on for them to find something? It is pretty typical of some people around here that hate the US to never accept good things, and spin them as bad. And also to point out the truely bad things as even worse and more encompassing than they really are. Are you one of the same people that swore the US government already had OBL capture but was waiting until right before the election to announce it? Guess what.... No one really landed on the MOON. Oh, and the Tsunami was created by the US with Nukes to destroy islamo-facists... Oh, and since you live in Botswana, you must know that your country has one of the highest rates of HIV/AIDS in the world.... Go ahead, blame that on the US government too. It was our way to reguate your populations!!!!!!! ----------------------------------------------------- Sometimes it is more important to protect LIFE than Liberty Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,991 #4 January 12, 2005 >It has to be tough to go through life paranoid as you are. Consider this your one warning. If you cannot post without calling people names then don't post on the thread. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
storm1977 0 #5 January 12, 2005 sorry bill, didn't see that as an attack... I will try to word things differently. ----------------------------------------------------- Sometimes it is more important to protect LIFE than Liberty Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #6 January 12, 2005 QuoteOh, and since you live in Botswana, you must know that your country has one of the highest rates of HIV/AIDS in the world.... Go ahead, blame that on the US government too. It was our way to reguate your populations!!!!!!! Wouldn't blame it in the US, but it is an interesting phenomenon that 150,000 die in a tsunami and billions in aid money appears within a month. Millions die of aids and we can't even bring it upon ourselves to have them pay less for the medication they need...... And Storm, you are right, good thing they didn't find any WMD. Who cares about that little invasion thingy....right?!?!?! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dorbie 0 #7 January 12, 2005 QuoteQuoteOh, and since you live in Botswana, you must know that your country has one of the highest rates of HIV/AIDS in the world.... Go ahead, blame that on the US government too. It was our way to reguate your populations!!!!!!! Wouldn't blame it in the US, but it is an interesting phenomenon that 150,000 die in a tsunami and billions in aid money appears within a month. Millions die of aids and we can't even bring it upon ourselves to have them pay less for the medication they need...... And Storm, you are right, good thing they didn't find any WMD. Who cares about that little invasion thingy....right?!?!?! You're right that the coverage of the Tsunami has been disproportionate, however you go too far with your indictment of the West. African nations do get cheaper and even free medicine even in the face of accusations of using them as guinneapigs recently w.r.t. an inhibitor that reduces transmission to unborn children dramatically and has saved countless children from infection. It kinda perplexes me that we're so willing to kick ourselves for not doing more when that might undermine the engine that allows us to do anything. What would happen without western medicine there in so many areas? Antibiotics, vaccinations etc, the situation would be far worse. Saying we can't bring ourselves to help is plain wrong, but you're right on with observations w.r.t. the current news story. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vallerina 2 #8 January 12, 2005 Okay, will Rhino finally pay up now????There's a thin line between Saturday night and Sunday morning Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChasingBlueSky 0 #9 January 12, 2005 In a few years I can see the possibility of someone asking for a war crimes investigation._________________________________________ you can burn the land and boil the sea, but you can't take the sky from me.... I WILL fly again..... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #10 January 12, 2005 QuoteQuoteOh, and since you live in Botswana, you must know that your country has one of the highest rates of HIV/AIDS in the world.... Go ahead, blame that on the US government too. It was our way to reguate your populations!!!!!!! Wouldn't blame it in the US, but it is an interesting phenomenon that 150,000 die in a tsunami and billions in aid money appears within a month. Millions die of aids and we can't even bring it upon ourselves to have them pay less for the medication they need...... And Storm, you are right, good thing they didn't find any WMD. Who cares about that little invasion thingy....right?!?!?! Disaster aid Aids medicine funding Different pot of money entirelyMike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frenchy68 0 #11 January 12, 2005 QuoteIt has to be tough to go through life paranoid as you are. Invading a country under the presumption that it has WMD ready to be used against you, then finding out this country does not have them. That would qualify as paranoia... "For once you have tasted Absinthe you will walk the earth with your eyes turned towards the gutter, for there you have been and there you will long to return." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dorbie 0 #12 January 12, 2005 Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they're not out to get you. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #13 January 12, 2005 QuoteDisaster aid = Aids medicine funding Different pot of money entirely Really?!?!?!?!?! Many charity have been asking for money for ages for AIDS relief in Africa. Ask them how much money they have gotten from the general public and governments over the last couple of years. Now compare that to the amounts given in the last month for tsunami relief. Governments and different levels of government are falling over eachother to make sur ethey are giving more than others. etc. I think it is time for a reality check. Not to take anything away from the disaster, I think the response has been disproportionate compared to some of the other issues in the world. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #14 January 12, 2005 Sorry about that, SkyDekker...that's supposed to be a "not equals" sign and I messed it up. But yes, a disaster relief fund is entirely different.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
crozby 0 #15 January 12, 2005 I heard that 150,000 people - the number of Tsunami casualties - are dying of aids and poverty around the world each week. I dunno if that figure is correct, but what is for sure is that long ago the West got fed up of donating millions of dollars to Africa only for it to end up being used to purchase palaces and luxury for corrupt African leaders or weapons for the goons that keep them in power. If someone were to publish a dollar figure representing the total amount of aid donated to Africa by western people over the last 20 years there is no doubt in my mind there would be outrage at how little good has actually come from it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
storm1977 0 #16 January 12, 2005 Quote And Storm, you are right, good thing they didn't find any WMD. Who cares about that little invasion thingy....right?!?!?! Who cares about? Umm ... I would guess a lot of people. However, I think you missed the point. The person I replied to made a comment regarding the US planting WMD... When the fact is the US came out and said we are giving up our search. Some would say that it was noble thing to do .... admit that their intel was bad. It is funny, many here accused the Government and this administration of refusing to acknowledge mistakes, or faulty evidence/intel. Then when the Government does do that they get nothing but criticism from the folks.... Some what hypocritical if you ask me!!! ----------------------------------------------------- Sometimes it is more important to protect LIFE than Liberty Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dorbie 0 #17 January 12, 2005 QuoteI heard that 150,000 people - the number of Tsunami casualties - are dying of aids and poverty around the world each week. I dunno if that figure is correct, but what is for sure is that long ago the West got fed up of donating millions of dollars to Africa only for it to end up being used to purchase palaces and luxury for corrupt African leaders or weapons for the goons that keep them in power. If someone were to publish a dollar figure representing the total amount of aid donated to Africa by western people over the last 20 years there is no doubt in my mind there would be outrage at how little good has actually come from it. Instead of bashing why don't you ask how many lives have been saved by U.S. aid, whether it be food, training & education, medicine and other resources? You will find that the real record and its ongoing legacy is incredibly positive. Does anyone measure you by ALL the stuff you don't do, or the extra stuff you could have done? There's a virtually infinite number of things you could do, you only do a few things, most of which involve getting on with your life. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
storm1977 0 #18 January 12, 2005 well said..... This is common practice in anti-american talk these days, and something I mentioned earlier. Never discuss the good, except when spinning on how we didn't do enough, and blow the bad even further out of proportion!!! ----------------------------------------------------- Sometimes it is more important to protect LIFE than Liberty Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
crozby 0 #19 January 12, 2005 QuoteInstead of bashing why don't you ask how many lives have been saved by U.S. aid, whether it be food, training & education, medicine and other resources? Uhh? Who's rattled your cage Dorbie? I wasn't bashing US aid or any other aid, I was putting forward a possible explanation as to why the world can put it's hands in its pockets and find 3-4 billion in small change for the Tsunami victims in just a couple of weeks, but doesn't do anything like the same thing for Africa. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
crozby 0 #20 January 12, 2005 Quotewell said..... This is common practice in anti-american talk these days, and something I mentioned earlier. My post doesn't even mention the USA. Not explicitly or implicitly. What the fuck are you guys smoking? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,991 #21 January 12, 2005 >What the fuck are you guys smoking? And this is YOUR one warning. No attacks even if disguised as jokes or whatever. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
crozby 0 #22 January 12, 2005 QuoteAnd this is YOUR one warning. No attacks even if disguised as jokes or whatever. If in the USA the expression 'what have you been smoking' is a personal attack then I appologise. Here in the UK it's the equivalent to 'What the hell are you talking about?'. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mikkey 0 #23 January 12, 2005 QuoteHere in the UK it's the equivalent to 'What the hell are you talking about?'. Same here in OZ--------------------------------------------------------- When people look like ants - pull. When ants look like people - pray. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zenister 0 #24 January 13, 2005 QuoteQuoteHere in the UK it's the equivalent to 'What the hell are you talking about?'. Same here in OZ not much different in many circles in the US... the local variant in our test lab is "step away from the crackpipe"____________________________________ Those who fail to learn from the past are simply Doomed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
storm1977 0 #25 January 13, 2005 QuoteQuotewell said..... This is common practice in anti-american talk these days, and something I mentioned earlier. My post doesn't even mention the USA. Not explicitly or implicitly. What the fuck are you guys smoking? Funny, and my post doesn't even mention your name!!!! ----------------------------------------------------- Sometimes it is more important to protect LIFE than Liberty Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
