Journalist: U.S. planning for possible attack on Iran

[rhino 0]

http://www.cnn.com/2005/ALLPOLITICS/01/16/hersh.iran/index.html

Not a doubt in my mind that it is coming...

Rhino

[ahegeman 0]

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[rhino 0]

We are going Black Ops again.. It's the only way to get around the fucking press and mothers of america WHINING...

Whatever happened to secrecy and need to know? These days people think they have the right to know everything.. They don't... Secrecy needs to be reborn so we can do our job as a nation.. So our intelligence community can be rebuilt, re-born and start to function.. Clinton sure fucked the CIA up..

Rhino

[rmsmith 1]

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http://www.cnn.com/2005/ALLPOLITICS/01/16/hersh.iran/index.html

Not a doubt in my mind that it is coming...

Rhino

From the linked article:
Hersh identified those inside people as the "neoconservative" civilian leadership in the Pentagon. That includes Rumsfeld, Deputy Defense Secretary Paul Wolfowitz and Undersecretary of Defense Doug Feith -- "the sort of war hawks that we talk about in connection with the war in Iraq."

[rmsmith 1]

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Clinton sure fucked the CIA up...

Jimmy Carter and Stansfield Turner did in four years what will take at least fifty years to repair.

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Attacking Iran would be an even bigger mistake. Persians aren't Arabs, and are a great deal feistier than Arabs. Saddam himself found that out the hard way.

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"The mouse does not know life until it is in the mouth of the cat."

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Attacking Iran would be an even bigger mistake. Persians aren't Arabs, and are a great deal feistier than Arabs. Saddam himself found that out the hard way.

Totally agree.
And to make it interesting, you would now make sure the Shiite Muslim in Iraq turn against you. Good times!

"For once you have tasted Absinthe you will walk the earth with your eyes turned towards the gutter, for there you have been and there you will long to return."

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We are going Black Ops again.. It's the only way to get around the fucking press and mothers of america WHINING...

Whatever happened to secrecy and need to know? These days people think they have the right to know everything.. They don't... Secrecy needs to be reborn so we can do our job as a nation.. So our intelligence community can be rebuilt, re-born and start to function.. Clinton sure fucked the CIA up..

Rhino

As a taxpayer I would like to know.... Granted there's
not much I can do about it. But if our government feels
comfortable about putting that information out in a
press junket I trust that they've already had contacts
within Iran, and apparently things didn't go well. It's
not like we're just going to "sucker-punch" them in the
middle of the night. There's trade agreements, trade
routes, alliances, aftermath, lashback,... there's
HUNDREDS of different reasons that must be factored
in before making such a declaration of war. An attack
on Iran would've been insane a year or two ago. I
wonder whats changed...

There is absolutely nothing wrong with our intelligence
agencies... Secrecy and your need to know are
very well in effect... And the fact that your under the
impression that they're not functional means they are
doing their jobs very well.

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Clinton sure fucked the CIA up..

The CIA is NOT fucked up!!!!

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[AdD 1]

How can you favor the invasion of Iran while claiming to support US troups. Iran is not a threat. Iran wants nukes to protect itself from an American invasion. America is not the only country in the world with the right to self preservation, whatever it may believe. If the president's mandate is to make America and the world a safer place, his middle east policy is treason. One fabricated war down, how many more lives will be lost before America's gag reflex spews back this bullshit.

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[rhino 0]

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The CIA is NOT fucked up!!!!

You have your opinion I have mine.. I'm not saying the CIA is a bad organization by any means. Clinton crippled the CIA with his legislature. Try reading my words instead of what you want my words to say.

[crwslut 0]

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We are going Black Ops again.. It's the only way to get around the fucking press and mothers of america WHINING...

Whatever happened to secrecy and need to know? These days people think they have the right to know everything.. They don't... Secrecy needs to be reborn so we can do our job as a nation.. So our intelligence community can be rebuilt, re-born and start to function.. Clinton sure fucked the CIA up..

Rhino

'These days' it is critically important for American citizens to know. It's not too late. We can reclaim our country.

What could possibly go wrong?

[crozby 0]

There's an episode of the Simpsons where Sideshow Bob steps on a garden rakes, it springs up and hits his head and he says "Grrrrrrrr". Then he does it again. And again. And again, and so on for about a minute (which is an exceedingly long time to draw out a Simpsons joke).

Seems to me whoever wrote that sketch is the same bunch of comedians that have been masterminding US foreign policy for the last few years.

Yes Bush & co will attack Iran because they are too arrogant to learn from Iraq and too insensitive to understand the cost of their policies in terms of US and foreign lives, and too stupid to realise that in the end you can't use force to make an entire nation behave the way you want them to. Not for very long at any rate.

And when, at a later date, 'terrorists' emerge from this ever increasing pool of American hating people around the world and succeed in causing another 9/11 the US government will claim that it wasn't of their making - they are trying really hard to protect you all, but it just isn't easy because there are simply so many mad terrorists hell-bent on attacking you for no good reason except that you are American.

It is all so predictable and depressing.

[billvon 2,991]

>they are trying really hard to protect you all, but it just isn't easy
>because there are simply so many mad terrorists hell-bent on attacking
>you for no good reason except that you are American.

Yep. And the solution will be clear - attack another country! If we kill enough people, the people left will stop hating us. War is peace.

[Gravitymaster 0]

http://worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=42441

WAR ON TERROR
Saddam henchman: Iran funding resistance
Head of 'Army of Muhammad' talks of help from Tehran, Syria

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Posted: January 18, 2005
5:00 p.m. Eastern



© 2005 WorldNetDaily.com

The man who led Saddam Hussein's "Army of Muhammad" during 2004 has confessed that Iran is the primary source of funding for his jihadists battling U.S. forces in Iraq.

Col. Muayed Al-Nasseri made the comments on a taped interrogation that was broadcast on an Iraqi television station operating from the United Arab Emirates, Al-Fayhaa TV. The tape was translated by the Middle East Media Research Institute, or MEMRI-TV. A video clip of the interrogation is available on MEMRI's website.


Al-Nasseri says the Army of Muhammad was founded by Saddam Hussein after the fall of his regime in April 2003. He claims he is the third commander of the 800-man operation.

"We carried out many armed operations against the coalition forces in all the districts," Al-Nasseri says on the tape. "The operations included bombarding their military posts, their camps and their bases, fighting these forces and planting explosive devices against their patrols and convoys."

He says after the fall of the regime, Hussein put out the word for loyalists to join the Army of Muhammad.

"Saddam Hussein distributed a communique via the [Baath Party], back then, instructing all his supporters or whoever wants to fight the jihad for the sake of Allah to join the Army of Muhammad because it is the army of the leadership," Al-Nasseri said.

The suspect then fingers Iran as the main funding source of the resistance.

"Many factions of the resistance are receiving aid from the neighboring countries," Al-Nasseri said. "We in the Army of Muhammad – the fighting has been going on for almost two years now, and there must be aid, and this aid came from the neighboring countries. We got aid primarily from Iran. The truth is that Iran has played a significant role in supporting the Army of Muhammad and many factions of the resistance. I have some units, especially in southern Iraq, which receive Iranian aid in the form of arms and equipment."

He says another resistance group actually traveled to Iran to pick up arms and cash and to meet with Ayatollah Ali Khamenei:

"As for other factions of the resistance, I have reliable information regarding the National Islamic resistance, which is one of the factions of resistance, led by Colonel 'Asi Al Hadithi. He sent a delegation to Iran from among the people of the faction, including General Halaf and General Khdayyer. They were sent to Iran in April or May and met with Iranian intelligence and with a number of Iranian leaders and even with Khamenei."

Al-Nasseri says they picked up "$1 million dollars and two cars full of weapons. They still have a very close relationship with Iran. They receive money, cars, weapons and many things. According to my information, they even got car bombs."

The suspect then talks about links to Syria.

"Cooperation with Syria began in October 2003," he said, "when a Syrian intelligence officer contacted me. S'ad Hamad Hisham and later Saddam Hussein himself authorized me to go to Syria. So I was sent to Syria. I crossed the border illegally. Then I went to Damascus and met with an intelligence officer, Lieutenant-Colonel 'Abu Naji', through a mediator called 'Abu Saud.'"

On the videotape, Al-Nasseri says the Syrian government authorized him to meet with a Baath Party member, Fawzi Al-Rawi, "who is a member of the national leadership and an important figure in Syria."

Al-Nasseri says Al-Rawi informed him that "the Army of Muhammad would receive material aid in the form of goods, given to us for free or for a very low price, for us to sell in Iraq, in order to support the Army of Muhammad. This was done this way due to Syria's current circumstances, international pressure and accusations of supporting the terrorism and resistance in Iraq."

[mr2mk1g 10]

Putting out a clip on Iraqi TV saying that Iran and Syria are funding the insurgency would be a great way to sway the Iraqi population into hating the insurgents themselves. That would sure be a cool piece of counter intelligence work for the coalition if they could find such a clip.

[Gravitymaster 0]

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Putting out a clip on Iraqi TV saying that Iran and Syria are funding the insurgency would be a great way to sway the Iraqi population into hating the insurgents themselves. That would sure be a cool piece of counter intelligence work for the coalition if they could find such a clip.

Pssssst... It's not all a big conspiracy.

[mr2mk1g 10]

heheh, I know - part joshing, part pointing out the 'fringe' benefits of such a clip... also partially seriously saying that if I was in a pos. of authority in mil. Intel. - that would be an option I'd want looking at. It's exactly the sort of operation that would have been carried out by British intel. during WWII. After all, it’s also in the text book for counter insurgency work – “winning hearts and minds”.