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EU may ban Nazi symbols...
No more American flags...
No more American flags...
Gawain 0
Not surprising...already in France they've removed the freedom to express religious preference. This is next.
Western Europe is becoming a creaking example of what they used to fear in the former Soviet Bloc. Already, there is no freedom of press or in some cases political expression.
Hopefully, members of the EU that were formerly behind the Iron Curtain will vigorously fight this kind of censorship.
I don't like what the Swastika represents in the western world either, but by banning it, we will forget what it meant in the 1930s-40s. You need to see it to be reminded of it, so that we can see the hatred it represents in some circles.
Western Europe is becoming a creaking example of what they used to fear in the former Soviet Bloc. Already, there is no freedom of press or in some cases political expression.
Hopefully, members of the EU that were formerly behind the Iron Curtain will vigorously fight this kind of censorship.
I don't like what the Swastika represents in the western world either, but by banning it, we will forget what it meant in the 1930s-40s. You need to see it to be reminded of it, so that we can see the hatred it represents in some circles.
So I try and I scream and I beg and I sigh
Just to prove I'm alive, and it's alright
'Cause tonight there's a way I'll make light of my treacherous life
Make light!
Just to prove I'm alive, and it's alright
'Cause tonight there's a way I'll make light of my treacherous life
Make light!
Kennedy 0
QuoteQuoteEU may ban Nazi symbols...
No more American flags...
Don't let the door smack you on the way out.
ps -above is the proper way to reply to a post.
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Y'all know... It's NOT the symbol, it's the behaviour.
Personally I'd like to see the "Nazi" Swastika allowed anywhere. I'd also like to see it made mandatory wear for all the right wing lunatics... A little like the yellow star was made mandatory for Jews in Nazi Germany.
Give the faschists their badge! Let them... No... Make them wear it. Then you know them for who & what they are. Your behaviour towards them is then, of course, up to you!
Mike.
Taking the piss out of the FrenchAmericans since before it was fashionable.
Prenait la pisse hors du FrançaisCanadiens méridionaux puisqu'avant lui à la mode.
Personally I'd like to see the "Nazi" Swastika allowed anywhere. I'd also like to see it made mandatory wear for all the right wing lunatics... A little like the yellow star was made mandatory for Jews in Nazi Germany.
Give the faschists their badge! Let them... No... Make them wear it. Then you know them for who & what they are. Your behaviour towards them is then, of course, up to you!
Mike.
Taking the piss out of the FrenchAmericans since before it was fashionable.
Prenait la pisse hors du FrançaisCanadiens méridionaux puisqu'avant lui à la mode.
QuoteNot surprising...already in France they've removed the freedom to express religious preference. This is next.
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You surely are talking about the religious symbols ("flashy" religious symbols). The freedom to express your religion is not removed. To present these symbols or not, already was a big issue in South Germany. So, in an elementary school, the "Cross" had to be removed. If you think a little bit ahead, it's not the worst idea to NOT show your religious symbols f. e. in schools.
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Western Europe is becoming a creaking example of what they used to fear in the former Soviet Bloc. Already, there is no freedom of press or in some cases political expression.
Hopefully, members of the EU that were formerly behind the Iron Curtain will vigorously fight this kind of censorship.
Monsieur le Connoisseur, how long did you live in Europe? The Western Europe press is free as freedom of press can be. Otherwise, we would not have learned so much about the world and the US, just f.e. Guy, we go wherever we want to. We read every printed paper available in every country of the world. You must be kidding with such a foolish statement.
BTW: I watch CNN and other channels... I am not locked in my little German world
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I don't like what the Swastika represents in the western world either, but by banning it, we will forget what it meant in the 1930s-40s. You need to see it to be reminded of it, so that we can see the hatred it represents in some circles.
As long as it could be used as a digression
, right on 
dudeist skydiver # 3105
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QuotePersonally I'd like to see the "Nazi" Swastika allowed anywhere. I'd also like to see it made mandatory wear for all the right wing lunatics... A little like the yellow star was made mandatory for Jews in Nazi Germany.
Give the faschists their badge! Let them... No... Make them wear it. Then you know them for who & what they are.
The Nazis forced people they considered different wear ID badges.
You want to force people you consider different wear ID badges.
See any similarities there? Or are you above reproach because you "know you're right?"
(hint: Nazis "knew they were right" too)
I still wonder what makes people think "left" big government would be better than "right" beg government.
witty subliminal message
Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards.
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Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards.
1*
QuoteY'all know... It's NOT the symbol, it's the behaviour.
Personally I'd like to see the "Nazi" Swastika allowed anywhere. I'd also like to see it made mandatory wear for all the right wing lunatics... A little like the yellow star was made mandatory for Jews in Nazi Germany.
Give the faschists their badge! Let them... No... Make them wear it. Then you know them for who & what they are. Your behaviour towards them is then, of course, up to you!Quote
That needs a little more of consideration, I think this idea is not the worst.... but
- how to force these idiots to wear their beloved Swastika? One good idea is to make them public. To show their faces, especially the "politicians" beneath them.
- Pls do not forget there still are many survivors of CCs and their families. Not only Jewish. Could they stand to see that symbol again in the street, knowing, parts of family were killed.... No. For that, it's much toooo early.
- What about a nice little tatoo just on their foreheads showing NAZI? Imagine, that idiot is trying to find a job.... OK, perhaps not my best joke.
Christel
dudeist skydiver # 3105
QuoteThe Nazis forced people they considered different wear ID badges.
You want to force people you consider different wear ID badges.
See any similarities there? Or are you above reproach because you "know you're right?"
(hint: Nazis "knew they were right" too)
There's the concept of "irony" or "poetic Justice" in my last post. Maybe you missed the deliberateness of it.
There's also one small but significant difference: "Your behaviour towards them is then, of course, up to you." That's called individual right.
No Kristallenacht! No "Final Solution"! I believe that the Nazi (NSDAP) Swastika SHOULD be allowed. Mandatory would be nice, but not really neccessary since all the little Hitler Wannabees will flock to it and wear "their" badge with pride. So yeah... I'll trust the stupidity of adherents to the Nazi political philosophy to do the rest.
Mike.
Taking the piss out of the FrenchAmericans since before it was fashionable.
Prenait la pisse hors du FrançaisCanadiens méridionaux puisqu'avant lui à la mode.
skydyvr 0
QuoteMandatory would be nice . . .
Really? Is this a continuation of your irony, or is it your poetry?
. . =(_8^(1)
falxori 0
QuoteBTW: I watch CNN and other channels...
actually, you're watching the european/world version of CNN, which is completely different
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"Carpe diem, quam minimum credula postero."
What?
Censored, filtered? Made-up for the "outlandish"?
Now; I'll have to ask myself the question:
what did I really watch when I was in the US 4 months ago?
dudeist skydiver # 3105
Censored, filtered? Made-up for the "outlandish"?
Now; I'll have to ask myself the question:
what did I really watch when I was in the US 4 months ago?
dudeist skydiver # 3105
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QuoteWestern Europe is becoming a creaking example of what they used to fear in the former Soviet Bloc. Already, there is no freedom of press or in some cases political expression.
I'm sure I'm not the only European who finds your statement that there is no freedom of press or in some cases political expression just slightly at odds with the reality we are living in.
What are your sources for this wisdom?
What are your sources for this wisdom?
Just guessing: Perhaps the US (local) press?
dudeist skydiver # 3105
Kennedy 0
If he meant eastern europe, that case is so easy to make that I won't bother to unless someone disputes it.
(and Russia is backsliding more and more as well)
If he actually meant western europe, or old europe, the what he said is true to a point.
I have noticed more and more, when I was there and in your local press, that "freedom of speech" is becoming more and more "freedom to say anything as long as it won't offend an action group." Everytime you tell Nazis they can't march, that is not freedom of political expression. Everytime a book with negative tones about muslims is censored for supposed "hate speech," that is not freedom of the press.
Freedom means you have to let the idiots have their voice just like the rest of us. As much as I don't look forward to the next KKK march in NYC, I can't legally stop them, and I wouldn't want the power to do so.
(and Russia is backsliding more and more as well)
If he actually meant western europe, or old europe, the what he said is true to a point.
I have noticed more and more, when I was there and in your local press, that "freedom of speech" is becoming more and more "freedom to say anything as long as it won't offend an action group." Everytime you tell Nazis they can't march, that is not freedom of political expression. Everytime a book with negative tones about muslims is censored for supposed "hate speech," that is not freedom of the press.
Freedom means you have to let the idiots have their voice just like the rest of us. As much as I don't look forward to the next KKK march in NYC, I can't legally stop them, and I wouldn't want the power to do so.
witty subliminal message
Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards.
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Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards.
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Nonsense of course. The swastika that the Nazis used, and the ones that Hindus and Budhists use are different and would not be affected. Learn all about the correct use of the swastika here:
http://www.straightdope.com/classics/a2_156.html
Amd never underestimate how close to the surface the scars of WWII still are in Europe. It's got nothing to do with political correctness.
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