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Darius11 12
QuoteYep this is tragic, but I know why this happens.
It happens because illegal combatants drive up to checkpoints disguised as civilians and detonate explosives killing and maiming our troops.Quote
Is that statement a joke? Why are people driving up and blowing them self’s up? Do you ever see things from another perspective? The reason people started blowing them self’s up is because we invaded their country.
So we started a war because of WMD witch we just determined do not exists so Sadam did get rid of them.
I am going by what we can prove not what the paranoid believe. So we have soldiers in Iraq that went there for the wrong reasons, and I really don’t give a shit about sounding unpatriotic because I speak the truth. But it is still the guys’ fault that is driving his kids. It is just sad that you even see it that way. If it were you and your kid you would NOT try to find a reason to make it seem right.
But you can sit there and follow the chain of events that lead to this murder and not see where we are responsible.
This is a sad event all around. There is no way to make it seem right or nice. The saddest part is all of us would have done the same things that our soldiers did. If we were in the same position that this government put them in.
Thank you War supporters.
Yet another death that we can thank you for..I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain
juanesky 0
So I guess you can agree it is ok for a suicide bomber to have blown up US soldiers when in Lebanon then, while they where trying to stop atrocities by the palestinians and some lebanese factions to exterminate all the catholic Lebanese back in the early 80's?
Where is your outrage about arabs killing arabs, no matter what nationality? They have been doing this for years don't you know?
Where is your outrage about arabs killing arabs, no matter what nationality? They have been doing this for years don't you know?
"According to some of the conservatives here, it sounds like it's fine to beat your wide - as long as she had it coming." -Billvon
QuoteNot me, since you always seem to be asking for translation, and explanation favours in here.
It is just business as usual if you ask me.
Why should I ever ask you?
On what?
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Darius11 12
So what now it’s better because were killing them.
I really don’t know if I should even respond to someone who has used racists derogatory terms when it comes to people in the Middle East. It is obvious you have already made up your mind so I will not waist my precious time.
I do wonder how you would feel if someone used the derogatory term for your people.
I really don’t know if I should even respond to someone who has used racists derogatory terms when it comes to people in the Middle East. It is obvious you have already made up your mind so I will not waist my precious time.
I do wonder how you would feel if someone used the derogatory term for your people.
I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain
You are free to ignore anyone who oppose your point of view for anytime you want. Rest assured i will sleep as well as always.
By all means feel free to ignore my posts until you come back with some arguments to invalidate the post instead of the poster.
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I am sure you will sleep well. You know that you are safe and protected by those same people you are bashing.
By all means feel free to ignore my posts until you come back with some arguments to invalidate the post instead of the poster.
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I am sure you will sleep well. You know that you are safe and protected by those same people you are bashing.
crozby 0
Quotebut driving a car full of children through a check point without stopping is one of the mildest things that they can do.
Do you have any kids? Because I do, and I find it extremely difficult to believe that any parent would deliberately drive at a checkpoint knowing that by doing so they are going to kill their children painfully, or wound them or leave them alone, parentless.
I don't disagree that there are some evil barbaric shit-heads operating over there, but suggesting Iraqis would use their own kids like that smacks of demonisation to me.
juanesky 0
Do as you please, yet you have yet once to be disgusted with arabs killing arabs. As I personally know many Lebanese who are happy about Israel's and US intervention in there before they got murdered.
You fail to see that the term only applies to the radicals, but hey, we can be even, as I also find it dubious your loyalty as an US citizen with your pledged alliance to Iran.
Bwaaa, they have, spic, brown man, and many others too....I laugh.
You fail to see that the term only applies to the radicals, but hey, we can be even, as I also find it dubious your loyalty as an US citizen with your pledged alliance to Iran.
Bwaaa, they have, spic, brown man, and many others too....I laugh.
"According to some of the conservatives here, it sounds like it's fine to beat your wide - as long as she had it coming." -Billvon
i'm glad to see that there are people who are genuinely normal, and find it hard to believe that parents can intentionally harm their children.
that could be due to the fact that you might live in suburbs, deep suburbs, where you see none of the crazy shit.
though, last year i think, in illinois some girl and her husband drawned their kids, couldn't even explain why.
or because you simply judge from your perspective.
the truth is, there are palestinians that encourage their kids to become suicide bombers and kill as many israelis as possible. there are wacked out maniacs in iraq that do it for the same reasons. they all think that it's a goog thing, since they are going to be with allah.
that could be due to the fact that you might live in suburbs, deep suburbs, where you see none of the crazy shit.
though, last year i think, in illinois some girl and her husband drawned their kids, couldn't even explain why.
or because you simply judge from your perspective.
the truth is, there are palestinians that encourage their kids to become suicide bombers and kill as many israelis as possible. there are wacked out maniacs in iraq that do it for the same reasons. they all think that it's a goog thing, since they are going to be with allah.
crozby 0
Quotethe truth is, there are palestinians that encourage their kids to become suicide bombers and kill as many israelis as possible. there are wacked out maniacs in iraq that do it for the same reasons. they all think that it's a goog thing, since they are going to be with allah.
I think Palestine is different. The situation there has been going on for decades. Palestinians have conditioned themselves over time to find suicide bombings by family members, including children, to be somehow necessary and acceptable.
The insurgents primarily consist of SH supporting Baathists and foreign fighters. I very much doubt that foreign fighters have brought their children to Iraq in order to blow them up at check points.
The Baathists had a good life under SH. They had jobs and their kids went to school. I can't see how people that essentially lived lives like you and I would turn into the sort of people that would murder their own kids for political gain in only a year or so.
With regard to religion, Iraq was a secular state. Saddam tolerated religion, even pretended to be religeous when it suited him politically, but Iraq was never the kind of place that would have people queuing up to blow themselves up in order to be with their God.
If what you say is true - that Iraqis are using children to attack the coallition - why haven't the press picked up on it? Afterall, you've got to admit, it is the kind of story they would love to tell.
[Flame retardant: SH is a shit-head, so are suicide bombers, etc. etc.]
Darius11 12
LOL
Dude i am going to use that
Quote[Flame retardant: SH is a shit-head, so are suicide bombers, etc. etc.]
Dude i am going to use that
I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain
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"I can't see how people that essentially lived lives like you and I would turn into the sort of people that would murder their own kids for political gain in only a year or so."
they are very different from you and me. and their lives are very differnt as well.
well, it has been almost 15 years.
15 years of gassing, butchering and just starving to death due to u.s. policies alone.
there are many locals that attack solders because some bomb fell on their house and killed one of their family, and they are just plain pissed.
let's not forget, that to some, this war is a war against muslims. to a radical muslim to sacrifice his family in order to demonstrate u.s. brutality, which in turn will convince other muslims to join a holy war which is to lead to global muslim domination which is al qaeda's goal, would be a honorable deed.
majority of iraqis are poor and uneducated. convincing some of those people to drive through a check point would not be difficult. they would not even have to know what they are doing. tell them stories how solders rape women and children at check points, and that will do the job.
it has been done, and will likely repeat in the future.
as far as media, their job is to report facts.
(unless it's heraldo)
they did that, since we are having this discussion. interpretation and analysis is left to us.
i'll give you an example of what some iraqi parents do.
they send kids to collect amo, unexploded shells. do you know how these kids take shells apart?
they bang on them with rocks and metal pipes.
many die doing it. after that their parents sell that crap. and this is not even for high ideals, only for a few penies.
"I can't see how people that essentially lived lives like you and I would turn into the sort of people that would murder their own kids for political gain in only a year or so."
they are very different from you and me. and their lives are very differnt as well.
well, it has been almost 15 years.
15 years of gassing, butchering and just starving to death due to u.s. policies alone.
there are many locals that attack solders because some bomb fell on their house and killed one of their family, and they are just plain pissed.
let's not forget, that to some, this war is a war against muslims. to a radical muslim to sacrifice his family in order to demonstrate u.s. brutality, which in turn will convince other muslims to join a holy war which is to lead to global muslim domination which is al qaeda's goal, would be a honorable deed.
majority of iraqis are poor and uneducated. convincing some of those people to drive through a check point would not be difficult. they would not even have to know what they are doing. tell them stories how solders rape women and children at check points, and that will do the job.
it has been done, and will likely repeat in the future.
as far as media, their job is to report facts.
(unless it's heraldo)
they did that, since we are having this discussion. interpretation and analysis is left to us.
i'll give you an example of what some iraqi parents do.
they send kids to collect amo, unexploded shells. do you know how these kids take shells apart?
they bang on them with rocks and metal pipes.
many die doing it. after that their parents sell that crap. and this is not even for high ideals, only for a few penies.
It is just business as usual if you ask me.
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