freedom, or to each his own?

[freeflight 0]

almost in every other post i read somebody refer to or mention freedom in one way or another.
same goes for broadcasters.

without saying it's democracy, can anyone expand on what it is?

just want to hear what is our communitys take on the subject.

[freakbrother 0]

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almost in every other post i read somebody refer to or mention freedom in one way or another.
same goes for broadcasters.

without saying it's democracy, can anyone expand on what it is?

just want to hear what is our communitys take on the subject.

Yes, it's the rallying call for the far right that has replaced WMD scares.

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[billvon 3,071]

>can anyone expand on what it is?

There are two parts to it - freedom to do things and freedom _from_ things. Anarchy is the ultimate in freedom to do things; you can do whatever you want. A totalitarian state is freedom _from_ things - they will keep you safe from outside forces, aggression, alien ideas, upsetting images etc. Most societies strike a balance between the two. You are fairly free to do what you want here in the US, but you can't beat someone else up, take his stuff, or hurt him indirectly. Those losses of personal freedom are necessary to ensure other people's freedom from aggression. It's an extension to the "your right to swing your fist stops at my nose."

[crozby 0]

Bush mentioned freedom about a trillion times in his speech yesterday. Do people here think personal freedom in the USA will be increased or decreased during his second term?

[gkc1436 3]

going from his track record....
i could see house to house searchs making sure every one has bibles and that they only use the missionary position without condoms

[Botellines 0]

nope, the church forbade two days ago the condom again, so no condoms in the misionary position. After all aids is a gay sickness...

In other order of things, by definition, you cannot impose freedom on anyone, so i don´t know how he is going to acomplish that mission.

[shropshire 0]

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the church forbade two days ago the condom again

- That would only be THE Roman Catholic CHURCH.

which brings me to mind of Monthy Python (again).



There are Jews in the world, there are Buddhists
There are Hindus, and Mormons, and then
There are those that follow Mohammed BUT
I've never been one of them.

I'm a Roman Catholic
And have been since before I was born
And the one thing they say about Catholics is
They'll take you as soon as you're warm

You don't have to be a six footer
You don't have to have a great brain
You don't have to have any clothes on
You're a Catholic the moment Dad came
Because...

Every sperm is sacred
Every sperm is great
If a sperm is wasted
God gets quite irate

Every sperm is sacred
Every sperm is great
If a sperm is wasted
God gets quite irate

Let the heathen spill theirs
On the dusty ground
God shall make them pay
For each sperm that can't be found

Every sperm is wanted
Every sperm is good
Every sperm is needed
In your neighborhood

Hindu, Taoist, Mormon
Spill theirs just anywhere
But God loves those who treat their
Semen with more care

Every sperm is sacred
Every sperm is great
If a sperm is wasted
God gets quite irate

Every sperm is sacred
Every sperm is good
Every sperm is needed
In your neighborhood

Every sperm is useful
Every sperm is fine
God needs everybody's
Mine, and mine, and mine

Let the pagans spill theirs
O'er mountain, hill and plain
God shall strike them down for
Each sperm that's spilt in vain

Every sperm is sacred
Every sperm is good
Every sperm is needed
In your neighborhood

Every sperm is sacred
Every sperm is great
If a sperm is wasted
God gets quite irate

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Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome

[Jimbo 0]

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After all aids is a gay sickness... Crazy

I haven't followed that particular issue, but my guess is that the church forbids the use of condoms because they are a form of birth control and that it has nothing to do with your "gay sickness".

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Jim

"Like" - The modern day comma
Good bye, my friends. You are missed.

[Kennedy 0]

Freedom is unrestricted, unmitigated ability to do as you please.

Liberty is the right to throw a punch, but the right stops at the other guys nose.

Freedom is often misused, as is "terrorism" and "tragedy." I've given up on trying to save the english language. I'm just going to keep using it correctly and helping anyone who asks.

witty subliminal message
Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards.
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[Botellines 0]

Three days ago, a spanish bishop said literally that the use of comdoms has its context in the prevention of the further spread of aids. Pretty much he said that if you are going to do it, at least put a comdom on. 23 hours later the Vatican forced him to rectify and the condoms are banned once again.
Regarding the aids being a gay sickness, you would be surprised what is said in some radical christian circles. I had a teacher once that not only implied that about aids and gays but also he said that being gay is a form of illness like down sindrome.

[Kennedy 0]

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I had a teacher once that not only implied that about aids and gays but also he said that being gay is a form of illness like down sindrome.

That was held to be true by most pyschiatric associations until the 1970s when the APA removed it from the list. Everyone else followed suit shortly thereafter. There are still some that have some really "interesting" views on the subject, just like every other.

witty subliminal message
Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards.
1*

[Jimbo 0]

When I said that I was unfamiliar with the story I meant that I hadn't followed it in depth. Like most everyone else, I"ve seen the headlines.

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Three days ago, a spanish bishop said literally that the use of comdoms has its context in the prevention of the further spread of aids. Pretty much he said that if you are going to do it, at least put a comdom on. 23 hours later the Vatican forced him to rectify and the condoms are banned once again.

I am aware of that. The church, however, has had a ban on condoms long before AIDS came along and will likely continue to do so long after AIDS is gone (cured). My point was that the continuation of the ban on condoms has nothing to do with AIDS and everything to do with birth control. Your insinuation that the church is keeping the ban on condoms as some sort of plot to continue the spread of AIDS is without merit.

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Regarding the aids being a gay sickness, you would be surprised what is said in some radical christian circles.

It's a mistsake to listen to the radical or extreme sides of any group and then apply their teachings to the group as a whole, don't you think?

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Jim

"Like" - The modern day comma
Good bye, my friends. You are missed.

[penniless 0]

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I am aware of that. The church, however, has had a ban on condoms long before AIDS came along and will likely continue to do so long after AIDS is gone (cured). My point was that the continuation of the ban on condoms has nothing to do with AIDS and everything to do with birth control. Your insinuation that the church is keeping the ban on condoms as some sort of plot to continue the spread of AIDS is without merit.

You are correct. It's not a conspiracy, it's just a total lack of awareness in a male dominated oligarchy to the needs of 51% of the human race. They just don't have a clue.

[JohnRich 4]

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Yes, it's the rallying call for the far right that has replaced WMD scares.

Oh my, that's terrible. You better give up all of yours now, so you won't be seen as one of them.

[ACMESkydiver 0]

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It's a mistsake to listen to the radical or extreme sides of any group and then apply their teachings to the group as a whole, don't you think?

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Jim

Me likes Jimbo.

~Jaye
Do not believe that possibly you can escape the reward of your action.

[gkc1436 3]

wait ...wait....

if your a priest.....you have freedoms with young boys!!!!