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Abu Musab al-Zarqawi condemned democracy as "the big American lie"

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http://www.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/meast/01/23/iraq.main/index.html

So now Democracy is an AMERICAN thing? Interesting....

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"We have declared a bitter war against democracy and all those who seek to enact it," said the speaker in the 35-minute message.

"Democracy is also based on the right to choose your religion," he said, and that is "against the rule of God."



So HE is making this the Muslims against the rest of the worlds religions... His ass is writing checks his ego won't be able to cash... What a fucking MORON!!

Rhino

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Some Islamic leaders are making this a religious war.

They aren't just nuts, they are leaders.

Islamic leaders that want to live in peace with the unbelievers must be much more vocal if they are to be heard above the Zarqawis of the world.

I hope they can learn to speak up.
People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am

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So now Democracy is an AMERICAN thing? Interesting....



I think its greek actually.

I do agree that any sort of 'democracy' in iraq will no doubt have to be vetted by the U.S who will (more than likely) just install a client regime (see puppet government) and that ends up being a 'big american lie' , so yeah he's right.

I dont care for the religous rant, i dont care what religion.

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Like I said in the Iraqi Elections thread:

Islam is a religion that includes detailed laws on conduct and in effect the church IS the state. You cannot have an Islamic democracy. You can only have a Theocracy or a Monarchy!

As such, IF the (fairly strict) Shi'ite majority in Iraq have their way, then what you will see is a democratic vote AGAINST democracy!

Another way to look at it is to visualise Europe in Mediaeval times, when to all intents & purposes the church was the state and the Monarch was looked on as having a divine (god-given) right to rule - WITH the blessing of the Church. Of course, that was when Christianity was only about 1,300 years old, unlike today when it's Islam that's about 1,300 years old.

Mike.

Taking the piss out of the FrenchAmericans since before it was fashionable.

Prenait la pisse hors du FrançaisCanadiens méridionaux puisqu'avant lui à la mode.

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hey, screw them, they got no chance anyway.
most people want to have sex with fourty virgins now. i don't know how many virgins they think they get when they are dead, but people want all the shit in their present existence.
we should bomb middle east with textbooks on evolution
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hey, screw them, they got no chance anyway.
most people want to have sex with fourty virgins now. i don't know how many virgins they think they get when they are dead, but people want all the shit in their present existence.
we should bomb middle east with textbooks on evolution
:ph34r:



Who the hell would want 72 virgins anyway? I mean if I was going to be in heaven I'd want women with experience, not some pre-teen who had to be taught the basics. What happens after a few thousand years when you get tired of the same 72 women night after night, year after year? I mean a mans going to get tired eventually of even 72 women given enough time. I wonder if they get to start wife swapping?

And what do the female homocide bombers get? The same 72 female virgins? That would make them lesbians which would be against the teachings of Allah so they wouldn't go to heaven anyway. So what do the female bombers get out of it?

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Come on!!! add some beer and weed ...



Even as a joke, that some people think being drunk and stoned is a 'paradise' is nuts.

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>So now Democracy is an AMERICAN thing?

Yep. Just like we associate Islamic theocracy with terrorism, they associate democracy with the occupational force in their country.

>So HE is making this the Muslims against the rest of the worlds religions...

Really? See if you can identify these quotes:

"I am the LORD thy God; thou shalt have no other gods before me."

"Be it known unto you all, and to all the people of Israel, that by the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, whom ye crucified, whom God raised from the dead, even by him doth this man stand here before you whole...Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved."

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