Iraq Voter Turnout Placed at 72 Percent

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I for one couldn't be more proud of the Iraqi people for voting. I watched on the news as they danced in the streets celebrating! It was great to watch!

Well done troops.. Well done Iraqi people... The insurgents are loosing their foothold in a big way.

Holy Moses!
Wishful thinking, childish faith.
Embarrassing.

dudeist skydiver # 3105

[skydyvr 0]

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must suck to be a nay sayer today eh?

It's a gut-wrenching dillema for the naysayers.

On one hand, in their hearts, the possible democratization and freedom of millions of Iraqis might be a good thing. Maybe. Sort of.

On the other hand, to accomplish this will require ttat Bush be given credit for having done something right.

Somehow, it's a tough choice: stand in favor and support of the freedom of millions, or continue to discourage success in pursuit of the hatred of one man.

Jesse Jackson was on the tube yesterday naysaying the elections. "Yea, well, it could be considered a good thing to have elections I guess, but this gunpoint democracy ain't never gonna work". What a wad.

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Embarrassing.

yes to be one of the nay sayers it must be.

[Trent 0]

Great news for the Iraqi people determined to make their country better. It was very nice to watch the people in the coverage this morning and last night.

Despite what you may think, Christel, there was dancing and celebrating and many many smiles. Despite what you may think, the best remedy for the terrorism problem in Iraq is having a strong, representative government and a people who are ready for the nonsense to stop.

What exactly are you not happy about in this situation? Or is it just that you like to be contrarian?

Oh, hello again!

[EBSB52 0]

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And things won't revert when the US troops pullout? Mhhh-huh. Didn't we learn from Rusia's trip to Afghanistan?

funny thing is I never remember them having free and open election in afghanistan, nor dancing in the streets. When the "USSR" was there. Can you give me a link on that? I didn't think so.

Dancing in the streets is even mentionable? That's what I love aboutthe other side - they get fascinated by semantics and symolism

Point is, when we're gone things will return to the way they were. If the resistance fighters can give the US troops the fight of their life, just think what they can do to the Iraqi police.

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funny how everyone but you and maybe kerry think this is a good thing?

I think it's a bit shortsighted to think there is no chance of a civil war or other dissention leading to unrest. BTW, there are plenty of people that think this isn't such a great thing. By that I mean the war and the entire thing.

[christelsabine 1]

Believe me, I am happy about every and any improvement done in the Iraq affair. But same time, this morning the news said your president GWB, the glorious one, will increase number of his troops over there. And how!

What is nice in this?

Does really anyone believe that anything is won only by showing few nice pics in the news? We had many Iraqis voting here in my hometown. They were happy to vote. Of course, under police observation, it still is dangerous to vote as an Iraqi. And in TV, I saw Iraqis voting in Iraq. They seemed to be happy to vote, too. That is fully OK.

But:

Does really anyone believe the killings are over? From one day to the next? NO, it will increase same way like US troop numbers will be increased. What do you, not personally "you", do expect after votings in Iraq? What will be changed?

Tell me. Tell me, before starting to dance around a bonfire too early.

dudeist skydiver # 3105

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An Iraqi election official said ...

nuff said...
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would you please step up and tell us what you mean by this statement. nuff said....

You can't figure that out? Bias, my friend. Bias in the media is everything. Watch the same story as told by CNN and then by Fox and it will seem diametrically opposite.

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And things won't revert when the US troops pullout? Mhhh-huh. Didn't we learn from Rusia's trip to Afghanistan?

Congratulations on being the first liberal to drop a turd into a post dedicated to a very positive event.

Thanks for being just another of the many conservatives to drop a piece of crap disguised as a flower over the thousands of dead US soldiers, allied soldiers, and Iraqi civilians as if there will ultimately be a positive outcome.

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Point is, when we're gone things will return to the way they were.

Do you think that we're just planning on packing up and leaving tomorrow? We'll (or another overseer) be there for years, or longer if that's what it takes, monitoring, helping, guiding until there is a STABLE democracy in Iraq.

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Good bye, my friends. You are missed.

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and are there for their own aggenda which have little to do with voter turn outs or the free will of people to determine thier own future.
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actually a big part of their agenda was preventing people from voting, and they failed miserably, the iraqi people wouldn't let the insurgents threaten them out of deciding their future

History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or the timid.
--Dwight D. Eisenhower

[Jimbo 0]

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Thanks for being just another of the many conservatives to drop a piece of crap disguised as a flower over the thousands of dead US soldiers, allied soldiers, and Iraqi civilians as if there will ultimately be a positive outcome.

Do you go through life wearing shit colored glasses? Is there anything that can make you happy?

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Good bye, my friends. You are missed.

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You can't figure that out? Bias, my friend. Bias in the media is everything. Watch the same story as told by CNN and then by Fox and it will seem diametrically opposite.***

just because cnn agrees with you doesn't make it right.

also i'm not going to sit here and try and figure out that twisted propaganda you put out most of the time, reach down grab em and sound off with what youare saying, or is it that you can make no real argument and you just want to get your post numbers up

History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or the timid.
--Dwight D. Eisenhower

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But same time, this morning the news said your president GWB, the glorious one, will increase number of his troops over there. And how!

What is nice in this?

Well one nice thing is that we are showing committment to helping the Iraqis get themselves set up on a secure and democratic path.

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Does really anyone believe that anything is won only by showing few nice pics in the news?

No, but apparently plenty of people can be convinced that all is lost because of some pictures and articles in the news. No one thinks that the troubles are over, no one here has said that.

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Does really anyone believe the killings are over? From one day to the next? NO, it will increase same way like US troop numbers will be increased. What do you, not personally "you", do expect after votings in Iraq? What will be changed?

No, like I just said, it won't be all roses and happy times just because of this vote. BUT, it is a big step in the right direction, and it showed that Iraqis are determined, in the face of danger, to have control over their own destinies. What do I expect after? More steps in the right direction, one step at a time.

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Tell me. Tell me, before starting to dance around a bonfire too early.

As usual, I find it hard to understand what you mean by this. People are happy for the Iraqis. You and a few others seemed to have a problem with it. Who's dancing around the bonfire?

Oh, hello again!

[GQ_jumper 4]

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Point is, when we're gone things will return to the way they were. If the resistance fighters can give the US troops the fight of their life, just think what they can do to the Iraqi police.

[EBSB52 0]

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Point is, when we're gone things will return to the way they were.

Do you think that we're just planning on packing up and leaving tomorrow? We'll (or another overseer) be there for years, or longer if that's what it takes, monitoring, helping, guiding until there is a STABLE democracy in Iraq.

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You mean drag out long like Viet Nam - I agree. Thing is, early projections are for 2007, we all know it will be longer. This will be a drug-out ordeal like VN; can you assert otherwise?

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Thanks for being just another of the many conservatives to drop a piece of crap disguised as a flower over the thousands of dead US soldiers, allied soldiers, and Iraqi civilians as if there will ultimately be a positive outcome.

Do you go through life wearing shit colored glasses? Is there anything that can make you happy?

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As I've said all along - it's the conservatives causing the crap here and then getting away with it.

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You can't figure that out? Bias, my friend. Bias in the media is everything. Watch the same story as told by CNN and then by Fox and it will seem diametrically opposite.***

just because cnn agrees with you doesn't make it right.

also i'm not going to sit here and try and figure out that twisted propaganda you put out most of the time, reach down grab em and sound off with what youare saying, or is it that you can make no real argument and you just want to get your post numbers up

just because cnn agrees with you doesn't make it right.

I'm not saying that, I was referring to the same story being told from a different bias - comes off 180 out.

also i'm not going to sit here and try and figure out that twisted propaganda you put out most of the time, reach down grab em and sound off with what youare saying, or is it that you can make no real argument and you just want to get your post numbers up

OK, acquiescence noted.

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Point is, when we're gone things will return to the way they were.

Do you think that we're just planning on packing up and leaving tomorrow? We'll (or another overseer) be there for years, or longer if that's what it takes, monitoring, helping, guiding until there is a STABLE democracy in Iraq.

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You mean drag out long like Viet Nam - I agree. Thing is, early projections are for 2007, we all know it will be longer. This will be a drug-out ordeal like VN; can you assert otherwise?

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were you expecting another grenada?

History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or the timid.
--Dwight D. Eisenhower

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Point is, when we're gone things will return to the way they were. If the resistance fighters can give the US troops the fight of their life, just think what they can do to the Iraqi police.

and you know about what kind of fight they are putting up how? we are rolling over them, i have never had an insurgent give me what i would call the fight of my life, most of them give up when they see what they are up against. even the iraqi police are holding their own against the insurgents. if you knew the amount of attacks that happened today, and compared them to the number of casualties, you'd see what i was talking about, these iraqis are starting to hold their own
without us, they are a lot more ready than we give them credit for to take the lead on this

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Point is, when we're gone things will return to the way they were.

Do you think that we're just planning on packing up and leaving tomorrow? We'll (or another overseer) be there for years, or longer if that's what it takes, monitoring, helping, guiding until there is a STABLE democracy in Iraq.

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You mean drag out long like Viet Nam - I agree. Thing is, early projections are for 2007, we all know it will be longer. This will be a drug-out ordeal like VN; can you assert otherwise?

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were you expecting another grenada?

Who knows, but ethnocentric attitudes/actions don't work longrun. Well, maybe the American Indian prety much fell to it, but as far as other countries - no.

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Thanks for being just another of the many conservatives to drop a piece of crap disguised as a flower over the thousands of dead US soldiers, allied soldiers, and Iraqi civilians as if there will ultimately be a positive outcome.

Well, at least you can keep hoping there won't be a positive outcome . . .

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Latest figures from the Beeb -

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Electoral officials estimated that up to eight million Iraqis voted - more than 60% of those registered.

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Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome

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Latest figures from the Beeb -

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Electoral officials estimated that up to eight million Iraqis voted - more than 60% of those registered.

That's better than any of the recent US elections.

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That's better than any of the recent US elections.

Which bugs the shit out of me. Especially when some of the non-voters go walking around claiming how great democracy is. Most of them couldn't tell democracy from a dairy cow!

"For once you have tasted Absinthe you will walk the earth with your eyes turned towards the gutter, for there you have been and there you will long to return."