justinb138 0 #1 April 7, 2005 Quote TALLAHASSEE, Fla. (Reuters) - People in Florida will be allowed to kill in self-defense on the street without trying to flee under a new law passed by state politicians on Tuesday that critics say will bring a Wild West mentality and innocent deaths. The Florida House of Representatives, citing the need to allow people to "stand their ground," voted 94-20 to codify and expand court rulings that already allow people to use deadly force to protect themselves in their homes without first trying to escape. The new bill goes further by allowing citizens to use deadly force in a public place if they have a reasonable belief they are in danger of death or great bodily harm. It applies to all means of force that may result in death, although the legislative debate focused on guns. The "Stand Your Ground" bill passed the Senate last week on a 39-0 vote and now goes to Republican Gov. Jeb Bush, who indicated he will sign it. "This is about meeting force with force," said House sponsor Republican state Rep. Dennis Baxley of Ocala. "If I'm attacked, I should not have to retreat." Full Store Here: http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=573&ncid=757&e=10&u=/nm/20050405/od_nm/crime_florida_dc Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jimbo 0 #2 April 7, 2005 That's stale news. I'm surprised it took so long to make it here. Edit: Oh, the humanity! Won't someone think of the children! Blood running in the streets! blah, blah blah . . . - Jim"Like" - The modern day comma Good bye, my friends. You are missed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kennedy 0 #3 April 7, 2005 Actually I'm pretty sure it's been discussed, maybe even had its own thread here in the Corner. I'm just tired of callng on deputy Ivan. witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1* Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron 10 #4 April 7, 2005 QuoteTALLAHASSEE, Fla. (Reuters) - People in Florida will be allowed to kill in self-defense on the street without trying to flee under a new law passed by state politicians on Tuesday that critics say will bring a Wild West mentality and innocent deaths. Yeah, just like the carry laws did. QuoteThe Florida House of Representatives, citing the need to allow people to "stand their ground," voted 94-20 to codify and expand court rulings that already allow people to use deadly force to protect themselves in their homes without first trying to escape. I agree you should not have to try and escape your home. QuoteThe new bill goes further by allowing citizens to use deadly force in a public place if they have a reasonable belief they are in danger of death or great bodily harm. It applies to all means of force that may result in death, although the legislative debate focused on guns. To be honest not so hot on this one....While I agree with it... [Miaggi voice]The best defense is not be there[/Miaggi voice] I would rather people in public be encouraged to try and escape before violence is permitted....After that, or if there is no chance to escape....Then its a good shoot."No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jimbo 0 #5 April 7, 2005 QuoteI would rather people in public be encouraged to try and escape before violence is permitted....After that, or if there is no chance to escape....Then its a good shoot. Most gun owners I know would try to escape first. Hell, of all the gun owners I know the last thing anyone wants to do is to have to actually use their weapon in self-defense. I think it's a good law though, simply one more option. - Jim"Like" - The modern day comma Good bye, my friends. You are missed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,590 #6 April 7, 2005 Many years ago I read Massad Ayoob's "In the Gravest Extreme". In that book he pointed out that the "Duty to Retreat" (using the NRA's term), varies from state to state. The only way to know if your state requires it, is to read your state's code on self-defense. If you find a section that spells out a "Duty to Retreat", then it is required in your state. If you can't find it, then you are probably in a "stand your ground" state. The easiest way to find it is to search your state's code via Lexus-Nexus. For example, after wading though the code of CO, I finally searched the Lexus-Nexus site and found an assortment of court findings in the annotations which spelled out that CO has no requirement of retreat."There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kennedy 0 #7 April 7, 2005 Edjamucation.... ain't it grand?witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1* Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
