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what's w/ you and this "being pelted w/ dead cats" business? I didn't peg your for a missionary-only man, but I also didn't anticipate this level of kink!
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I don't know, but I'm glad he's not in my anatomy class; we have dead cats all over the place right now, and I don't really want to be pelted with them.

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I don't know, but I'm glad he's not in my anatomy class; we have dead cats all over the place right now, and I don't really want to be pelted with them.



I think the most important point that we're all missing though is how well can you swing them?

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I don't know, but I'm glad he's not in my anatomy class; we have dead cats all over the place right now, and I don't really want to be pelted with them.



I think the most important point that we're all missing though is how well can you swing them?



I think pretty well after rigor mortis is gone... but if you want 'em to hurt more when you're pelted, might wanna freeze them first.

at least he's not into being pelted w/ live cats...

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You're right, if an unknown woman entered my house and did that, I'd have a different take on things. I'd probably call the cops because there's a bigger problem.

I'm not talking about biological or legal differences. There were no biological or legal distinctions here. My point was about social differences, which there are many between men and women.



Yes there are and don't you think it's about time we started addressing these inequalities?

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Differences are not necessarily inequalities.

My whole purpose of posting in the first place had more to do with how men conduct themselves and not with how women are treated. Men and women are different, and I'd expect a man to act differently than a woman in certain situations, but that's just my opinion & I'm sticking to it.:)


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> Men and women are different, and I'd expect a man to act
>differently than a woman in certain situations,

Definitely. But then again, men and men are different (as are women and women.) I'd expect differences between, say, a male and female skydiver from Chicago, but I'd expect a far bigger difference between a female skydiver from Chicago and a female textile worker who moved to the US from China. The important part is that all those people are the same in the eyes of the law.

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In post 13 you seemed to be suggesting that we should accept double standards in the legal realm.
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Double standards? Life is full of double standards. Men and women are different in case you hadn't noticed. And women, in certain instances, like the double standard (as well they should). Get used to it.



If you agree that men and women should be held to the same standard in teh eyes of the law, as you implied in post 85, then we've been arguing for nothing.

However, if you think that a man is wrong for filing charges when he suffers unwanted sexual acts, but a woman is justified in filing charges for those same acts, then you are suggesting double standards, and could agree a great deal more with Bill.
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Read my posts from the beginning. There was no suggestion of double legal standards. In fact, in a later post I specifically indicated I wasn't referring to a different legal distinction between men and women. You're reading what you want to read into the post. Not the first time you've done that.

There are social double standards between men and women. Why do you think men hold doors open for women and not vice versa? My opinion was the guy filing the charges was a pussy. Now, if there was something more involved, like the lady was a stalker, that's a different matter.


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at least he's not into being pelted w/ live cats...



i once met someone who claimed (in a "i'm kinkier than you" discussion) to be into cold showers with live cats.....i'd almost pay money to see that....except i'd feel sorry for the cats.. what with the consentual issues and all.. ;)
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i once met someone who claimed (in a "i'm kinkier than you" discussion) to be into cold showers with live cats.....i'd almost pay money to see that....except i'd feel sorry for the cats.. what with the consentual issues and all.. ;)



Hey, my cat used to get in the shower with me, and I didn't think I was being kinky. But then she was a Bengal cat and they like water, so I didn't get the "cat trying to reach higher ground" effect that non-water-loving cats might produce.

So... Do you have a lot of "I'm kinkier than you" discussions? :P

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Those are the ones that were bred with asian big cats, right?

They're about the size of medium dogs, and they seem to act more like dogs than cats, plus they've still got some 'hunter' in them.

If I ever had a cat, that'd be it (assuming I've got the right cat and I'm not making a fool of myself) :P

edit: Nope, I've got the right one
http://www.donamae.com/images/lexus.jpg
(no, that's not me and I have no idea who it is)
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I think you've got the right cat... They're bred with Asian Leopard Cats (about three generations down). They do act a lot like dogs. She was very good at playing fetch, and I used to take her for walks on the nature trail behind my home. And yes, she was a little bit too good of a hunter; since she had a pet door, I would often return home to find animal parts all over the floor (I'm now an expert at removing bloodstains from carpet).

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Nope, it's been hijacked by a dog-lover who's finally found a cat he likes. :P

I live in the house of upside down puppies. :D
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So... Do you have a lot of "I'm kinkier than you" discussions? :P



yea its been known to happen... meet a girl in a bar, start talking to her, some other guy overhears part of the conversation and chimes in with "yea?well I....."

its sort of like what happens when random bar dude finds out a pretty girl skydives...;)
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my opinion is

A. If they were spending the night together, and the woman felt close enough to ummmm bj him while he was asleep then it wouldnt be rape

B. Im wondering if he ummmmm "finished" and if so how is that rape? Or if he reacted ummm physicually isnt that implied consent.

Do we as a society need to not only sign waviers for DZs but also for any sexual contact.

ie : I lisamarie agree to ummmm do this that and the other without prejeduce and if I dont want to be woken up with oral I will then in turn push you head away...

What will it take? I am sorry, but I think that was a BS story and lawsuit
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>B. Im wondering if he ummmmm "finished" and if so how is that rape?

Because whether the man (or the woman) has an orgasm has nothing to do with whether it's rape or not. Imagine the trial - "she clearly enjoyed it, so my client cannot be guilty of rape."

>Or if he reacted ummm physicually isnt that implied consent.

No.

>Do we as a society need to not only sign waviers for DZs but also for
>any sexual contact.

If communication is so bad that one person can't figure out what the other person is OK with, then signing something would be a very good idea. 99.9% of the time people can figure it out.

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No where did I read where he said no, no where did I read he attempted to stop her, so technicually no it isnt rape. and yes if he or she in that matter enjoyed it then it cant be rape, if a girl likes to be spanked but it hurts but she enjoyed it does that make it sexual assualt NOPE it doesnt.

A person can not "get off" without enjoyment, I think this is a case of Ouch that coffee is hot just like I thought it would be , here let me sue
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So... Do you have a lot of "I'm kinkier than you" discussions? :P



yea its been known to happen... meet a girl in a bar, start talking to her, some other guy overhears part of the conversation and chimes in with "yea?well I....."



Hmm, I don't think I've ever had a guy hit on me by coming up to me in a bar and start telling me what kind of kinky stuff he's into... But now that I think about it, that might get my attention. I like people who just get to the point... At least that would be more interesting than the standard "So, do you come here often?" line.

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