So we got rid of Sadam.....Was it worth it?

[AndyMan 7]

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Another 80 billion in the pot today bringing us to almost a quarter of a trillion dollars and over a thousand deaths and counting. I forgot to mention the many thousands seriously wounded-

Don't forget the dead innocent Iraqi's.

It's tough to find good numbers, but some estimates put it well into the hundreds of thousands. If true, that means nearly as many Iraqi's were killed after the "liberation" as Hussein is accused of killing in the first place. More conservative estimates are 20,000.

Iraq has been a cluster-fuck since day one because the hawks insisted on doing it "their way". What makes it worse is that America (and other western countries) are constantly passing up viable, meaningful, and important tasks around the world, only because they don't have "interests" (read: oil) in the region.

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You put the fun in "funnel" - craichead.

[Alias 0]

I'll agree to a certain extent - however, I'm coming to the conclusion that the role for the US Armed Forces should not be Global police/rescue/enforcemnet

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[juanesky 0]

Alias, You should do further research of Venezuela and its current president, his current policies trying to Cubanize that country, and the only nation leader visiting Saddam and Lybia's greatests in one of his tours.

IMO Europe is fighting to gain some power in the world stage, hence the unification of the Euro, and technically the Anti US propaganda has reached epidemic proportions, to the point where (and please try to see the irony here) a lot of foreigners would love to come here to live!, yet at the same time dispising all what the US is about.

IE: the latin american-arab reunion in Brazil, where the tone was to shift world power and condemn Israel of an occupation that dates to a 1967 war, started by whom? the arabs....

"According to some of the conservatives here, it sounds like it's fine to beat your wide - as long as she had it coming." -Billvon

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Hell no, that sand *&^% wasn't worth one American Life.


BUSH IS A DICK FOR THIS and the US will be paying for a long time.

[crozby 0]

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the Pentagon ended up coming out that said the bean counters felt a dead US solider would have been worth it had that soldier saved 80,000 Rwandan people.

80,000 to 1. Wow!!!!

And what's so funny is that ordinary Americans fail to understand why so many billions of people world-wide think the USA is a bunch of self-serving egotistical wankers.

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But again, he was attempting to switch, a coup disrupted it, for the time being.

The effect of an OPEC switch to the euro would be that oil-consuming nations would have to flush dollars out of their reserve funds and replace these with euros. The dollar would crash anywhere from 20-40% in value and the consequences would be those one could expect from any currency collapse and massive inflation (think Argentina currency crisis, for example). You'd have foreign funds stream out of the U.S. stock markets and dollar denominated assets, there'd surely be a run on the banks much like the 1930s, the current account deficit would become unserviceable, the budget deficit would go into default, and so on. Your basic 3rd world economic crisis scenario.

And yes, Cuba - The Bush Admin may be concerned that Chavez’s “barter deals” with 12 Latin American countries as well as Cuba are effectively cutting the U.S. dollar out of the vital oil transaction currency cycle. Commodities are being traded among these countries in exchange for Venezuela’s oil, and thus dollars are not being used in these barter agreements. If these unique oil transactions proliferate, they will create more devaluation pressure on the dollar. Continuing attempts to remove Chavez appear likely.

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[Skyrad 0]

Hey Ian, not fair mate. There are plenty of decent intelligent Americans who don't agree with what their government is doing to their country and to the world. People who don't see a person as an American or a non American, just as a human. There is a distinction between what the government does and what the people belive. Just look at the Iraq situation and what the people of the UK belive about the war and what that twat of a PM has led us into. Having been to America several times I've found loads of good and intelligent people, lableing them all as self serving egotistical wankers is about as realistic as the stiff upper lip Brit who drinks tea at four pm.

When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy.
Lucius Annaeus Seneca

[SkyDekker 1,465]

come on, money has nothing to do with any of this, it is all because of the poor people, think of the poor people.

Sad thing is, many people actually believe that.......

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come on, money has nothing to do with any of this, it is all because of the poor people, think of the poor people.

Sad thing is, many people actually believe that.......

It takes a typical sheep a while to research, debate and eventually see the facts to derive a different opinion- no offence to anyone - I feel we are all treated as sheeps by the current administration...baaaaa aaaaa aaaa

And that pisses me off more then anything!

Carpe Diem

[crozby 0]

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Having been to America several times I've found loads of good and intelligent people, lableing them all as self serving egotistical wankers is about as realistic as the stiff upper lip Brit who drinks tea at four pm.

Just because you don't have that point of view (neither do I) doesn't mean you need to pretend that billions of others don't. They clearly do.

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The only way we are going to "get" Bin Laden is to go into Pakistan along the border with Afganistan. This will in effect constitute an invasion of a foreign country(I can hear the screams now).