waltappel 1 #1 May 17, 2005 I just realized that one of my favorite topics, slavery reparations has not been in the news for a while. Has anyone run across any news about the movement recently? Walt Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jdhill 0 #2 May 18, 2005 Hopefully, that entire "movement" is off pounding sand up their collective ass... JAll that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing. - Edmund Burke Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tcnelson 1 #3 May 18, 2005 yeah, i was gonna say that that movement probably died due to lack of public support but, jd's statement probably sums up a whole bunch of peoples' feelings on the subject. "Don't talk to me like that assface...I don't work for you yet." - Fletch NBFT, Deseoso Rodriguez RB#1329 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
waltappel 1 #4 May 18, 2005 QuoteHopefully, that entire "movement" is off pounding sand up their collective ass... J Apparently you are not one of those enlightened people who have come to realize that everything is Whitey's fault. Walt Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EBSB52 0 #5 May 18, 2005 QuoteI just realized that one of my favorite topics, slavery reparations has not been in the news for a while. Has anyone run across any news about the movement recently? Walt In order for slavery reparations to be warranted, it would need to be proven that whitey money earned on the backs of black slaves was exclusively or generally passed down and there is some inherited white monetary advantage. I must give it to the African-Americans tho, they were less damaged than the American Indian, yet they have built an empire of benefits that surpass the latter. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pajarito 0 #6 May 18, 2005 QuoteApparently you are not one of those enlightened people who have come to realize that everything is Whitey's fault. Walt Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #7 May 18, 2005 QuoteI must give it to the African-Americans tho, they were less damaged than the American Indian, yet they have built an empire of benefits that surpass the latter. True, but the big winners are public education and defense for the biggest scammers in this society - but PC driven policy is closing the gap ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zep 0 #8 May 18, 2005 I would of thought that having the automatic right to American citizenship would of been sufficient reparation. But I suppose thier will always be those who want to have a cake and eat it as well. Gone fishing Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,070 #9 May 18, 2005 >I would of thought that having the automatic right to American >citizenship would of been sufficient reparation. I think every former slave is entitled at least to what the US originally promised them - forty acres and a mule. But what the heck. To make it even more fair, give every former slave 40 acres, a mule, a house and $100,000. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
beowulf 1 #10 May 18, 2005 How many people are there alive that were slaves at one time? Just because someones great great grand dad was a slave doesn't entitle them to anything. At least that is what I think. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron 10 #11 May 18, 2005 QuoteI think every former slave is entitled at least to what the US originally promised them - forty acres and a mule. OK find me some folks that were slaves. Just because your great grandfather was, does not mean you should get somehting now....Especially if you expect to take it from me, who never owned slaves. If fact my family never owned slaves...So why punish me for someone else's crimes?"No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
waltappel 1 #12 May 18, 2005 QuoteQuoteI must give it to the African-Americans tho, they were less damaged than the American Indian, yet they have built an empire of benefits that surpass the latter. True, but the big winners are public education and defense for the biggest scammers in this society - but PC driven policy is closing the gap Can you give some examples? Walt Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,070 #13 May 18, 2005 >OK find me some folks that were slaves. Never met one, myself. >So why punish me for someone else's crimes? ?? I don't know. Why make me eat chili? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron 10 #14 May 18, 2005 Quote>OK find me some folks that were slaves. Never met one, myself. OK neither have I. I have no problem with the people who did bad things being held accountable. My problem is that most "reparations" punish people that had nothing to do with it, but giving something to someone that did not endure the situation. Why make me (who had no slaves, and whoes family had no slaves) pay money to a guy that was not a slave?"No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,070 #15 May 18, 2005 >Why make me (who had no slaves, and whoes family had no slaves) >pay money to a guy that was not a slave? ?? Again, I have no idea. I think it makes sense to give reparation to those who have been harmed (i.e. slaves) and it would make sense to have the people who supported slavery (i.e. the US; it's in our constitution) doing the paying. You are part of the US, and you pay for all our other mistakes, so you would have to pay for this one as well. Since there are no more former slaves around, though, there's really no one to pay. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron 10 #16 May 18, 2005 QuoteI think it makes sense to give reparation to those who have been harmed (i.e. slaves) and it would make sense to have the people who supported slavery (i.e. the US; it's in our constitution) doing the paying.You are part of the US, and you pay for all our other mistakes, so you would have to pay for this one as well. Well then the children of those slaves are as quilty as I am then. They are also US citizens."No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
meltdown 0 #17 May 18, 2005 Since there are no more former slaves around, though, there's really no one to pay. ___________________________________________ Can't we just give it to Jesse Jackson? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,070 #18 May 18, 2005 >Since there are no more former slaves around, though, there's >really no one to pay. Bingo! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #19 May 18, 2005 Quote>Since there are no more former slaves around, though, there's >really no one to pay. Bingo! Now that that's settled can we answer the question? Why make Billvon eat Chili? ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Duckwater 0 #20 May 18, 2005 Quoteforty acres and a mule So we can blame Billvon for the impending mule shortage! What is a mule anyway? Doesn't a horse have to sleep with a donkey, or is it a male neutered donkey, or is a cross between a donkey and a marsupial? I can't remember. -- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lisamariewillbe 1 #21 May 18, 2005 I have ancestors who died because of the Holocaust, I want every German to send me a dollar, that can be my reparations, By the way, I want to now be referred to as Polish American...Sudsy Fist: i don't think i'd ever say this Sudsy Fist: but you're looking damn sudsydoable in this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkydivingNurse 0 #22 May 18, 2005 Prove that I have ever owned a slave and I'll gladly pony up. Was it a terrible chapter of human history? Of course. Are there any former slaves or slave owners these days? Probably not. Non issue. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lisamariewillbe 1 #23 May 18, 2005 I say dont make him eat chili, I swear I had a fat dude sit in front of me on a king air jump, gross guy must have had chili...I say NO CHILI for any manSudsy Fist: i don't think i'd ever say this Sudsy Fist: but you're looking damn sudsydoable in this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lisamariewillbe 1 #24 May 18, 2005 I dont think they actually sleep together, Theres sex involved. Its a donkey and a horse and becasue of that the Mules cant have babies so their worthless, and they taste just like chickenSudsy Fist: i don't think i'd ever say this Sudsy Fist: but you're looking damn sudsydoable in this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Keith 0 #25 May 18, 2005 QuoteProve that I have ever owned a slave and I'll gladly pony up. You'd have to mule up. They weren't offered ponies.Keith Don't Fuck with me Keith - J. Mandeville Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
