Darius11 12 #101 June 3, 2005 So not only our all Muslims “Towel Heads” to you but now we smell too. You would be great for teaching dehumanizing skills in a death camp I think the KKK is recruiting to! do a search on Google.I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sfc 1 #102 June 3, 2005 QuoteNext time you tell someone is lost, check your surroundings as well, as your generally biased comments pro-arab are hardly disguising your increasing hatred towards anything american or israel, blinds any effort for reason to appear at all. You forget to mention to the people in the forum that it is customary for this such a clean culture to wipe their ass with some water and their left hand, no soap? and usually no soap to wash your hands afterwards? And that particularly in many Islamic nation sometimes the body fumes are just plainly unbearable? Talk about a clean religion.... If a Muslim read this he might believe that all Americans despise them in the same way that you do, I assure them that this is not the case. I think the views you have expressed are racist and bigoted. I have never met anyone in person who expressed views such as you. I think you are using this forum as a way to spread hatred of Muslims, why are you doing this, it will not help heal the rift between our culture and the Muslim world, in fact it will only help to perpetuate the violence that is going on at the moment. Do you want the violence to continue, do you get a kick out of seeing dead bodies on the news, do you enjoy seeing the federal deficit climb as we pay for this war? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #103 June 3, 2005 Well, this is going nowhere productive anymore. edit: Maybe you 2 could go to PMs for this. I don't know who started it, but it's certainly an elevation that'll backfire pretty hard ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
juanesky 0 #104 June 3, 2005 QuoteQuoteIf a Muslim read this he might believe that all Americans despise them in the same way that you do, I assure them that this is not the case. The extremist jihadist will use any excuse to resort to murder, and blame everything to US, Israel and the sorts. The sad part is in that part of the world, the ruling seem to be eager to spread the hatred using mosques as a medium for their propaganda. Same propaganda that when arab kill arabs, being muslim or not, there is not a single beep of outrage. Yet suffice that an allegation the a Qura'n was flushed down a toillet, solicits murder in revenge. If you are not able to see how messed up the situation is, then I do not know what will make you see this. Quote I think the views you have expressed are racist and bigoted. Yep, I generalized and that is certainly not appropiate. Not everyone over there does it like that (the wiping thing), but the VAST MAJORITY. In other words, if (insert your personal belief-religion etc here)you wipe your ass with any of your hand, with onle water and nothing else, I will still consider it nasty. I don't see the same issue in Europe where a bidet is so widely used.... Quote I have never met anyone in person who expressed views such as you. I think you are using this forum as a way to spread hatred of Muslims, why are you doing this, it will not help heal the rift between our culture and the Muslim world, in fact it will only help to perpetuate the violence that is going on at the moment. Do you want the violence to continue, do you get a kick out of seeing dead bodies on the news, do you enjoy seeing the federal deficit climb as we pay for this war? You kind of hit the nail in the head, but then again go on a diatribe that follows along the lines "we are the world, we are the children"and are oblivious at what the reality of it all is. It is the Islamic Jihad that had declared war against US, all other religions, and western counntries. This war started over 30 years ago, and keeps on rolling. If they cared enough for reading the facts, they should read at least contemporary history, and their own writers, Maguib Nafouz, Salman Rushdie, and others, and see what they have to write about they culture, theis people, their religion. It is not me that is getting ready for going out in a public place with C4 strapped in my body, and ready to attack a public market. I am one who would like at least to make an effort for this person to stop. What would help is that the muslim will rage war from within their ranks to weed out their own bad seeds. You think that is a real possibility to wait and see? Good luck with that one...."According to some of the conservatives here, it sounds like it's fine to beat your wide - as long as she had it coming." -Billvon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GQ_jumper 4 #105 June 3, 2005 So who is blowing off all these car bombs which aren't against military targets? I'll bet it aint Iraqis. I'd wager it is some third party . Quote too bad i rolled a guy up a few days ago that was an iraqi and was responsible for killing innocent civilians. and i've been doing much the same for the better part f 7 months now. care to try again. And to your question, ousting SH is our legal reason for being here, just because you don't personally agree with the war doesn't make it illegal. But last time I checked that wasn't the topic of this thread, so how bout taking that one elsewhere.History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or the timid. --Dwight D. Eisenhower Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Alias 0 #106 June 3, 2005 Quote Now that we are in the counter-insurgency role it is near impossible to call in an airstrike....... Air strikes will only be used in the event of troops in contact, taking direct fire from a location that cannot be reached by those on the ground. a report of a single insurgent will be answered by a force moving on the building to capture that person, or kill if resistance is met. We don't kill them simply because they are insurgents, a live insurgent does more good than a dead one. Not saying this one didn't have it coming...but it kind of destroys your point...or maybe the restrictions you site aren't as "insane" as you think http://www.big-boys.com/articles/iraqbomb.html helluva shot! Carpe Diem Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites GQ_jumper 4 #107 June 3, 2005 i've been in remote areas with little to no buildings around and been told that air support will be near impossible to get unless its our only other option, when i'm saying these things its coming from personal experience. keep in mind though i'm down on the ground in the shit, i don't know the people that make the decisions about when an airstrike on a suspected location is cool and when it isn't, i just know that a lot of the time we are told its not gonna happen. i can say though, that airstrikes aren't called in because there was an unconfirmed report of insurgents there. it takes a lot more solid evidence before that's allowed. i can't get into the details of it but trust me it takes a lot more than you think just to convince someone to let us kick down a door to arrest a guy let alone take out the house.History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or the timid. --Dwight D. Eisenhower Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Alias 0 #108 June 3, 2005 Roger that - and thanks for your service But you'll admit that we have bombed residential areas, killing civilians, in the hopes the the intel was correct - and sometimes it's not....that was my origional point - nothing more - nothing less Welcome home! Carpe Diem Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites GQ_jumper 4 #109 June 3, 2005 But you'll admit that we have bombed residential areas, killing civilians, in the hopes the the intel was correct - and sometimes it's not....that was my origional point - nothing more - nothing less Quote yeah i probably should've taken a second to look at what i wrote originally, but i don't think people realize how hard it is to get clearance to drop munitions in civilian areas like that. and a lot of people seem to think we do it without regard for civilian life. Welcome home! gimme 18 more days and then say that!!!! fingers crossedHistory does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or the timid. --Dwight D. Eisenhower Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites slug 1 #110 June 4, 2005 QuoteI grow weary of your bait-and-switch games. I think everyone can see what you're up to. JR You talking to yourself again As you were R.I.P. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites JohnRich 4 #111 June 6, 2005 QuoteAs always you’re lost John This is what you said right QuoteIt's a religious practice dictated by poor sanitation How can it be dictated by poor sanitation if it requires you to wash you hands, arms, feet and face at least 3 times a day. That’s not a footnote it is a major part. You see John when you replay with BS I will always pull your card and show your ignorance. Ah, the peace-loving Muslim shows his patience and respect for his adversary. Very nice. Personally, I think you went over the line into the personal insult category. But hey, it only makes you look bad. You are mixing things up. You started by pointing out, correctly, that at one time the great empire of Persia was more advanced than Europe. However, that is no longer true. The Muslim nations are no longer nearly so enlightened and advanced. In fact, they are generally backwards compared to the modern world. So, that was then, and this is now. The practice of discriminating against the left hand was started a long time ago when sanitation wasn't readily available. It was necessary then to reduce disease, and still is in many places. Where the Muslims can now readily wash, it is no longer necessary. However, they maintain the practice anyway. So why don't they drop this stupid ritual of considering the left hand to be "unclean"? This was never about calling all Muslims "dirty", and you shouldn't have presumed that. But you seem to just be so pre-loaded to attack Americans for any reason it all, it really didn't surprise me that you did. QuoteTo you ... You were the one who said you like to refer to Arabs or Muslims as towel heads. Just to be clear. You inserted the above comment in a reply to my message. I have never used that term here in any forum, and that comment does not apply to me. I would prefer you make such replies directly to the person involved, so that there is no confusion by the readers. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Zenister 0 #112 June 7, 2005 Quote>Only long-term history can properly make that determination. >Check back in 50 years and let's see where things stand. By those standards, looks like the Japanese made the right decision in 1941. if time is the only measure, you are entirely correct... which just makes life that much worse for us on the ground NOW...____________________________________ Those who fail to learn from the past are simply Doomed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Zenister 0 #113 June 7, 2005 Quote That doesn't change the practice, born of sanitation needs, of considering the left hand to be unclean. perhaps you should look up the etymology of the word 'sinister'?? oh wait.. preconceived ignorance is bliss isnt it?? ____________________________________ Those who fail to learn from the past are simply Doomed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Darius11 12 #114 June 7, 2005 John your right the post was made to you But did you miss this part QuoteTo you Juan I have told you many times So I made it obvious that it was not about you. But once again you missed the obvious. QuoteThe practice of discriminating against the left hand was started a long time ago when sanitation wasn't readily available. It was necessary then to reduce disease, and still is in many places. Where the Muslims can now readily wash, it is no longer necessary. However, they maintain the practice anyway. So why don't they drop this stupid ritual of considering the left hand to be "unclean"? Sanitation was not readily available anywhere back in the day not just in the Muslim world, and the point you keep on missing is that Islam makes it a point to be clean. I am not going to sit here and argue with you over and over you just don’t get it and you have no first hand information your assuming you know but you don’t. As to the post being a personal attack. It was not and you know it but feel free to whine and cry about it all you want. If Juan used the word “towel heads” he is the one who made the personal attack but the more I thought about it why complain about it why have one of the moderators delete it. Let everyone who comes here know what level of mentality he has. They can judge for them selves. Hope you have an enlightened day. I am done with this thread.Peace DariusI'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites JohnRich 4 #115 June 7, 2005 June 7th Muslim insurgents in Iraq:U.S. and Iraqi troops launched an offensive against insurgents in the northwestern city of Tal Afar... One of the targets is a cell blamed for the kidnappings and beheadings of two people. The offensive follows a tribal meeting in which the leaders urged troops to come in and essentially level part of the city where insurgents are hiding. A series of car bombs in the Hawija area near Kirkuk killed 14 people , including four Iraqi soldiers. The blasts wounded 39 people -- 30 of them were civilians. At least 28 people -- including two police officers -- were wounded in a car bombing in Baghdad. A Foreign Ministry official and an Iraqi commando were killed in separate drive-by shootings while a third shooting left an Iraqi police official critically ounded.The Taliban in Afghanistan:Some were baby-faced teenagers too young to grow facial hair. Others said they were snatched from their families and forced to work for Afghanistan's Taliban... "My infant cousin was born. We had a party. We were playing the drums. We were having fun. When they came they broke the tapes, they broke the drums, they took me to jail, they beat me with a cable then they put salt in it — my wounds," he told the tribunal. In many parts of Afghanistan, the Taliban regime prohibited music and dancing, imposing a strict form of Islam. They also forced children into religious schools to study the Quran. Another young prisoner accused of links to an al-Qaida explosives cell said the Taliban came to his village and forced people to work or undergo training. One prisoner is asked to respond to an allegation he conscripted young men for the Taliban by grabbing them off the street. The man said after the Taliban lost 8,000 men in fighting in 1998, "they started forcing young men and boys into service." "They would go to each village and request 100 recruits from the tribal elders," the prisoner said. "The tribal elders were forced to provide these young men, otherwise the village would be burned. America:President George W. Bush was set to announce Tuesday that the United States will be contributing another 674 million dollars toward humanitarian assistance in Africa, a White House spokesman said. The announcement is to come at a joint press conference with British Prime Minister Tony Blair. The sum is in addition to the 1.4 billion dollars the United States has already pledged to contribute to the United Nations' Africa fund, spokesman Scott McClellan said. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites christelsabine 1 #116 June 7, 2005 What do I have to understand with that comparison? I mean, seen with the eyes of an alien? Sounds a lot like playing drums. dudeist skydiver # 3105 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites JohnRich 4 #117 June 7, 2005 QuoteWhat do I have to understand with that comparison? I mean, seen with the eyes of an alien? Sounds a lot like playing drums. (The devil sitting on my left shoulder:) What in the heck is that supposed to mean? Can you ever type an intelligible response? How much has Germany donated to African assistance? (The angel sitting on my right shoulder:) Let it go John, it's not worth it... (My compromise comment in the middle:) Do you think that the insurgents are doing the right thing by blowing up civilians with car bombs? Do you think America is terrible for donating 2 billion dollars to help Africa? (The devil again:) You don't really expect a straight answer, do you? (The angel again:) One can always hope... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites christelsabine 1 #118 June 7, 2005 Well JohnRich, "you" are facing a hard life nowadays taking care of every continent on earth and stuff! BTW, I think once I met those little devils sitting left and right on the shoulders: They were fighting with me if I should post to you or not. One of them lost, here I am. Let me guess: With your post you like to tell me, that the US is not only spending $$ to destroy other countries but, much more to help a complete continent to learn how to stand on own feet. Am I impressed? I doubt that. dudeist skydiver # 3105 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites eaglenrider 0 #119 June 8, 2005 And to your question, ousting SH is our legal reason for being here, just because you don't personally agree with the war doesn't make it illegal. __________________________________________________ OK. Can you site any law which gave the US the legal athority to oust Saddam? I mean, you are "in the shit". You are the guy killing . Surely you know the legal reason why. Blues, Cliff Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites JohnRich 4 #120 June 8, 2005 QuoteQuoteDo you think that the insurgents are doing the right thing by blowing up civilians with car bombs? Do you think America is terrible for donating 2 billion dollars to help Africa? ...the US is... spending... to help a complete continent to learn how to stand on own feet. Am I impressed? I doubt that. I wonder if you realize how bad your responses, and lack of response, makes you look. First, you can't even bring yourself to admit that the suicide car-bombing of innocent civilians is a terrible thing. And then you can't even bring yourself to admit that $2 billion worth of charity for Africa is a good thing. You are quite the humanitarian! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites JohnRich 4 #121 June 8, 2005 June 8th: America helping Iraqii Muslims:The World Food Program says that almost all Iraqis have been receiving enough food since June 2003, since the Coalition took over the oil for food program from the United Nations. Under the reconstruction of Iraq, the Ministry of Health now has a $1 billion (US Dollars) budget. By mid-2004 all 240 of Iraq's hospitals were up and running. Salaries for doctors and nurses have been greatly increased, and maintenance is being performed on some health care facilities. The water supply has reached prewar levels. 157 wells are being constructed, and several dams are being constructed across the country. The first modern landfill in Iraqi history is currently being developed in southwest Baghdad. USAID is helping to build a second landfill north of Baghdad. Both landfills will be built to international environmental standards. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites juanesky 0 #122 June 13, 2005 So it is cool for you to insult, and also whine about being called an "expletive", in this thread, this expletive "towel head" was actually aired by you at the time being. You call him ignorant, and me a racist, and to top it you are just disgusted if anyone has anything to fear or hate about the extremist muslims which you seem so fond of..... As an advice you should definitely let people know of your true allegiance, although many of us in here can already see it through, and take it to real life. It is always easier to be a chairborne ranger. And as far as the KKK goes, I hardly think it is feasible as I am not interested and I'm not "white".....FYI. I'm very hapy to be part of the Army and that I excercise my duty to defend this nation with actions and not words."According to some of the conservatives here, it sounds like it's fine to beat your wide - as long as she had it coming." -Billvon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Botellines 0 #123 June 13, 2005 Quote You call him ignorant, and me a racist, and to top it you are just disgusted if anyone has anything to fear or hate about the extremist muslims which you seem so fond of..... As an advice you should definitely let people know of your true allegiance, although many of us in here can already see it through, and take it to real life. It is always easier to be a chairborne ranger. Is this some of the old macho "with us or against us shit"? Come on, you can do better than that. What is your true allegiance, by the way? Just so you know most people here are neutral and will side with whoever has been wronged. Think about this when you wonder why the U.S is losing all the allies. QuoteAnd as far as the KKK goes, I hardly think it is feasible as I am not interested and I'm not "white".....FYI. No worries mate, if MJ could do it, you can do it too, don´t let skin color stop you... QuoteI'm very hapy to be part of the Army and that I excercise my duty to defend this nation with actions and not words. Oh, so what you are doing now is to defend your nation. My bad, i thought that this week´s reason to go to war was to free Iraq. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Jimbo 0 #124 June 14, 2005 QuoteJust so you know most people here are neutral and will side with whoever has been wronged. People will almost always side with those who have been 'wronged', what's up for debate now (and always will be no matter the conflict) is who was 'wronged'. - Jim"Like" - The modern day comma Good bye, my friends. You are missed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites juanesky 0 #125 June 14, 2005 As far as the MJ side of things, I think that sex with a minor is your specialty, or don't you think the accuser was in heaven as you have stated before??? I think that between us there is only one person that is pro-nambla, and rest assured that none of my actions or statements have backed such a proposition, but in the other hand, yours have been posted here before and pretty much have run along the lines "the kid is in heaven!!" Edited to add: As many times I have posted I bear true faith in the constitution and have already pledged an oath to defend this nation from its enemies, foreign or domestic, now, is there any part in this statement that is not clear to you at all?"According to some of the conservatives here, it sounds like it's fine to beat your wide - as long as she had it coming." -Billvon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 3 4 5 6 Next Page 5 of 6 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. 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Alias 0 #106 June 3, 2005 Quote Now that we are in the counter-insurgency role it is near impossible to call in an airstrike....... Air strikes will only be used in the event of troops in contact, taking direct fire from a location that cannot be reached by those on the ground. a report of a single insurgent will be answered by a force moving on the building to capture that person, or kill if resistance is met. We don't kill them simply because they are insurgents, a live insurgent does more good than a dead one. Not saying this one didn't have it coming...but it kind of destroys your point...or maybe the restrictions you site aren't as "insane" as you think http://www.big-boys.com/articles/iraqbomb.html helluva shot! Carpe Diem Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GQ_jumper 4 #107 June 3, 2005 i've been in remote areas with little to no buildings around and been told that air support will be near impossible to get unless its our only other option, when i'm saying these things its coming from personal experience. keep in mind though i'm down on the ground in the shit, i don't know the people that make the decisions about when an airstrike on a suspected location is cool and when it isn't, i just know that a lot of the time we are told its not gonna happen. i can say though, that airstrikes aren't called in because there was an unconfirmed report of insurgents there. it takes a lot more solid evidence before that's allowed. i can't get into the details of it but trust me it takes a lot more than you think just to convince someone to let us kick down a door to arrest a guy let alone take out the house.History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or the timid. --Dwight D. Eisenhower Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alias 0 #108 June 3, 2005 Roger that - and thanks for your service But you'll admit that we have bombed residential areas, killing civilians, in the hopes the the intel was correct - and sometimes it's not....that was my origional point - nothing more - nothing less Welcome home! Carpe Diem Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GQ_jumper 4 #109 June 3, 2005 But you'll admit that we have bombed residential areas, killing civilians, in the hopes the the intel was correct - and sometimes it's not....that was my origional point - nothing more - nothing less Quote yeah i probably should've taken a second to look at what i wrote originally, but i don't think people realize how hard it is to get clearance to drop munitions in civilian areas like that. and a lot of people seem to think we do it without regard for civilian life. Welcome home! gimme 18 more days and then say that!!!! fingers crossedHistory does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or the timid. --Dwight D. Eisenhower Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
slug 1 #110 June 4, 2005 QuoteI grow weary of your bait-and-switch games. I think everyone can see what you're up to. JR You talking to yourself again As you were R.I.P. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnRich 4 #111 June 6, 2005 QuoteAs always you’re lost John This is what you said right QuoteIt's a religious practice dictated by poor sanitation How can it be dictated by poor sanitation if it requires you to wash you hands, arms, feet and face at least 3 times a day. That’s not a footnote it is a major part. You see John when you replay with BS I will always pull your card and show your ignorance. Ah, the peace-loving Muslim shows his patience and respect for his adversary. Very nice. Personally, I think you went over the line into the personal insult category. But hey, it only makes you look bad. You are mixing things up. You started by pointing out, correctly, that at one time the great empire of Persia was more advanced than Europe. However, that is no longer true. The Muslim nations are no longer nearly so enlightened and advanced. In fact, they are generally backwards compared to the modern world. So, that was then, and this is now. The practice of discriminating against the left hand was started a long time ago when sanitation wasn't readily available. It was necessary then to reduce disease, and still is in many places. Where the Muslims can now readily wash, it is no longer necessary. However, they maintain the practice anyway. So why don't they drop this stupid ritual of considering the left hand to be "unclean"? This was never about calling all Muslims "dirty", and you shouldn't have presumed that. But you seem to just be so pre-loaded to attack Americans for any reason it all, it really didn't surprise me that you did. QuoteTo you ... You were the one who said you like to refer to Arabs or Muslims as towel heads. Just to be clear. You inserted the above comment in a reply to my message. I have never used that term here in any forum, and that comment does not apply to me. I would prefer you make such replies directly to the person involved, so that there is no confusion by the readers. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zenister 0 #112 June 7, 2005 Quote>Only long-term history can properly make that determination. >Check back in 50 years and let's see where things stand. By those standards, looks like the Japanese made the right decision in 1941. if time is the only measure, you are entirely correct... which just makes life that much worse for us on the ground NOW...____________________________________ Those who fail to learn from the past are simply Doomed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zenister 0 #113 June 7, 2005 Quote That doesn't change the practice, born of sanitation needs, of considering the left hand to be unclean. perhaps you should look up the etymology of the word 'sinister'?? oh wait.. preconceived ignorance is bliss isnt it?? ____________________________________ Those who fail to learn from the past are simply Doomed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Darius11 12 #114 June 7, 2005 John your right the post was made to you But did you miss this part QuoteTo you Juan I have told you many times So I made it obvious that it was not about you. But once again you missed the obvious. QuoteThe practice of discriminating against the left hand was started a long time ago when sanitation wasn't readily available. It was necessary then to reduce disease, and still is in many places. Where the Muslims can now readily wash, it is no longer necessary. However, they maintain the practice anyway. So why don't they drop this stupid ritual of considering the left hand to be "unclean"? Sanitation was not readily available anywhere back in the day not just in the Muslim world, and the point you keep on missing is that Islam makes it a point to be clean. I am not going to sit here and argue with you over and over you just don’t get it and you have no first hand information your assuming you know but you don’t. As to the post being a personal attack. It was not and you know it but feel free to whine and cry about it all you want. If Juan used the word “towel heads” he is the one who made the personal attack but the more I thought about it why complain about it why have one of the moderators delete it. Let everyone who comes here know what level of mentality he has. They can judge for them selves. Hope you have an enlightened day. I am done with this thread.Peace DariusI'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnRich 4 #115 June 7, 2005 June 7th Muslim insurgents in Iraq:U.S. and Iraqi troops launched an offensive against insurgents in the northwestern city of Tal Afar... One of the targets is a cell blamed for the kidnappings and beheadings of two people. The offensive follows a tribal meeting in which the leaders urged troops to come in and essentially level part of the city where insurgents are hiding. A series of car bombs in the Hawija area near Kirkuk killed 14 people , including four Iraqi soldiers. The blasts wounded 39 people -- 30 of them were civilians. At least 28 people -- including two police officers -- were wounded in a car bombing in Baghdad. A Foreign Ministry official and an Iraqi commando were killed in separate drive-by shootings while a third shooting left an Iraqi police official critically ounded.The Taliban in Afghanistan:Some were baby-faced teenagers too young to grow facial hair. Others said they were snatched from their families and forced to work for Afghanistan's Taliban... "My infant cousin was born. We had a party. We were playing the drums. We were having fun. When they came they broke the tapes, they broke the drums, they took me to jail, they beat me with a cable then they put salt in it — my wounds," he told the tribunal. In many parts of Afghanistan, the Taliban regime prohibited music and dancing, imposing a strict form of Islam. They also forced children into religious schools to study the Quran. Another young prisoner accused of links to an al-Qaida explosives cell said the Taliban came to his village and forced people to work or undergo training. One prisoner is asked to respond to an allegation he conscripted young men for the Taliban by grabbing them off the street. The man said after the Taliban lost 8,000 men in fighting in 1998, "they started forcing young men and boys into service." "They would go to each village and request 100 recruits from the tribal elders," the prisoner said. "The tribal elders were forced to provide these young men, otherwise the village would be burned. America:President George W. Bush was set to announce Tuesday that the United States will be contributing another 674 million dollars toward humanitarian assistance in Africa, a White House spokesman said. The announcement is to come at a joint press conference with British Prime Minister Tony Blair. The sum is in addition to the 1.4 billion dollars the United States has already pledged to contribute to the United Nations' Africa fund, spokesman Scott McClellan said. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
christelsabine 1 #116 June 7, 2005 What do I have to understand with that comparison? I mean, seen with the eyes of an alien? Sounds a lot like playing drums. dudeist skydiver # 3105 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnRich 4 #117 June 7, 2005 QuoteWhat do I have to understand with that comparison? I mean, seen with the eyes of an alien? Sounds a lot like playing drums. (The devil sitting on my left shoulder:) What in the heck is that supposed to mean? Can you ever type an intelligible response? How much has Germany donated to African assistance? (The angel sitting on my right shoulder:) Let it go John, it's not worth it... (My compromise comment in the middle:) Do you think that the insurgents are doing the right thing by blowing up civilians with car bombs? Do you think America is terrible for donating 2 billion dollars to help Africa? (The devil again:) You don't really expect a straight answer, do you? (The angel again:) One can always hope... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
christelsabine 1 #118 June 7, 2005 Well JohnRich, "you" are facing a hard life nowadays taking care of every continent on earth and stuff! BTW, I think once I met those little devils sitting left and right on the shoulders: They were fighting with me if I should post to you or not. One of them lost, here I am. Let me guess: With your post you like to tell me, that the US is not only spending $$ to destroy other countries but, much more to help a complete continent to learn how to stand on own feet. Am I impressed? I doubt that. dudeist skydiver # 3105 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eaglenrider 0 #119 June 8, 2005 And to your question, ousting SH is our legal reason for being here, just because you don't personally agree with the war doesn't make it illegal. __________________________________________________ OK. Can you site any law which gave the US the legal athority to oust Saddam? I mean, you are "in the shit". You are the guy killing . Surely you know the legal reason why. Blues, Cliff Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnRich 4 #120 June 8, 2005 QuoteQuoteDo you think that the insurgents are doing the right thing by blowing up civilians with car bombs? Do you think America is terrible for donating 2 billion dollars to help Africa? ...the US is... spending... to help a complete continent to learn how to stand on own feet. Am I impressed? I doubt that. I wonder if you realize how bad your responses, and lack of response, makes you look. First, you can't even bring yourself to admit that the suicide car-bombing of innocent civilians is a terrible thing. And then you can't even bring yourself to admit that $2 billion worth of charity for Africa is a good thing. You are quite the humanitarian! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnRich 4 #121 June 8, 2005 June 8th: America helping Iraqii Muslims:The World Food Program says that almost all Iraqis have been receiving enough food since June 2003, since the Coalition took over the oil for food program from the United Nations. Under the reconstruction of Iraq, the Ministry of Health now has a $1 billion (US Dollars) budget. By mid-2004 all 240 of Iraq's hospitals were up and running. Salaries for doctors and nurses have been greatly increased, and maintenance is being performed on some health care facilities. The water supply has reached prewar levels. 157 wells are being constructed, and several dams are being constructed across the country. The first modern landfill in Iraqi history is currently being developed in southwest Baghdad. USAID is helping to build a second landfill north of Baghdad. Both landfills will be built to international environmental standards. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
juanesky 0 #122 June 13, 2005 So it is cool for you to insult, and also whine about being called an "expletive", in this thread, this expletive "towel head" was actually aired by you at the time being. You call him ignorant, and me a racist, and to top it you are just disgusted if anyone has anything to fear or hate about the extremist muslims which you seem so fond of..... As an advice you should definitely let people know of your true allegiance, although many of us in here can already see it through, and take it to real life. It is always easier to be a chairborne ranger. And as far as the KKK goes, I hardly think it is feasible as I am not interested and I'm not "white".....FYI. I'm very hapy to be part of the Army and that I excercise my duty to defend this nation with actions and not words."According to some of the conservatives here, it sounds like it's fine to beat your wide - as long as she had it coming." -Billvon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Botellines 0 #123 June 13, 2005 Quote You call him ignorant, and me a racist, and to top it you are just disgusted if anyone has anything to fear or hate about the extremist muslims which you seem so fond of..... As an advice you should definitely let people know of your true allegiance, although many of us in here can already see it through, and take it to real life. It is always easier to be a chairborne ranger. Is this some of the old macho "with us or against us shit"? Come on, you can do better than that. What is your true allegiance, by the way? Just so you know most people here are neutral and will side with whoever has been wronged. Think about this when you wonder why the U.S is losing all the allies. QuoteAnd as far as the KKK goes, I hardly think it is feasible as I am not interested and I'm not "white".....FYI. No worries mate, if MJ could do it, you can do it too, don´t let skin color stop you... QuoteI'm very hapy to be part of the Army and that I excercise my duty to defend this nation with actions and not words. Oh, so what you are doing now is to defend your nation. My bad, i thought that this week´s reason to go to war was to free Iraq. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jimbo 0 #124 June 14, 2005 QuoteJust so you know most people here are neutral and will side with whoever has been wronged. People will almost always side with those who have been 'wronged', what's up for debate now (and always will be no matter the conflict) is who was 'wronged'. - Jim"Like" - The modern day comma Good bye, my friends. You are missed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
juanesky 0 #125 June 14, 2005 As far as the MJ side of things, I think that sex with a minor is your specialty, or don't you think the accuser was in heaven as you have stated before??? I think that between us there is only one person that is pro-nambla, and rest assured that none of my actions or statements have backed such a proposition, but in the other hand, yours have been posted here before and pretty much have run along the lines "the kid is in heaven!!" Edited to add: As many times I have posted I bear true faith in the constitution and have already pledged an oath to defend this nation from its enemies, foreign or domestic, now, is there any part in this statement that is not clear to you at all?"According to some of the conservatives here, it sounds like it's fine to beat your wide - as long as she had it coming." -Billvon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
