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Come out to the real world, pork strip. This isn't first week economics where you have that simple little supply/demand line.
Despite claims otherwise, the US economy has been in a slump for a good while. Employers can be very choosey right now and 'shop' for employees. If we assume that we're filling a position that is race neutral, you can eliminate 20% of the applicants without compromising the quality of the hires in any measurable value. And there are enough applicants out there that you don't fear wage pressure much, as my direct (white) experience indicates.
Worse, in a big company, a manager is far more likely to be rewarded or punished for how well the budget is maintained than the quality of the work done by that unit.
Despite claims otherwise, the US economy has been in a slump for a good while. Employers can be very choosey right now and 'shop' for employees. If we assume that we're filling a position that is race neutral, you can eliminate 20% of the applicants without compromising the quality of the hires in any measurable value. And there are enough applicants out there that you don't fear wage pressure much, as my direct (white) experience indicates.
Worse, in a big company, a manager is far more likely to be rewarded or punished for how well the budget is maintained than the quality of the work done by that unit.
eflynn 0
Sometimes that is the only way stuff gets delt with
Sometimes that's the case but I still don't feel like Cosby handling it the way he did did anymore good that it would have done if he'd handled it in a different venue.
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hr] SWEET....is she hot?
It lacked the cinematic quality or an onionbooty.com clip but it was cool.
Dude its in their charter...BLACK Entertainment Television.
I'm well aware what the name stands for and as I said earlier, if the name was anything different you would feel the same way about it.
The demographics are black males 18-35.
The simple fact is that BET is racist. It is an organization created for one segment of the population. Now they don't disallow white viewers...But the simple truth is that a white only channel would catch grief.
I still don't see why its OK for blacks, not OK for whites. (I know you say you don't care, but the truth is all hell would break loose)
No player Ron, it's not racist. A chief component of racism is an inherent supeority of one race. BET doesn't embody anything of the sort. It targets one segment of the population the same way Parachutist and porn pop up ads do.
We'll again have to agree to disagree.
funks 1
QuoteActually ,Kelpdiver, I don't think society has treated me badly at all. Especially when I consider how "lesser"blacks have been treated. When I say "lesser" I'm talking about those whose anscestors were slaves.
How has society treated a black man whose ancestors were slaves poorly? What does there ancestors have to do with anything?
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Then I was told that yes slavery was wrong but there was no reason for the decendants of slaves to inherit the monies long past due.
Once again, why should somebody receive monies from something that happened generations ago? Why do they personally deserve it?
QuoteNext I was told that there is still discrimination ,but it ain't any harder on blacks than whites.
There is discrimination against all races in the world, but for some reason black people seem to think they have it worst off then anybody else.
QuoteAll I'm doin here is stickin' up for those poor unfortunate darker blackies,and y'all act like I'm one of them!!
Darker blackies? Can you please explain exactly what a darker blackie is.
QuoteInfact, as I previously stated ,this segment of the population doesn't recognize the "white mans" laws or government.
Isnt it the american peoples laws and government? I didnt think different races had different laws in this country.
QuoteThat government has never made restitution or sought any Justice for past grievances , grievences that they have admitted, so why should those "darkies" put any stock in the white mans 'system?
Once again, please explain this "white mans system" Which system does the black man adhere to?
QuoteThis being the case, going to jail has become somewhat of a "right of passage" among the males in the black community. If you ain't been to jail you must be kissin' up to the man too much!
Good excuse for criminal behavior. Nice try.
QuoteAnd less you think that "jail time" is any deterent to the blacks, let me remind you that jail is one of the few places in america where the blacks are in the majority.
It obviously isnt a deterent. Just look at the numbers. It is actually very sad if you think about it.
QuoteThis is a place where they have white servants bringing them meals, medicine , and toilet paper. This is a place where they are runnin' things and jungle rules apply.
Great, there is your retribution. The white man serving the black man. Happy now?
Honestly bud, some of your arguments actually got me thinking. This post totally swayed me from thinking that you are sincere in your thoughts. Some of the statements in this particular post are just ridiculous
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Come out to the real world, pork strip. This isn't first week economics where you have that simple little supply/demand line.
It sounds like you slept through everything after that first week when they talked about the "simple little supply/demand line".
Yea, and its BaconStrip with a capital B.
Second shallowest response.
Come on, where's the beef?
(actually, going offline now. If you're up for a real debate, we can resume it tomorrow. If it's just more bacon bits, nevermind)
Come on, where's the beef?
(actually, going offline now. If you're up for a real debate, we can resume it tomorrow. If it's just more bacon bits, nevermind)
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Then I was told that yes slavery was wrong but there was no reason for the decendants of slaves to inherit the monies long past due.
Once again, why should somebody receive monies from something that happened generations ago? Why do they personally deserve it?
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Tell me this Bud,
If Wachovia had extended credit to your grandfather, and he died before he paid it back, would you agree that your grandfathers' estate owed Wachovia the balance of the account?
Blues,
Cliff
What motivates you to hire biatches of all races, governmental anti-discrimination laws or the desires of your customers?
funks 1
QuoteTell me this Bud,
If Wachovia had extended credit to your grandfather, and he died before he paid it back, would you agree that your grandfathers' estate owed Wachovia the balance of the account?
If signed documentation existed proving who owed who what then yes i would agree. Otherwise there are just to many unknowns to hold anybody liable.
[Honestly bud, some of your arguments actually got me thinking. This post totally swayed me from thinking that you are sincere in your thoughts. Some of the statements in this particular post are just ridiculous
Ok , You caught me , My great great grandmother wasn't the cousin of the King of Sheba, that was rediculous, she was his sister.
So which of my comments "got you thinking"?
Blues,
Cliff
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QuoteTell me this Bud,
If Wachovia had extended credit to your grandfather, and he died before he paid it back, would you agree that your grandfathers' estate owed Wachovia the balance of the account?
If signed documentation existed proving who owed who what then yes i would agree. Otherwise there are just to many unknowns to hold anybody liable.
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Signed documentation isn't going to happen here but we all know that blacks were held as slaves and worked for no compensation.
If any progeny of a slave could document their family tree back to a slave that was working on a certain plantation or farm, would you support the progeny of that slave in a compensation lawsuit against those who profited from the slaves labor?
Blues,
Cliff
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And I am saying that there are places where discriminatory hiring practices make you MORE money.
Examples please, the only place I can think of is the political arena. Oh yea and Georgia were no one buys things from stores who have black clerks.
funks 1
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[Honestly bud, some of your arguments actually got me thinking. This post totally swayed me from thinking that you are sincere in your thoughts. Some of the statements in this particular post are just ridiculous
Ok , You caught me , My great great grandmother wasn't the cousin of the King of Sheba, that was rediculous, she was his sister.
So which of my comments "got you thinking"?
Blues,
Cliff
Is the king of sheba you are refering to in your family history Menelik II?
If yes, Do you think "your" family should be paying people for all the money his / your family made in the slave trade in the 18 and 1900s????
Well????
funks 1
Quotewe all know that blacks were held as slaves and worked for no compensation.
We also know that blacks owned slaves.
QuoteIf any progeny of a slave could document their family tree back to a slave that was working on a certain plantation or farm, would you support the progeny of that slave in a compensation lawsuit against those who profited from the slaves labor?
No. Whats done is done. Get over it. Reliving the past isnt going to help create a better future.
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KATO33 0
QuoteDoes not explain why it is OK for Blacks to have BET, but whites would be called racist.
Do you believe BET should be off the air?
While MTV(WET), VH1(WET), TNN, TBS, ABC, NBC, CBS, (WET, WET, WET, WET, WET,) remains?
Blue Skies Black Death
funks 1
QuoteQuoteDoes not explain why it is OK for Blacks to have BET, but whites would be called racist.
Do you believe BET should be off the air?
While MTV(WET), VH1(WET), TNN, TBS, ABC, NBC, CBS, (WET, WET, WET, WET, WET,) remains?
I think we all know that you can hardly call MTV "White Entertainment Television". If you had to classify it I would put it in the same group as BET
The biggest issue with BET is that it is actually called BLACK entertainment television and publicly states that it is geared towards the black community. The majority of the shows on the WB have all black actors, however they dont advertise that it is geared towards the black community.
Please read this article. It is written by a black actor. Very interesting, he too believes that the black man is his own worst enemy!
http://216.247.220.66/archives/racerelations/standifer6-29-99.htm
minobu 0
Very good article my favorite part deals with the outcry that would have happened had they cast someone in the role of Kramer or any of the other cast members of Seinfeld and its a crying shame as there are some extremely good actors out there that will probably never get a shot as a result 
Only skydivers know why the birds sing!
Jim
Only skydivers know why the birds sing!
Jim
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Take a more likely scenario. A store in Georgia needs to hire clerks. The majority of the potential customers of this store are bigots and don't like blacks, and are more likely to patronize stores that have no blacks in them. Refusing jobs to black clerks will therefore make the store owner more money. So he makes a purely capitalistic decision to hire only whites. Does that make it OK?
I think it DOES make it ok. What if hiring only whites makes the difference between the business being viable or closing its doors? Would the community be better off without the business and jobs it creates?
Wait! What did you posting say before you edited it?And you failed to actually address the argument made.
Hence, I'm declaring it the dumbest response in the history of dropzone.com.
How many jobs have you held in your life?
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