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Not just because of that but that's definitely an indicator.
Sick of Black people who are working class? Fed up with people who were just like the people he grew up with?
Sick of Black people who are working class? Fed up with people who were just like the people he grew up with?
Ron 10
QuoteSup Nigga! (thought I'd make you feel better!LOL!)
I personally find that offensive. You do not have a clue who I am. And If I had said the same you would be really pissed.
QuoteSo what are you now a self appointed moderator? LOL!!!
No, I made the mistake of trying to help you out....I was at one time one of the most banned folks on here....Forgive me for trying to prevent you from getting in trouble...what the hell was I thinking?
Quotehttp://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=1682727#1682727
Do not call people names. Your one warning.
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>Could you tell me where I did? I have no idea.
You said "Know what that makes you? A Racist." I deleted the post.
QuoteListen Ron, there is no way around it . Racial profiling is wrong with a capital W.
It is racism
It also works really well.
Ya wanna hear a story? I was stopped in Compton once and told to "Get the fuck outta here white mother fucker"......
Thats racism too....but no one seems to be bothered by that.
In High School I was jumped by a black guy...the reason he gave when he was caught? "He was white"...Thats racism, but no one seems to mind it either.
Why is it OK for a black man to be racist?
There is a preacher here in Tampa...A Black man, his name escapes me....He considers all whites to be the devil and says so ALL the time on public axcess TV....Why is he allowed, but any white guy saying the same thing would be jumped all over?
Anyone?
Some blacks are the racist people I have ever met....But no one seems to mind it.
Why is that?
"No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334
Zenister 0
you know i think this thread is funniest thing going at the moment... a racial discrimination debate tied with who would whip who's ass, Capt Kirk or Bruce Lee...
Bruce hands down... Kirk fights like a girl no matter how much alien ass he got....
Bruce hands down... Kirk fights like a girl no matter how much alien ass he got....
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Those who fail to learn from the past are simply Doomed.
Those who fail to learn from the past are simply Doomed.
Ron 10
QuoteNot just because of that but that's definitely an indicator.
How many more does it take?
QuoteSick of Black people who are working class?
Maybe he is sick of the blacks on welfare...Do you know who he was saying that about?
QuoteFed up with people who were just like the people he grew up with?
My parents were alcoholics.....I hate alcoholics...Does that make me bad? Maybe he grew up around some real scum. He now hates that scum.....I think that makes him a better man
"No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334
Ron 10
Quoteyou know i think this thread is funniest thing going at the moment... a racial discrimination debate tied with who would whip who's ass, Capt Kirk or Bruce Lee...
Bruce hands down... Kirk fights like a girl no matter how much alien ass he got....
See, we agree again....Bruce would stop Kirk
"No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334
QuoteSo what are you now a self appointed moderator? LOL!!!
No, I made the mistake of trying to help you out....I was at one time one of the most banned folks on here....Forgive me for trying to prevent you from getting in trouble
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OOH!!! Some trouble!!! Thank you so much ,Ron!!! You might have saved me from havin' my post deleted!!!!
Is that what white folk consider trouble?
Certainly that is what you thought you were gonna save me from!
Well thank you Massa Ron!
You a good white man!!!
Blues,
Cliff
eflynn 0
I thought the same thing.
Kirk is still the hardest guy in the galaxy.
Kirk is still the hardest guy in the galaxy.
eflynn 0
Listen. If his point was he disliked lazy Black people, it wouldn't have been an issue and there wouldn't have so many raised eyebrows. That wasn't his point. It's not our version of "white trash." That wasn't what he was saying.
As I remember he was talking about working class Black people. As I also recall, he grew up around working class Black people.
When you have some time and you're not trying to improve your life by learning and shit, you should rent "Bamboozled."
As I remember he was talking about working class Black people. As I also recall, he grew up around working class Black people.
When you have some time and you're not trying to improve your life by learning and shit, you should rent "Bamboozled."
QuoteI asked you to name two other people who preach about differences. You named me. Then you say I don't preach. It doesn't make any sense... as long as you know I know.
Preach is a bit of an exaggeration. You just keep saying that blacks are "different".
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"Does it seem to you that American blacks are paranoid and seem to find (and complain about) racism even when none exists"
Is your question loaded? From all the "reading between my lines" you should be able to conclude I don't feel that way.
Let me draw some parallels between the discrimination that many blacks perceive in the culture and another scenario.
I travel overseas occasionally. Let's say that I go to another country, flaunt my disdain for the local government and culture, treat the locals rudely for no apparent reason and absolutely refuse to show respect for their culture by learning the language, eating the local foods, etc. What kind of treatment should I expect to receive? Beyond that, what kind of treatment should other people from my culture expect to receive as a consequence of my behavior?
Anyone who has travelled to other countries knows full well what happens with the above kind of behavior. They also know that not doing those things will get them a far better reception.
Why should that NOT apply in this country? For example, let's say that I go to a black neighborhood, act as arrogant as possible and show disrespect toward the locals. Should I expect really warm treatment? Obviously not. Could my behavior affect the way the next white person in that neighborhood is treated? Could be.
Suppose a black person refuses to speak proper English, uses foul language around older people and families with kids, dresses like a criminal, flaunts his attitude toward the law, plays rap music with foul language really loud in his car while driving with the windows rolled down, etc. Should that guy expect a really warm welcome? Might his behavior affect others' attitudes toward blacks?
That is the situation we have in this country. It is obviously more complex than that, but do you see the parallels?
Many blacks in this country have a lot of baggage that few people want to deal with. Can you blame them, or is it simply another case of Whitey just doesn't understand?
To tie this back to my paranoia comment, I think a lot of stuff that might be interpreted as racism, is more a case of people being alienated by offensive behavior and bad attitudes on the parts of some blacks. I don't view that as racism at all.
Of course me being Whitey, maybe I just don't understand.
Walt
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QuoteQuoteI asked you to name two other people who preach about differences. You named me. Then you say I don't preach. It doesn't make any sense... as long as you know I know.
Preach is a bit of an exaggeration. You just keep saying that blacks are "different".
Because we are and it's evidenced by this discussion
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"Does it seem to you that American blacks are paranoid and seem to find (and complain about) racism even when none exists"
Is your question loaded? From all the "reading between my lines" you should be able to conclude I don't feel that way.
Let me draw some parallels between the discrimination that many blacks perceive in the culture and another scenario.
I travel overseas occasionally. Let's say that I go to another country, flaunt my disdain for the local government and culture, treat the locals rudely for no apparent reason and absolutely refuse to show respect for their culture by learning the language, eating the local foods, etc. What kind of treatment should I expect to receive? Beyond that, what kind of treatment should other people from my culture expect to receive as a consequence of my behavior?
Anyone who has travelled to other countries knows full well what happens with the above kind of behavior. They also know that not doing those things will get them a far better reception.
Why should that NOT apply in this country? For example, let's say that I go to a black neighborhood, act as arrogant as possible and show disrespect toward the locals. Should I expect really warm treatment? Obviously not. Could my behavior affect the way the next white person in that neighborhood is treated? Could be.
Suppose a black person refuses to speak proper English, uses foul language around older people and families with kids, dresses like a criminal, flaunts his attitude toward the law, plays rap music with foul language really loud in his car while driving with the windows rolled down, etc. Should that guy expect a really warm welcome? Might his behavior affect others' attitudes toward blacks?
That is the situation we have in this country. It is obviously more complex than that, but do you see the parallels?
Many blacks in this country have a lot of baggage that few people want to deal with. Can you blame them, or is it simply another case of Whitey just doesn't understand?
To tie this back to my paranoia comment, I think a lot of stuff that might be interpreted as racism, is more a case of people being alienated by offensive behavior and bad attitudes on the parts of some blacks. I don't view that as racism at all.
Of course me being Whitey, maybe I just don't understand.
Walt
I understand the parallels but the problems is your "example" is based on the furthest extreme. Remember me saying you only knew one type of Black person? Well that's the one you used in your example and that's the one that pops into your head when someone says "Black guy."
"Refuses to speak proper English:" Go back a few pages and you'll see where I corrected you English, but more to the point is this isn't a Black thing. People of all races butcher the English language.
"Uses foul language around older people and families with kids:" I suppose Black people have a monopoly on this behavior too. Have you ever listened to the way people speak at DZs? It's basically a bar where people skydive.
"Dresses like a criminal:" It seems to me the biggest criminals in history have typically worn suits. Somehow I don't think that's the picture you're painting. How do criminals dress?
"Flaunts his attitude toward the law:" *shaking my head and laughing*
"Plays rap music with foul language really loud in his car while driving with the windows rolled down:" Yes of course. Think about it. When an artist sells 7 million albums do you think it's all Black people who bought it? No. The funny thing about this is at least once a day I have someone pull up to me at the light playing hip hop loud enough for me to look over... and they're not Black.
On top of all this you're example fails again because we're talking about the same country not a foreign country.
It all goes back to what I said about your understanding of Black people... you have very little. If that's okay with you then it's fine with me. But understand your perception of us is based almost entirely on stereotypes. It's tantamount to me saying...
Suppose a white person is condescending, openly displays a sense of entitlement, is disrespectful to his parents, displays no home training... blah blah blah (I'm wondering how many people reading this realized these are some of the negative stereotypes Blacks have about Whites). I run into a version of this daily. But I'm smart enough to know it's one type of person and not everyone is like that.
So, no, you don't understand. No because you're white, but because you haven't taken the time or don't want to take the time to.
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QuoteDo blacks have the same resources to legal representation as th "equivalent "white?
Yes, Yes they do. Please explain to me why they would not????QuoteAs we have established that blacks are more likely to be pulled over due to nothing other than their skin color.we would have to expect incarceration numbers to reflect a higher percentage of blacks.
When did we establish blacks are more likely to be pulled over???? Is it possible that just perhaps the greater population of criminals and those that commit crimes happen to have black skin?
According to your statement you are saying that the reason there are more blacks in prison is due to the "driving while black" factor??? Read your statement, that is ridiculous. There are many socioeconomic reasons as to why a certain percentage of a race is incarcerated. I promise you "driving while black" is not one of those reasons.
QuoteBut you aren't *racist*,
are you ,Funks?
No, I am not.
Ron 10
QuoteOOH!!! Some trouble!!! Thank you so much ,Ron!!! You might have saved me from havin' my post deleted!!!!
Is that what white folk consider trouble?
Certainly that is what you thought you were gonna save me from!
Well thank you Massa Ron!
You a good white man!!!
Blues,
Cliff
Its this right here that encourages racism. I try to be nice and help, you act like that.
You are your own worse problem.
"No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334
KATO33 0
QuoteSuppose a black person refuses to speak proper English
So What
Quoteuses foul language around older people and families with kids
I see White folks do this more often than Blacks.
Quotedresses like a criminal
How does a criminal dress? Capone and the Enron Executives wore suits.
Quoteflaunts his attitude toward the law
What attitude are you speaking of?
Quoteplays rap music with foul language really loud in his car while driving with the windows rolled down
Can't say for sure but I'm sure White kids blast Limp Bizkit & Mettallica at the same volume levels
Blue Skies Black Death
Quoteyou know i think this thread is funniest thing going at the moment... a racial discrimination debate tied with who would whip who's ass, Capt Kirk or Bruce Lee...
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George Foreman could whoop both those boys and then feed 'em a healthy low fat meal.
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QuoteGeorge Foreman could whoop both those boys and then feed 'em a healthy low fat meal.
My man Bruce would give him a hell of a time. Brucie also recovered from near paralysis and still came back kickin' ass.
Georgie would kick Kirky's ass right off. And that's hard to say as Iowa farm boys are much tougher than they look.
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Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants
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>Well thank you Massa Ron!
>You a good white man!!!
Enough with the racist one-liners. Your one warning.
>You a good white man!!!
Enough with the racist one-liners. Your one warning.
Quote>Well thank you Massa Ron!
>You a good white man!!!
Enough with the racist one-liners. Your one warning.
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My apologies.
I should have said, "Well thank you ,Ron. You are a fine individual!!"
Blues,
Cliff
Its this right here that encourages racism. I try to be nice hand help, you act like that.
You are your own worse problem.
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So tell me ,Ron, how my attitude encourages "racism"?
Exactly what race do you believe that I am ,and if you have even considered what race I belong to, does that make you a racist?
Do you have to assign me a "color" or can my thoughts just stand as colorless?
Blues,
Cliff
My man Bruce would give him a hell of a time. Brucie also recovered from near paralysis and still came back kickin' ass.
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Bruce Lee is a feather weight! Sure he has speed but a fly flyin' at full speed into a Bull ain't gonna cause much harm even if there are multiple strikes.
Now George has fists like HAMHOCKS and some serious weight behind 'em.
I don't see that Bruce stands much of a chance.Maybe he oughta return his low-fat GF grill and think about puttin' on some poundage.
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Georgie would kick Kirky's ass right off.
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Kirk is a wimp!
Blues,
Cliff
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Bruce Lee is a feather weight! Sure he has speed but a fly flyin' at full speed into a Bull ain't gonna cause much harm even if there are multiple strikes.
Now George has fists like HAMHOCKS and some serious weight behind 'em.
I don't see that Bruce stands much of a chance.Maybe he oughta return his low-fat GF grill and think about puttin' on some poundage.
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Georgie would kick Kirky's ass right off.
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Kirk is a wimp!
Blues,
Cliff
Ron 10
QuoteSo tell me ,Ron, how my attitude encourages "racism"?
You don't see the racist slant of this?
Quote>Well thank you Massa Ron!
>You a good white man!!!
QuoteExactly what race do you believe that I am ,and if you have even considered what race I belong to, does that make you a racist?
What race are you? Don't know, don't care. But comments like the above make me think you are black.
No me thinking you might be black does not make me a racist...If I ACTED differently to you due to your race, or percieved race...Then I would be a racist.
QuoteDo you have to assign me a "color" or can my thoughts just stand as colorless?
I never assumed you to be any color. And until your comments such as the above "Massa" and "you are a good white man". I didn't have a clue, nor care. In fact you hit me with those only AFTER I tried to be nice. You instead implied that I thought I was a Mod, and then hit me with those comments.
If you notice no where I have ever made any comment to you about anything that could be racist. Can you say the same for yourself?
"No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334
What race are you? Don't know, don't care. But comments like the above make me think you are black.
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Oh , so those are "black "comments? Comments you would expect from a "black man'?
Blues,
Cliff
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Oh , so those are "black "comments? Comments you would expect from a "black man'?
Blues,
Cliff
KATO33 0
General questions for the Board:
When blacks are discriminated against what should we do?
I ask because many have criticized the NAACP, ACLU, Jesse Jackson...etc.
My other question is how do we combat discriminatory hiring practices?
Blue Skies Black Death
When blacks are discriminated against what should we do?
I ask because many have criticized the NAACP, ACLU, Jesse Jackson...etc.
My other question is how do we combat discriminatory hiring practices?
Blue Skies Black Death
By none I mean there are none that exitst for them to call and be turned down by. I don't believe the mandate works the way you've described it. Being from Detroit I know all about the fine Mooch got but this is the first I've heard of it working that way. Your point "all along" hasn't been "what if there's nobody qualified that happens to be black." Your point has been the mandate to require a Black person to be interviewed, not hired, is a racist policy. If nobody who's Black is qualified then a Black person won't get the job.
I've understood what you've been saying all along I just think your way of thinking is naive.
I've already addressed the "tryout a white guy for the running back" issue.
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