lisamariewillbe 1 #126 June 14, 2005 "It is a good thing for an uneducated man to read books of quotations" - Winston ChurchillSudsy Fist: i don't think i'd ever say this Sudsy Fist: but you're looking damn sudsydoable in this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frenchy68 0 #127 June 14, 2005 QuoteChurchill said "democracy is the best form of the worst type of govt" he also said "never give in" and no this wasnt in your opinion it was in churchills you just borrowed the idea. Focus! I never said it was mine. I explicitely specified it was Churchill's. IMO referred to replacing the word "democracy" with the words "US judicial system". Anyone working on that Advil yet? "For once you have tasted Absinthe you will walk the earth with your eyes turned towards the gutter, for there you have been and there you will long to return." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lisamariewillbe 1 #128 June 14, 2005 no but I know where you can get some horse tranqualizers...Sudsy Fist: i don't think i'd ever say this Sudsy Fist: but you're looking damn sudsydoable in this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spizzzarko 0 #129 June 14, 2005 I like my advil in the liquid form called Sam Adams Boston Lager. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frenchy68 0 #130 June 14, 2005 Quoteno but I know where you can get some horse tranqualizers... Are they like tranquilizers but more potent? Cool! Me wanty. "For once you have tasted Absinthe you will walk the earth with your eyes turned towards the gutter, for there you have been and there you will long to return." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spizzzarko 0 #131 June 14, 2005 But they are for horses! They may not taste that good. I bet horses like them though. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lisamariewillbe 1 #132 June 14, 2005 lol your a dork....that was not a personal attack that was more giddy ha ha finally laughed ... not like the ass comment... hmmm wondering if I am going to get in trouble for calling you a dork??? Okay okay the better side of me took hold and i resend the dork comment, sighhhhhh I try to behave... sometimes it is hard...Sudsy Fist: i don't think i'd ever say this Sudsy Fist: but you're looking damn sudsydoable in this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lisamariewillbe 1 #133 June 14, 2005 I dont think they are given orally... think its more a shot in the hind quarters...Sudsy Fist: i don't think i'd ever say this Sudsy Fist: but you're looking damn sudsydoable in this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frenchy68 0 #134 June 14, 2005 Quotelol your a dork....that was not a personal attack that was more giddy ha ha finally laughed ... not like the ass comment... hmmm wondering if I am going to get in trouble for calling you a dork??? Okay okay the better side of me took hold and i resend the dork comment, sighhhhhh I try to behave... sometimes it is hard... My dear, I took your comment not as an insult, but as a compliment. "For once you have tasted Absinthe you will walk the earth with your eyes turned towards the gutter, for there you have been and there you will long to return." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frenchy68 0 #135 June 14, 2005 QuoteI dont think they are given orally... think its more a shot in the hind quarters... Screw shots. Anything else than suppository is foreplay. "For once you have tasted Absinthe you will walk the earth with your eyes turned towards the gutter, for there you have been and there you will long to return." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lisamariewillbe 1 #136 June 14, 2005 ewww suppositorys...Sudsy Fist: i don't think i'd ever say this Sudsy Fist: but you're looking damn sudsydoable in this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
craddock 0 #137 June 14, 2005 QuotePutting a child of less then 6 months old over a balcony is so different then letting a child participate in sports. Very true. By participating in sports he is at much greater risk of getting injured. That spot isn't bad at all, the winds were strong and that was the issue! It was just on the downwind side. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lisamariewillbe 1 #138 June 14, 2005 There is risk, as parents we take our childrens lives into our hands, we are there to protect them from harm, not there to potentually hurt them by making obvious bad decsions. Please forgive my spelling, it has been brought to my attention by very nice wonderful females that my grammer is less then desirable, however although I am not as smart as those wonderful woman, at least I have something to contribute besides a laugh... regardless if it is spelled wrong.Sudsy Fist: i don't think i'd ever say this Sudsy Fist: but you're looking damn sudsydoable in this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skinnyshrek 0 #139 June 14, 2005 After reading all this thread."exhausted" I don't know if any of you guys watched the jurors after the event. They were saying without a reasonable doubt. The DA couldn't prove his guilt. I personally, find jacko a fucking weirdo. But lets be honest. Would you want some of your friends or family going to prison for life because someone said you commited a crime against them. The facts were sketchy at the best of times. Should we all say he's guilty because the media portrayed this.http://www.skydivethefarm.com do you realize that when you critisize people you dont know over the internet, you become part of a growing society of twats? ARE YOU ONE OF THEM? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Michele 1 #140 June 14, 2005 Hey, Frenchy! I've got some Advil, vodka, tequila, and many other methods of keeping that headache at bay... Someone above mentioned that they were concerned for the "next victim." While that's definitely something to consider, as jurors that is NOT allowed. In this system, it is not those crimes which are thought of but not yet committed; rather, it bases itself on the "innocent until proved guilty in a court of law" that we honor. I recall sitting in a jury room, listening to how stupid I was to not convict a gang banger on the crimes he was accused of. The main theme was "the blood of his next victim is on your head" and "think about the next poor person he beats up. Convict him on that; I am..." I sat there, listening intently, and my response was to stick with my vote...there was some evidence, but not enough to make me cross the threshold of "reasonable doubt." The jury hung. Those were some difficult days, sitting there considering the fate of someone. To be responsible, and to put aside any preconception about his guilt from his appearance, or from the fact that he had several convictions prior to this one, and all the other easy way outs which made differences to the folks who were screaming for the "next victims" and placing their blood on my head and in my hands. To this day, I do not feel shamed that I voted the way I did. And I fervently pray that he was able to come back from whatever eventually occurred to him, and that there is no blood to blame on me. And if there was, it still is not something I can feel badly about, because that crime had not yet occurred; I was deciding on the evidence presented at that particular trial for that particular series of offenses, and not on future behavior. It is that particular perspective - the "put him away, I don't care if he's innocent...there may be victims in the future, so put his happy ass away!!!" that is very scary to read about. That bespeaks a violence which I find abhorrant, but people are also allowed their opinions based on whatever they choose to base them on, reality or cogent reasoning or not. I just hope that these folks, unable to put aside prejudgment, find a way to get permanently excused from jury duty. Ciels- Michele ~Do Angels keep the dreams we seek While our hearts lie bleeding?~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
swedishcelt 0 #141 June 14, 2005 QuoteAfter reading all this thread."exhausted" I don't know if any of you guys watched the jurors after the event. They were saying without a reasonable doubt. The DA couldn't prove his guilt. I personally, find jacko a fucking weirdo. But lets be honest. Would you want some of your friends or family going to prison for life because someone said you commited a crime against them. The facts were sketchy at the best of times. Should we all say he's guilty because the media portrayed this. Exactly, my opinion of MJ's mental health has nothing to do with whether or not his case was presented to prove his guilt to a point beyond reasonable doubt. The prosecution's case left doubt in my mind as well as those of his jurors. A personal opinion shouldn't sway the facts. The facts just weren't there in this court case. Whether I think he's guilty or not has nothing to do with it. And to lisamariewillbe, don't be so sensitive. For the record, I was laughing at who was correcting your grammar. We poke fun at each other all the time. It doesn't mean a thing. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
minobu 0 #142 June 14, 2005 Bingo! Our justice system was designed so that we would rather have 10 guilty people go free rather than have one innocent person put in jail. Too me that is somewhat comforting because I know I don't want to rot in a jail cell for something I didn't do. Lately there have been way too many cases where DNA has freed people that have spent 20+ years in prison for crimes they didn't commit. That to me is 1,000 times worse than MJ going free. I believe MJ is guilty but if the evidence wasn't there I guess justice won in the end (Not really but ... sigh) I would really like to see DAs that were of the same caliber as some of these high priced attorneys. Why not pay a supremely talented DA a LARGE salary to attract the best talent? Kind of even the playing field Only skydivers know why the birds sing! Jim Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Squeak 17 #143 June 14, 2005 QuoteI have justified my opinions more then enough on here. As I said before and as I will say again I believe he is a molesting son of a bitch who deserves to burn in hell, I do not need to be "intelligant" to form my own feelings on this issue , which im not, just like you do not have to be a ass to negate them. Well at least you're self awareYou are not now, nor will you ever be, good enough to not die in this sport (Sparky) My Life ROCKS! How's yours doing? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Froggy 0 #144 June 14, 2005 Oh boy, reading your posts is scary... I sure hope you'd rethink you position -- if not now, may be at some point later in your life. I don't want to repeat all arguments that many people expressed in this thread already, so I won't comment more... To me, personally, MJ is a freaking shithead -- never liked him, never will; however, the justice is about proving one guilty beyond a reasonable doubt, NOT the other way around, as you seem to think. Just think for a minute and decide for yourself if you really want a justice system which would presume someone guilty just because me, you, whoever else didn't like the guy, and make them prove their innocence. If your answer is "yes", you probably are in the "wrong era", or in the wrong country... And yes, I totally agree with everyone who said that letting someone guilty walk free is much better than sending an innocent person behind bars...-------------- We were not born to fly. And all we can do is to try not to fall... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,590 #145 June 15, 2005 QuoteDude, Have you actually read the thread, or are you just shooting from the hip? Spizzzarko: Were you reading Grants's postings, Ryoder? Ryoder: What? Spizzzarko: Were you reading Grants's postings? Ryoder: I was skydiving. Spizzzarko: So you have no frame of reference here, Ryoder. You're like a child who wanders into the middle of a movie and wants to know..."There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spizzzarko 0 #146 June 15, 2005 "Shut the fuck up Donny" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites skydivadee 0 #147 June 15, 2005 Hes Guilty as Hell, without a doubt, a filthy child molesting pervert. He should come around my bedroom and offer me a knuckle shuffle and a drink and I'll help him with his voice coaching Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Spizzzarko 0 #148 June 15, 2005 How do you know that? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites lisamariewillbe 1 #149 June 15, 2005 comments from jurors regarding the mother of the boy and her testimony #10 about in tears, nothing major to say #5 I didnt like how she snaps her fingers (cant remember #) she kept looking at us and that was uncomfortable, Wow great comments. What does this have to do with the trial?? What does this have to do with her son being a victum? When asked if they would allow their children at the neverland ranch , most said NO HMMMMMmmmmSudsy Fist: i don't think i'd ever say this Sudsy Fist: but you're looking damn sudsydoable in this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites tbrown 26 #150 June 16, 2005 "My faith in the system is restored". And with that, it's time for beer #3. Your humble servant.....Professor Gravity ! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 Next Page 6 of 7 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0
skydivadee 0 #147 June 15, 2005 Hes Guilty as Hell, without a doubt, a filthy child molesting pervert. He should come around my bedroom and offer me a knuckle shuffle and a drink and I'll help him with his voice coaching Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spizzzarko 0 #148 June 15, 2005 How do you know that? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lisamariewillbe 1 #149 June 15, 2005 comments from jurors regarding the mother of the boy and her testimony #10 about in tears, nothing major to say #5 I didnt like how she snaps her fingers (cant remember #) she kept looking at us and that was uncomfortable, Wow great comments. What does this have to do with the trial?? What does this have to do with her son being a victum? When asked if they would allow their children at the neverland ranch , most said NO HMMMMMmmmmSudsy Fist: i don't think i'd ever say this Sudsy Fist: but you're looking damn sudsydoable in this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tbrown 26 #150 June 16, 2005 "My faith in the system is restored". And with that, it's time for beer #3. Your humble servant.....Professor Gravity ! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
