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I wonder what this eagle-dude's response would be if stopped by the same officer....



P-L-E-E-E-A-A-A-S-E..............
O-F-F-I-C-C-C-C-E-R-R-R-R-R......
S-S-S-S-T-O-P-P-P-P-P......
T-A-S-S-S-I-N-G-G-G.........
M-E-E-E-E-E-.........
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Officer Falling Chip,
Are you now or have you ever been a member of the Fraternal Order of Police?
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The only way a speaker will register a speed on a speed measuring instrument is if you were to point the antenna directly down onto the face of the speaker. It will not detect and/or register the VIBRATION it will detect the speed, however, of the movement the speaker makes in and out while operating.

Officer Falling Chip,
Do you have a doctorate in Physics? If not don't you think the state would be better served if the jury were to base their opinion,as to the limitations of radar equipment ,more solidly on the testimony of the states' expert witness,than on your own?

This statement from the prosecutions' own *expert* witness implies that vibrations from the vehicle *can* cause the "instruments to read incorrectly".

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If I am sitting on the side of the road doing paperwork and the Doppler Tone goes off and I look at the instruments display and see a speed of 65 MPH, but when I look up you are passing me and I can't get a visual estimation of your speed...I can't stop you.
__________________________________________________ You mean that you *legaly* Can't stop someone. Isn't that what you mean, Officer Falling Chip?

Surely you are not suggesting that the lack of a visual estimate of speed would prevent an unethical police officer from turning on the blue lights and stopping a vehicle. Is that correct?
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Did the officer on the scene, the one making the arrest ,know of the limitations of the equipment?
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Yep he sure did.
Every state in the US requires an officer to be certified in the use of speed measuring instruments before using them. Each state has different requirements in gaining the certification, but the minimum classroom hours I know of is 65 combined with a minimum of 40 hours of roadside practical exams and visual speed estimations.
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And knowing the limitations of the equipment he pulled her over anyway!
That is amazing in the Land of the Free!! Isn't it Ladies and Gentlemen?
Here the States' own Expert witness has testified that vibrations from the vehicle *can* cause the "instruments to read incorrectly".
The officer knows this ,yet he pulls over and detains citizens based on readings he gets on this faulty equipment.
God bless America! We need it more today than ever!!!!!

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Shouldn't a prudent law enforcement officer consider *all of the facts* before tossing around ACCUSATIONS and making Arrests of the law abiding citizens?


First, explain how you feel she was a "law abiding citizen"
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She was a citizen, Right Officer Falling Chip? Can we agree on that? Yes, she was Black.., but still, she was a citizen . Can we agree on that point before we go any further?

Now.. , if you have agreed to that one point,
that she is a citizen, even if she is BLACK, we can move on and you can drop the questions of her citizenship and race.

So to answer your other question, Officer Falling Chip;" First, explain how you feel she was a "law abiding citizen".

As the nice Lady hasn't yet been convicted of any crime ,we pressume that she is innocent of every crime.
That's how it is supposed to be in America.
I'm not sure how y'all in Jesse Helms' homestate play it But.., the presumption of innocence is a fundamental law of the United States Of America.
You seem to be working under another premise. Perhaps one where black woman are guilty from jump street?

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Cliff
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to a girl whose mother knew a cop who was honest and intelligent

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Is he a member of the Fraternal Order of Police?
The white cop organization with ties to freemasonry and Albert Pike?



You just proved you don't have a clue what your talking (typing) about.

F.O.P. (Fraternal Order of Police) has more African American officers as members than any other police organization in the country
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So this FOP, this Masonic organisation does keep redcords and statistics as to race?
The "Brothers" aren't just "brothers" some are "black brothers", others are "white brothers".

Tell me, Officer Falling Chip,
Do these FOP meetings allow non members to observe each and every meeting in entirety?

Blues,
Cliff
Fourth cousin to "Fish"on Barney Miller

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I wonder what this eagle-dude's response would be if stopped by the same officer....



P-L-E-E-E-A-A-A-S-E..............
O-F-F-I-C-C-C-C-E-R-R-R-R-R......
S-S-S-S-T-O-P-P-P-P-P......
T-A-S-S-S-I-N-G-G-G.........
M-E-E-E-E-E-.........
:D


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I don't know guys.
I squall like a woman when I get a slight carpet shock.;)
But if I get pulled over I'm unloadin on that racist ,rights abusin' bastard with my 9 before he even gets too close to my pimpin' ride!!!

Blues,
Cliff
Brother in law to the 7th cousin twice removed to a freind of John Dillinger,
Good pal to a guy who once heard a speech by Malcom X

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Officer Falling Chip,
Are you now or have you ever been a member of the Fraternal Order of Police?

Nope. I choose another.
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Officer Falling Chip,
Do you have a doctorate in Physics? If not don't you think the state would be better served if the jury were to base their opinion,as to the limitations of radar equipment ,more solidly on the testimony of the states' expert witness,than on your own?
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Nope I have a BS in Criminal Justice.
The state, judge, and jury doesn't hear any testimony from me on Physics. They have heard it from Physicist in my cases and guess what...based on my proper procedure in the use of the instruments, convictions were made.
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This statement from the prosecutions' own *expert* witness implies that vibrations from the vehicle *can* cause the "instruments to read incorrectly".
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What statement? You must have forgot to post it. Regardless, I have heard an "expert witness" say that cocaine is odorless, but testimony thrown out do to another "expert witness testifying that K-9's detect it by smell.
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If I am sitting on the side of the road doing paperwork and the Doppler Tone goes off and I look at the instruments display and see a speed of 65 MPH, but when I look up you are passing me and I can't get a visual estimation of your speed...I can't stop you.
__________________________________________________ You mean that you *legaly* Can't stop someone. Isn't that what you mean, Officer Falling Chip?
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Re-read the posting. If you want to pick out a part of what I post twist it and make an argument then don't reply. If you make a point that is intelligent and has merit I will agree, but you are posting what you claim to be fact and you get proven wrong each time.
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Surely you are not suggesting that the lack of a visual estimate of speed would prevent an unethical police officer from turning on the blue lights and stopping a vehicle. Is that correct?
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This officer was unethical how? What is your opinion on the black officer who is justifying the actions of the white officer.
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And knowing the limitations of the equipment he pulled her over anyway!
That is amazing in the Land of the Free!! Isn't it Ladies and Gentlemen?
Here the States' own Expert witness has testified that vibrations from the vehicle *can* cause the "instruments to read incorrectly".
The officer knows this ,yet he pulls over and detains citizens based on readings he gets on this faulty equipment.
God bless America! We need it more today than ever!!!!!
__________________________________________________________

Yep and he pulled her over legally and justifiably.

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She was a citizen, Right Officer Falling Chip? Can we agree on that? Yes, she was Black.., but still, she was a citizen . Can we agree on that point before we go any further?

Now.. , if you have agreed to that one point,
that she is a citizen, even if she is BLACK, we can move on and you can drop the questions of her citizenship and race.

So to answer your other question, Officer Falling Chip;" First, explain how you feel she was a "law abiding citizen".

As the nice Lady hasn't yet been convicted of any crime ,we pressume that she is innocent of every crime.
That's how it is supposed to be in America.
I'm not sure how y'all in Jesse Helms' homestate play it But.., the presumption of innocence is a fundamental law of the United States Of America.
You seem to be working under another premise. Perhaps one where black woman are guilty from jump street?
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The "innocent until proven guilty" isn't an excuse not to abide by the law.
Is it justifiable to rape or murder children not be arrested because of this. You would be the first in line bitching if you were a victim of a crime and the police told you they won't be arrested cause they are innocent until...

By the way my partner is black. This past weekend he tased a black man who was in the process of beating his wife. Was that racist or would it have been if me being a white officer tased him?

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-Franklin Delano Roosevelt

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Tell me, Officer Falling Chip,
Do these FOP meetings allow non members to observe each and every meeting in entirety?



No, that why it's called a frateranty...:S

By the way...it's Officer Fallingchip not Officer Falling (space) Chip.:D
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But if I get pulled over I'm unloadin on that racist ,rights abusin' bastard with my 9 before he even gets too close to my pimpin' ride!!!



And with that quote I now understand what level of maturity in which you occupy. I will no longer entertain you nor allow myself to be entertained by you.

Good Night.
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But if I get pulled over I'm unloadin on that racist ,rights abusin' bastard with my 9 before he even gets too close to my pimpin' ride!!!



Hell yeah--kill whitey!!!:D

C'mon--I think you need to chill out!!!

Seriously, if I were to pull the same crap that driver pulled, I would expect worse than what she got. Her skin color does not make her exempt from the law. Play the race card all you want--it was her actions that got her in deep shit.

By the way, do you REALLY think your assumption of racism give you a license to kill? I seriously doubt it!!!

Fair or not, the reality in this country and (my guess) pretty much every other country in the world is that when being detained by police, you only have the rights that the officer chooses to give you at that moment. It's the well-known "you can beat the rap, but you can't beat the ride" thing. All you can reasonably do is keep your mouth shut, go along with the program, and argue your case with a judge later.

The only exception I can think of is if the police officer is committing a crime that presents a threat of serious bodily injury to you. In Texas, that gives you the legal right to use deadly force just as if the officer were any other murderous criminal. What was shown in the video was not even close to being that kind of situation.

All the lady needed to do was shut up and follow the program. She would have been fine. Better yet, she could have avoided the whole mess by not driving on a suspended license.

Walt

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Hey. Is that a black helicopter over your house? And who is that man with the sunglasses standing over at the corner. Watch out. It's "WHITEY" and he's coming to get you.:S

"If you have time to panic, you have time to do something more productive."
Josh Whipple 7/15/70-2/10/05

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Considetring the Prosecutions testimony, can you still say ,without a shadow of a doubt , that this nice BLACK woman was speeding?



Yep, since she passed the unmarked police car like it was standing still.

Also radar and its limitations have NOTHING to do with the broken tail light, windshield, or the stupid woman driving on a SUSPENDED LICENSE.

She was a criminal (Driving on a suspended license), driving fast (Who cares what the *Exact* speed was...It was faster than the speed limit), with a broken tail light, and a bad windshield.

Please, try to explain how her driving on a SUSPENDED license could have been done by the radar gun.

She did not get tazered because she was black no matter how many times you claim that. She got tazered because she was resisting arrest after breaking multiple laws.

But please, do try to explain them all away, your replies are quite comical. And your self promotion makes me laugh.
"No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

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If she had gotten out of the car and was respectful, would she not just gotten quitely arrested? Was she breaking the law by speeding or driving on a suspended Lic? Her speeding and subsequent failure to exit the vehicle at the request of the uniformed officers (a lawful order) are crimes.

If she had not been speeding or driving on s suspended lic this never would have happened.

If we do something wrong and we get hurt as a result, did we not still do something wrong to start the chain of events that ended in us getting hurt?

"You did what?!?!"

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Maybe he is the black chick in question:P
"No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

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But if I get pulled over I'm unloadin on that racist ,rights abusin' bastard with my 9 before he even gets too close to my pimpin' ride!!!



And with that quote I now understand what level of maturity in which you occupy. I will no longer entertain you nor allow myself to be entertained by you.



Right response. It's pretty clear he's trolling now. I would say that everyone should just lighten up and read this thread for the humor aspect, but I wouldn't expect you to take this last remark in that manner.

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Birdbrain is definitely a troll, and you know what we do with trolls in these parts.................Get a rope and hang em!


Seriously, there is no way this guy is a skydiver. Nobody that ignorant or paranoid could make it onto, or back off of a DZ. Besides, everyone knows that skydiving is fo dem carzy honkys. :S

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Nope... we ignore them.


Or, we could make up songs.

"Stir, stir, stir the pot;
Roil up the stew!
Posting and trolling and posting and trolling,
That is what you do!!!"

(ps...with all due respect to the original song...
Row row row your boat
Gently down the stream
Merrily, merrily merrily merrily
Life is but a dream)

Ciels-
Michele


~Do Angels keep the dreams we seek
While our hearts lie bleeding?~

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