When is smoking in a home with children going to become illegal?

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Funny. All across the country children are abused and it is allowed. We know second hand smoke is worse than smoking itself yet kids are allowed to be exposed. A 5 year old can't smoke but is allowed by law to breath something worse. Second hand smoke from irresponsible, selfish mommy and daddy.

I think parents that smoke in cars or in homes with children are abusers. It should be against the law..

Rhino

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I don't know if it should be illegal or not, but it's a compelling issue. One of my high school friends had bad asthma, requiring continual, daily use of inhalers and other drugs. Yet, her mother, a "good church going Catholic," (sarcasm off), smoked like an eff-ing chimney! It was so bad, the friend had to move away from her mother. I understand addictions, and how difficult they can be to stop, but shit, if you CAN'T quit, at least smoke outside of the presence of your kids. And not just b/c you're subjecting them to second hand smoke (which, in this case could really have shortened the life of my friend), but b/c you're also being a bad example to your kids -- mommy or daddy is a slave to a drug at worst, or at least careless and reckless w/ their health at best.

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I think parents that smoke in cars or in homes with children are abusers. It should be against the law..

Rhino

Agree!

And parents who let their kids play outside in the sun should be shot!!



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We know second hand smoke is worse than smoking itself

Uh, no it's not. It's certainly not inhaled in nearly the quantity as 'primary' smoke.

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We know second hand smoke is worse than smoking itself yet kids are allowed to be exposed.

What? Huh? Dude get a grip.

That spot isn't bad at all, the winds were strong and that was the issue! It was just on the downwind side.

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What? Huh? Dude get a grip.

When you smoke a butt head you "normally" have a filter. The smoke coming off of the end of that butthead is not filtered..

I have a grip. Why don't you get some common sense.

Rhino

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When you smoke a butt head you "normally" have a filter. The smoke coming off of the end of that butthead is not filtered

And your point is? Or do you just like to point out the obvious.

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Why don't you get some common sense.

common sense tells us that it is much more dangerous to smoke that to just breath second hand smoke. I have never got a buzz from second hand smoke. I get a buzz everytime I actually smoke.

Second hand smoke is the least of most kids worries. Kids ski, race MX, freestyle, skateboard, spend time in the sun, and you are worried about second hand smoke. If you are that worried about it don't let your kids around people that smoke. That's common sense. Don't tell me how to raise my kids though

That spot isn't bad at all, the winds were strong and that was the issue! It was just on the downwind side.

[JoeyRamone 0]

I think the counrty needs to work on some other issues first like making sure all the dam kids have food on the table, a roof over the head and some warm cloths, lets not get big brother involved in everything, Did your parents or any relatives ever smoke around you as a kid? If so,have you went and kicked the crap out of them for making your childhood full of smoke?

I smoke but i do it out side only, not in the house or in the car.

[n23x 0]

Kids in the past seem to have grown up just fine.

But I suppose there will always be those that complain about anything.

Excess consumption of anything can be bad. I agree, the parents should, ideally, keep the smoking away from the children, but I also don't think it's something to get your panties in a twist in.

Any references regarding your second-hand smoke cause more damage BS? Or is this something you pulled off of one of the "truth" campaigns?

.jim

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I think the counrty needs to work on some other issues first like making sure all the dam kids have food on the table, a roof over the head and some warm cloths, lets not get big brother involved in everything,..

amen

.jim

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I think parents that smoke in cars or in homes with children are abusers. It should be against the law..

$5 says your estranged wife smokes aound the kids.

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Funny. All across the country children are abused and it is allowed. We know second hand smoke is worse than smoking itself yet kids are allowed to be exposed. A 5 year old can't smoke but is allowed by law to breath something worse. Second hand smoke from irresponsible, selfish mommy and daddy.

I think parents that smoke in cars or in homes with children are abusers. It should be against the law..

Rhino

For once, we agree on something. It is friken criminal.... why won't the gov disallow cig companies to illegalize it altogether? Why, in the recent product liability suit did the gov allow them to keep making a dangerous product? Fascism....

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What? Huh? Dude get a grip.

When you smoke a butt head you "normally" have a filter. The smoke coming off of the end of that butthead is not filtered..

I have a grip. Why don't you get some common sense.

Rhino

This is ridiculous, who cares, it's fucking arsenic poison in whatever doses - it shouldbe outllawed but in private w/o kids.

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When you smoke a butt head you "normally" have a filter. The smoke coming off of the end of that butthead is not filtered

And your point is? Or do you just like to point out the obvious.

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Why don't you get some common sense.

common sense tells us that it is much more dangerous to smoke that to just breath second hand smoke. I have never got a buzz from second hand smoke. I get a buzz everytime I actually smoke.

Second hand smoke is the least of most kids worries. Kids ski, race MX, freestyle, skateboard, spend time in the sun, and you are worried about second hand smoke. If you are that worried about it don't let your kids around people that smoke. That's common sense. Don't tell me how to raise my kids though

Is that the new silly argument from the smoking sector? The sun is harmful?

1. An individual chooses to be exposed or notto the sun.

2. Sunblock can be worn and that issue is moot.

3. People don't choose to be exposed to second hand smoke all the time, and those that don't should be allowed not tobe exposed, kids or adults.

I have never got a buzz from second hand smoke.

You're a smoker.

Second hand smoke is the least of most kids

Are you taking about the kids at never;and ranch?

If you are that worried about it don't let your kids around people that smoke.

As a parent you have a special relationship contract to look out for them, so what if a smoker chooses to smoke in the proximity of their kids, who's there to keep the kids from a smoking environment?

That's common sense. Don't tell me how to raise my kids though


If you smoke in confined spaces with them, I hope Child Protective Svs tells you how to raise them.

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I think the counrty needs to work on some other issues first like making sure all the dam kids have food on the table, a roof over the head and some warm cloths, lets not get big brother involved in everything, Did your parents or any relatives ever smoke around you as a kid? If so,have you went and kicked the crap out of them for making your childhood full of smoke?

I smoke but i do it out side only, not in the house or in the car.

I shoot my gun, but never in the house or in the car. I just step outside and shoot it up in the air.

[n23x 0]

You drive a car? Suprise, you pollute "clean air".

Power your house off of anything other than wind, water, or geothermal? Suprise, you pollute "clean air".

Won't you think of the children?

.jim

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Every now and then you have to say, what the fuck

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You're a smoker.

Uh... really? Because I have smoked one before? I think they are a disgusting habit alhtough I have been know to bum one while I was drinking before. My wife smoked before she was pregnant and it drove me fucking nuts. I would hardly call myself a smoker. They make me sick unless I am drunk.

Still second hand smoke has never bothered me although those that I know that smoke in their house have air purifiers and such. My Wife's side of the family smokes heavily. Malboro Red and her Grandpa has smoked Camel straights sense he was 12. They never smoke in the house though. Most people don't that I know.

That spot isn't bad at all, the winds were strong and that was the issue! It was just on the downwind side.

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Kids in the past seem to have grown up just fine.

But I suppose there will always be those that complain about anything.

...there you go, folks...all rolled up into a little ball of wisdom and truth for you....

Good stuff n23x.

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You drive a car? Suprise, you pollute "clean air".

Power your house off of anything other than wind, water, or geothermal? Suprise, you pollute "clean air".

Won't you think of the children?

.jim

I live w/a GF who smokes, so I understand the addiction that leads to bizzare rationalizations. I just kicked caffeine in January, so I understand maybe 10% of what a bitch it is to have that kind of addiction. I think virtualy all smokers want to quit and I feel for ya, but to compare mass transit or private transit in connection with jobs, groceries, etc is really reaching.

Smoking is a useless compulsion/activity/habit, etc... Driving a car to work to keep the aircraft flying is useful and the world would come to a halt o everyone quit doing it.

I can, we all can pollute the air in the effort to get to work; we shouldn't pollute other people's personal space with carcinogens so we can perpetuate our compulsions.

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You're a smoker.

Uh... really? Because I have smoked one before? I think they are a disgusting habit alhtough I have been know to bum one while I was drinking before. My wife smoked before she was pregnant and it drove me fucking nuts. I would hardly call myself a smoker. They make me sick unless I am drunk.

Still second hand smoke has never bothered me although those that I know that smoke in their house have air purifiers and such. My Wife's side of the family smokes heavily. Malboro Red and her Grandpa has smoked Camel straights sense he was 12. They never smoke in the house though. Most people don't that I know.

Again, read the above post. I feel for ya man. It is a mother fucker to quit, so I hear. I have some people at work I really respect and they're almost in tears cause they can't quit. WTF. That doesn't mean we should push it off on others who choose not to smoke. Just like the thread about the lady who got killed by a street racer - you don't have the right to push off your or mt problems. habits, events, compulsions on others.

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Again, read the above post. I feel for ya man. It is a mother fucker to quit, so I hear. I have some people at work I really respect and they're almost in tears cause they can't quit. WTF. That doesn't mean we should push it off on others who choose not to smoke. Just like the thread about the lady who got killed by a street racer - you don't have the right to push off your or mt problems. habits, events, compulsions on others.

wtf are you talking about? Because I have smoked a few times in the past I am addicted? WTF. That's funny. My apologies if that is not what your implying. But if not I don't know what your point is

That spot isn't bad at all, the winds were strong and that was the issue! It was just on the downwind side.

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I think parents that smoke in cars or in homes with children are abusers. It should be against the law..

$5 says your estranged wife smokes aound the kids.

No bet, but while we're on the subject, I'd like to take a moment to wish this poor women peace and success in her efforts to recover her life.

jen

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I can, we all can pollute the air in the effort to get to work; we shouldn't pollute other people's personal space with carcinogens so we can perpetuate our compulsions.

Holy crap.. We agree on something@!

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I think parents that smoke in cars or in homes with children are abusers.

Yes, but it's a different degree than something like hitting them. It's more like neglect which is a less escalatory term.

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It should be against the law

You can't legislate courtesy, you can't legislate intelligence.

But as individuals, we can be decent to those who find ways to get their fix without affecting the rest of us. And be direct with the assholes. Remember, smoking is the epitomy of selfish behavior. So we need to recognize those smokers that understand that from those that don't.

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