TomAiello 26
Quoteyour killin me.......
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Not me ,Brother.
I only wish you Peace and Happiness.
Blues,
Cliff
QuoteQuoteSure I can provide a link. Would you prefer one to a news text or would you rather view the video interview of the man contracted to conduct the exercises?
Both would be great, thanks.
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Here's an article that just popped up. The site may have an agenda but they also link the interview
I can link to other sites if you prefer, but this one just came up with no digging.
Blues,
Cliff
(edited to add link!!!!! LOL!!! Don't know where my head is today! Hey no helpful suggestions !!!)
http://www.onlinejournal.com/Commentary/071305Leonard/071305leonard.html
QuoteWhat DZ do you jump at?
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That's the second time you asked.
You do realize that I'm trying to get mr2mk1mgmMCA to commit to a wager ,don't you?
Do you "Gravitymaster " want some of the betting action?
How much are you willing to wager on whether or not I'm one of those sky jumpers?
Blues,
Cliff
QuoteQuoteWhat DZ do you jump at?
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That's the second time you asked.
You do realize that I'm trying to get mr2mk1mgmMCA to commit to a wager ,don't you?
Do you "Gravitymaster " want some of the betting action?
How much are you willing to wager on whether or not I'm one of those sky jumpers?
Blues,
Cliff
Damn Bro, relax. I just asked where you jump. So where do you jump?
Damn Bro, relax. I just asked where you jump. So where do you jump?
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(Pointing).., Up there.
Blues,
Cliff
Michele 1
QuoteThe site may have an agenda
Ya think?
ROFL.
So...where do you jump?
Ciels-
Michele
~Do Angels keep the dreams we seek
While our hearts lie bleeding?~
TomAiello 26
You know, if we're discussing politics, it's not real relevant where he jumps, or even if he jumps.
I mean, if you asked me the same question, "what DZ do you jump at?" I wouldn't be able to provide a satisfactory answer.
It's not like he's giving advice on hook turns or something.
I mean, if you asked me the same question, "what DZ do you jump at?" I wouldn't be able to provide a satisfactory answer.
It's not like he's giving advice on hook turns or something.
-- Tom Aiello
Tom@SnakeRiverBASE.com
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So...where do you jump?
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Listen, Do you doubt that I'm a fancy lad sky jumper like y'all?
Do you doubt that I have one of those *body bag suits* with the easy grip(tm) solution?
Do you want a piece of the action?
Ask Treejumps if he paid up on the wager we made on another thread.
So how much you in for ,Honey?
Blues,
Cliff
PS, all my winnings will go toward educating newbies so wager large , wager often.
In the old days those kids would get help for free. Nowadays they have to pay outrageous sums for a little coachin.
Michele
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Listen, Do you doubt that I'm a fancy lad sky jumper like y'all?
Do you doubt that I have one of those *body bag suits* with the easy grip(tm) solution?
Do you want a piece of the action?
Ask Treejumps if he paid up on the wager we made on another thread.
So how much you in for ,Honey?
Blues,
Cliff
PS, all my winnings will go toward educating newbies so wager large , wager often.
In the old days those kids would get help for free. Nowadays they have to pay outrageous sums for a little coachin.
Michele
Michele 1
I know what you're saying, and frankly, Tom, I don't care if he jumps. But if he does, why the hesitation to post where? Because his views are so anti-semitic, polarizing and simply hate filled that he'd get challenged? Or because...???
Dunno why. I have my opinions as to if he does or does not jump, and who he is...we've seen his kind before. But still, I think there is something to be said about answering a question asked frankly and directly...and not answering.
Similar to his ignoring my very direct question of what he has against the Jews.
So, Eaglenrider, before you get banned again, where do you jump, and what exactly is your problem with Jews?
Ciels-
Michele
~Do Angels keep the dreams we seek
While our hearts lie bleeding?~
Dunno why. I have my opinions as to if he does or does not jump, and who he is...we've seen his kind before. But still, I think there is something to be said about answering a question asked frankly and directly...and not answering.
Similar to his ignoring my very direct question of what he has against the Jews.
So, Eaglenrider, before you get banned again, where do you jump, and what exactly is your problem with Jews?
Ciels-
Michele
~Do Angels keep the dreams we seek
While our hearts lie bleeding?~
QuoteYou know, if we're discussing politics, it's not real relevant where he jumps, or even if he jumps.
I mean, if you asked me the same question, "what DZ do you jump at?" I wouldn't be able to provide a satisfactory answer.
It's not like he's giving advice on hook turns or something.
Gee Tom. This is a skydiving web site. I don't think it's odd for me to ask where someone jumps, do you? I don't care if he isn't a jumper but if he isn't, why doesn't he just say he doesn't jump? Whats the big deal?
TomAiello 26
I can definitely see how a willingness to answer (or not) would be more important than the actual answer.
-- Tom Aiello
Tom@SnakeRiverBASE.com
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Tom@SnakeRiverBASE.com
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Michele 1
QuoteI can definitely see how a willingness to answer (or not) would be more important than the actual answer.
And I think that's the point, at least in part. If he's not willing to answer direct questions about rather suspicious beliefs he holds, then I am left thinking either he can't answer them, for whatever reason, or he realizes his views are so far out in left field they've disappeared.
Furthermore, if he is a jumper, 'twould be interesting to meet with him over a beer or two and discuss his theories more thoroughly. If he's not a jumper, why come to a skydiving website at all?
I dunno...he just seems to be a tad - - - well, it would be a personal attack to say what I'm thinking, so I won't. Just that until he is able to answer the questions he's asked - including those about his views - I doubt he will get much respect and/or adherents here.
Ciels-
Michele
~Do Angels keep the dreams we seek
While our hearts lie bleeding?~
I think he's providing himself with "Most Excellent Entertainment"
Michele 1
QuoteListen, Do you doubt that I'm a fancy lad sky jumper like y'all?
Dunno, and don't care.
QuoteDo you doubt that I have one of those *body bag suits* with the easy grip(tm) solution?
Dunno, and don't care.
QuoteDo you want a piece of the action?
I don't place wagers, thanks. And there's no other "action" you could offer me that I'd be even the slightest bit interested in. So no thanks.
QuoteAsk Treejumps if he paid up on the wager we made on another thread.
Back to dunno, and don't care.
QuoteSo how much you in for ,Honey?
None...and you're right. I am a Honey.
QuotePS, all my winnings will go toward educating newbies so wager large , wager often. In the old days those kids would get help for free. Nowadays they have to pay outrageous sums for a little coachin.
I have someone (a few, actually) who are willing to coach me for free, at great risk to their lives. They're pretty cool. Help is around if one looks for it...didn't you get any?
BTW...
Where do you jump?
What exactly do you have against the Jews?
Ciels-
Michele
~Do Angels keep the dreams we seek
While our hearts lie bleeding?~
So, Eaglenrider, before you get banned again, where do you jump, and what exactly is your problem with Jews?
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I have no problem with Jews. I do have a problem with the Israeli Government .
The Israeli government has been spying on the US for quite some time. I don't know,Michelle, whether or not you realize this.
Michelle, you portray yourself as a patriot. As such do you support countries which have attacked US Navy Vessels and tried to make us believe it was an Egyptian attack?
Would you support a supposed ally who stole US secrets and sold them to the Chinese?
What is it about Israel , Michelle, which you love so much? Why do you love Israel before your own country? Or is it that you just have not researched enough to know the Truth ?
Blues,
Cliff
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I have no problem with Jews. I do have a problem with the Israeli Government .
The Israeli government has been spying on the US for quite some time. I don't know,Michelle, whether or not you realize this.
Michelle, you portray yourself as a patriot. As such do you support countries which have attacked US Navy Vessels and tried to make us believe it was an Egyptian attack?
Would you support a supposed ally who stole US secrets and sold them to the Chinese?
What is it about Israel , Michelle, which you love so much? Why do you love Israel before your own country? Or is it that you just have not researched enough to know the Truth ?
Blues,
Cliff
Don Jardine?
Gee..this thread got quiet all of the sudden. 
Michele 1
QuoteI have no problem with Jews. I do have a problem with the Israeli Government .
You mean the jews in their government?
QuoteThe Israeli government has been spying on the US for quite some time. I don't know,Michelle, whether or not you realize this.
Dear Eagllenrider, I do realize it. Similar to all the other spying which goes on, in every country, by everyone.
QuoteMichelle, you portray yourself as a patriot. As such do you support countries which have attacked US Navy Vessels and tried to make us believe it was an Egyptian attack?
I do not support that particular action, but I most certainly support Israel and the Jews. Especially against hatemongers and conspiracies that have no place in reasoning and logical minds; conspiracies like the ones you support live deep in the darkest recesses of the minds like David Icke, the man who believes in Reptilian Shape Changers and whatnot. People like him are rather difficult to take seriously, especially after one looks a little more closely at the supposed evidence they demonstrate.
QuoteWould you support a supposed ally who stole US secrets and sold them to the Chinese?
Like Wen Ho Lee and Clinton?
QuoteWhat is it about Israel , Michelle, which you love so much? Why do you love Israel before your own country? Or is it that you just have not researched enough to know the Truth ?
What is it about Israel that you loathe so much? As for my researching, that hasn't a thing to do with your conspiracy theories. as for the 'Truth', as you say, being recognized, it is not your truth which is real. Therefore, it isn't truth.
And btw...
You still haven't answered my questions.
What have you got against the Jews? (questioning me about my beliefs is not an adequate answer...'Don' that thinking cap, if you can, and see if you can't come up with your own reasons...)
And where do you jump? Please be a peach and answer...
Ciels-
Michele
~Do Angels keep the dreams we seek
While our hearts lie bleeding?~
I don't place wagers, thanks. And there's no other "action" you could offer me that I'd be even the slightest bit interested in. __________________________________________________
LOL!!
That's funny stuff!! Good on Ya!!
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So no thanks.
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"no thanks."?
HEH.., HuH,HUH!!!...,
you already coming back for the action ,Darlin'.
You never had to respond to my posts but you couldn't hep yo'self.
"no thanks."? HEH,,HEH!
OK, Doll.
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None...and you're right. I am a Honey.
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And you were just dying to let m know! LOL!
"no thanks." ? LOL!"don't want that action"LOL
Listen Michelle, all this bulshit is unnecesary.
Try PM ing me but be more civil, more like honey and less vinegary . That's how to get a better chance at what you need.
Blues,
Cliff
LOL!!
That's funny stuff!! Good on Ya!!
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So no thanks.
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"no thanks."?
HEH.., HuH,HUH!!!...,
you already coming back for the action ,Darlin'.
You never had to respond to my posts but you couldn't hep yo'self.
"no thanks."? HEH,,HEH!
OK, Doll.
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None...and you're right. I am a Honey.
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And you were just dying to let m know! LOL!
"no thanks." ? LOL!"don't want that action"LOL
Listen Michelle, all this bulshit is unnecesary.
Try PM ing me but be more civil, more like honey and less vinegary . That's how to get a better chance at what you need.
Blues,
Cliff
Michele 1
*** Listen Michelle, all this bulshit is unnecesary.
Try PM ing me but be more civil, more like honey and less vinegary . That's how to get a better chance at what you need. [/.quote]
Ah. I get it. Not only are you a conspiracy theorist, but you are psychic and know what I need. ROFLMAO. You haven't anything I either want or need, Darlin'. Not a thing. Too bad for you, isn't that?
And you still haven't bothered to answer.
What exactly have you got against the jews, and where do you jump?
Ciels-
Michele
~Do Angels keep the dreams we seek
While our hearts lie bleeding?~
Try PM ing me but be more civil, more like honey and less vinegary . That's how to get a better chance at what you need. [/.quote]
Ah. I get it. Not only are you a conspiracy theorist, but you are psychic and know what I need. ROFLMAO. You haven't anything I either want or need, Darlin'. Not a thing. Too bad for you, isn't that?
And you still haven't bothered to answer.
What exactly have you got against the jews, and where do you jump?
Ciels-
Michele
~Do Angels keep the dreams we seek
While our hearts lie bleeding?~
QuoteQuoteI have no problem with Jews. I do have a problem with the Israeli Government .
You mean the jews in their government?
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No, I mean what I said.., the Israeli government.
__________________________________________________QuoteThe Israeli government has been spying on the US for quite some time. I don't know,Michelle, whether or not you realize this.
Dear Eagllenrider, I do realize it. Similar to all the other spying which goes on, in every country, by everyone.
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So you love the Israeli government even as you know they spy on us constantly"? Even knowing that they are stealing our secrets and selling them to the Chinese?
Do you realize ,Michelle ,that we give the Israelis over $10 billion each year?
And you still love them even when they spy on us?
Now Im starting to have serious doubts about this thing working out between you and I, Michelle.
If I give you $10 Billion, I'll feel betrayed if you take all my top secrets and sell them to the Chinese!
But you seem to thinkthat's OK and accepted behaviour amongst freinds.
Blues,
CliffQuoteMichelle, you portray yourself as a patriot. As such do you support countries which have attacked US Navy Vessels and tried to make us believe it was an Egyptian attack?
I do not support that particular action, but I most certainly support Israel and the Jews. Especially against hatemongers and conspiracies that have no place in reasoning and logical minds; conspiracies like the ones you support live deep in the darkest recesses of the minds like David Icke, the man who believes in Reptilian Shape Changers and whatnot. People like him are rather difficult to take seriously, especially after one looks a little more closely at the supposed evidence they demonstrate.QuoteWould you support a supposed ally who stole US secrets and sold them to the Chinese?
Like Wen Ho Lee and Clinton?QuoteWhat is it about Israel , Michelle, which you love so much? Why do you love Israel before your own country? Or is it that you just have not researched enough to know the Truth ?
What is it about Israel that you loathe so much? As for my researching, that hasn't a thing to do with your conspiracy theories. as for the 'Truth', as you say, being recognized, it is not your truth which is real. Therefore, it isn't truth.
And btw...
You still haven't answered my questions.
What have you got against the Jews? (questioning me about my beliefs is not an adequate answer...'Don' that thinking cap, if you can, and see if you can't come up with your own reasons...)
And where do you jump? Please be a peach and answer...
Ciels-
Michele
Michele 1
QuoteNow Im starting to have serious doubts about this thing working out between you and I, Michelle.
And here I was, thinking you might just be my knight in shining armour. Drat and darn and drat again. I geddit...that's why you won't tell us where you jump!
Ciels-
Michele
~Do Angels keep the dreams we seek
While our hearts lie bleeding?~
And here I was, thinking you might just be my knight in shining armour. Drat and darn and drat again. I geddit...that's why you won't tell us where you jump!
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You know.., I have enough problems with groupies as it is. Can you imagine if I posted my home DZ???
Hopefully you can satiate your desires by knowing that you are in the same sky as I this weekend.
OK.., I know that won't put out the fires burning in your loins, but I'm sure there are some "very nice boys" closer to your home.
Forget about me , Michelle.., I'd leave you with a broken heart.
Blues,
Cliff
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You know.., I have enough problems with groupies as it is. Can you imagine if I posted my home DZ???
Hopefully you can satiate your desires by knowing that you are in the same sky as I this weekend.
OK.., I know that won't put out the fires burning in your loins, but I'm sure there are some "very nice boys" closer to your home.
Forget about me , Michelle.., I'd leave you with a broken heart.
Blues,
Cliff
Both would be great, thanks.
Tom@SnakeRiverBASE.com
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