10th planet... Food for thought... From a friend...

[rhino 0]

I believe it causes global upheavals every cycle. I think the cycle is 2,600 years. Last one was what ancient texts refer to as the Great Flood (The Bible ripped off the actual story and uses the Noah story here). All I know is the next one is predicted by many ancients including nearly all of the Indians on this continent in…. 2012.

Zacharia Sitchin PREDICTED 10 years ago that scientists would eventually be able to see this planet emerging near Pluto about 5-6 years before it cycles near the Earth. It is NOT on the same orbital path as the other 9 planets. We go one way, it goes the other… which brings it incredibly close to Earth… and that makes for very bad things….

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At the distances and with the masses involved the gravitational influence of this planet on ours is miniscule. My guess is Louie Anderson exerts more gravitational influence on our planet than this new 10th one does.

If you're looking for why our planet is warming up, one need not look any further than mankind's own doing. This is not theory nor mystery. It's a fact. Global warming -is- happening. It's happening now and we're the cause.

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[storm1977 0]

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At the distances and with the masses involved the gravitational influence of this planet on ours is miniscule. My guess is Louie Anderson exerts more gravitational influence on our planet than this new 10th one does.

If you're looking for why our planet is warming up, one need not look any further than mankind's own doing. This is not theory nor mystery. It's a fact. Global warming -is- happening. It's happening now and we're the cause.

The Math is true!!!
Louie Anderson does in fact have more of a gravitatinal influence on Earth.

As to your GW comments. Yes the earth is warming, but do not State a FACT, which you can not back up. It is NOT a fact that mankind is to blame for global warming in the past two decades any more than it was a fact that Humans caused Global Cooling in the 1970's!!!

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[rasmack 0]

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I believe it causes global upheavals every cycle.

Fair enough. I believe it to be a chunk of rock/ice

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It is NOT on the same orbital path as the other 9 planets. We go one way, it goes the other… which brings it incredibly close to Earth… and that makes for very bad things….

Pluto is 40 times further from the Sun than Earth. 2003UB313 at times is three times that further away. It is nowhere near us. As for the deviation from the ecliptica and the eccentricity of the orbit they are just arguments that neither Pluto nor this new object should be designated as planets...

Oh, and the thing about the planet going "the other way", I haven't seen anything to indicate a retrograd orbit.

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[billvon 3,031]

>We go one way, it goes the other… which brings it incredibly close to
>Earth… and that makes for very bad things….

I think perhaps you have a different definition of "incredibly close" than other people. Its orbit is inclined 44 degrees to the plane of the ecliptic, which is a lot, but that doesn't mean it comes very close. It is three times farther away than Pluto and will never come much closer. It is about 8 trillion miles away from the sun, and about the same distance from us.

[rhino 0]

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before it cycles near the Earth***

I wonder how near it will come?

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[billvon 3,031]

>I wonder how near it will come?

At a circular orbit of 8 trillion miles, the closest it will come will be 7.999907 trillion miles.

[Zenister 0]

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Zacharia Sitchin

interesting guy.. VERY knowledgeable on pre-Christian religion and mythology, and a very persuasive speaker on the subject in the aluminum foil helmet crowd...... but starts to get a bit loonyy when he gets into his creation and prehistoric astronaut myths....

most christians are shocked to find out how much of their Old Testament was plagarized from Summarian and Akkadian mythos..

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Global warming -is- happening. It's happening now and we're the cause.

Paul, I know my post fits into billvon's hands, but I'll say it anyway.

Global warming appears to be very real. It is happening now. Where do I disagree with you? I disagree that we are "the" cause. I would agree that we are "a" cause, but "the cause" seems to be a bit much.

The earth has been cooling for roughly the last 6-8 thousand years. It was warming for a few thousand years before that. It was cooling for a few thousand years before that. It warmed about 1,000 years ago. Then cooled about 600-800 years ago.

We had nothing to do with those events. We have something to do with the current event. Once the rhetoric is taken away and objectivity comes into play, "global warming" will be much easier to grasp and handle.

"We're the cause" sounds like "This is your brain on drugs."

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[narcimund 0]

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before it cycles near the Earth***

I wonder how near it will come?

They just released the newest calculations! It's going to HIT THE EARTH! AGGGHHHHH!

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[dorbie 0]

This is complete bullshit Rhino.

Less Art Bell, more Physics.

Here is a 3D java applet that animates the orbit of 2003 EL61. It has been well understood since the time of the announcement so you can be absolutely certain that any "experts" proclaiming this as some big disrupting influence on the mechanics of the solar system are charlatans. You'll also notice it goes the same way as other planets.

http://neo.jpl.nasa.gov/orbits/2003el61.html

Scientists have predicted the existence of a 10th planet for decades and have predicted far more. Sitchin's cosmic billiards is not grounded in sound physics, it's complete bullshit. He doesn't merely claim that there's a disrupting planet (the tidal forces of the moon are far more severe than those any exo-planet could exert). He claims all sorts of unfounded orbital wackiness like planets being ripped from their orbits and captured by other planets etc etc. It's vannishingly unlikely to be effectively impossible for all practical purposes.

FYI something orbiting the opposite way doesn't make very bad things happen, that is more complete bullshit offered as fact. The only issue is proximity to other planets and there the "big sky" rule applies. There's a lot of empty space and there are thousands of objects that cross our path but have missed us for billions of years.

Finally if there is something else big out there on a highly eccentric orbit that does not make Sitchin prescient. There's a whole cluster of claims surrounding his theories that have no foundation. Finding one thing that correlates would not make the rest of it true. In this case there is *NOTHING* that correlates with his claims, in fact you might ask why he completely missed a 10th planet sized object in a stable solar orbit in his predictions.

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I think we should do what Wile E Coyote does when he's about to have a big boulder crash down on him.

Whip out a little umbrella, and a little sign that says "HELP!"

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That keys in with the idea that we're trapped here for a reason.

I like the one about us having a chance (if we've evolved enough singularly or collectively) to actually get off this planet in a spiritual not physical sense.

These outer places become accessible on a regular cosmic basis but if we're all still fighting down here few of us have the eyes or ears to access such "truth"

Vibrational differences stop us from having any damaging effect on their worlds.
Most earth bound dense-wits refuse to believe that there is anything close out there. Always looking for little carbon-copies of themselves. if we found intelligent life in the universe we probably wouldn't recognise it for what it is.

The "this is total shit worlders'...create their own reality everymoment.

Me.... I like dreaming with the cosmic cowboys who view this planet as one tiny little smog ball.

and those girls on Saturn really know how to kiss.

[rasmack 0]

Have you by any chance been reading this book?

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HF #682, Team Dirty Sanchez #227
“I simply hate, detest, loathe, despise, and abhor redundancy.”
- Not quite Oscar Wilde...

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re-Have you by any chance been reading this book?


Not sure which book you mean?? (link failed)

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in reply to :-Have you by any chance been reading this book?
Nice one.
No haven't read it but it looks wholesome to me. I'll just shake a bit more sand off my head.

Don't have link but the ' Ashtar command' series sort of works a bit .


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[Gawain 0]

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Global warming -is- happening. It's happening now and we're the cause.

And there is absolutely zero definitive scientific proof this statement is true.

The earth has undergone countless cycles of warm-up and cool-down on a scale to which man has no influence what-so-ever.

Before you start citing all these "studies" etc, just know there are an equal number of "facts" that counter the argument too.

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'Cause tonight there's a way I'll make light of my treacherous life
Make light!

[billvon 3,031]

>And there is absolutely zero definitive scientific proof this statement is true.

If you are in the "there's no proof for evolution" camp I suppose that might make some sense; you could apply the same sort of logic. Most people don't use such logic though; 99% of the scientific community accepts that our emissions of CO2 are having an effect upon the climate.

[fallingchip 0]

Who gives a shit. The Sun is going to swallow the Earth up one day anyway...right? We're all going to die evenyually...right?

So fuck it...go get a beer, pop a nut, or do what ever makes you happy and enjoy the time you know you have left.
(Not directed to you only Rino, but to all who is worried about things like this)

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I know a planet phucker when I hear one.

Squashed any little old ladies into the ground lately ?


"The little old man cried himself to death when he looked at the grain of sand and realised he hadn't lived at all . "

[fallingchip 0]

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I know a planet phucker when I hear one.

Squashed any little old ladies into the ground lately ?


"The little old man cried himself to death when he looked at the grain of sand and realised he hadn't lived at all . "

UMMMM...?

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[Guest]

We have obviously found Planet X at last, which everyone knows is the home of the long-sought Shaving Cream Atom.

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"The mouse does not know life until it is in the mouth of the cat."

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Yeah " _Tom Swift and the visitors from Planet X".
Why they didn't mention the humans with the consciousness of a flea crossed with a marshmellow is now my new task around this planet.

" X " WILL NEVER GIVE UP until we achieve our goals....finding the right host to take us into a different future than the one we just destroyed.

(I can't believe I've found humans will absorb this...now my new friends have a place to live