Enrique 0 #1 September 5, 2005 Here's what I think: would it not be nice if at least SOME of the billions of dollars used for creating war and havoc in a foreign Country were used to save lives, feed, and shelter people in your own Country? Just an idea for the next federal budget. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gawain 0 #2 September 5, 2005 I guess the $10.5 Billion approved by Congress missed the headlines on your planet. So I try and I scream and I beg and I sigh Just to prove I'm alive, and it's alright 'Cause tonight there's a way I'll make light of my treacherous life Make light! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NtheSeaOrSky 0 #3 September 5, 2005 No the other billions, We have so many, its easy for others to lose trackLife is not fair and there are no guarantees... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Enrique 0 #4 September 5, 2005 Don't twist my words... you know exactly what I mean. There would not have been the need for an emergency approval of a new budget: there would already have been a budget intended for natural catastrophies. If you pay a little bit more attention you would perceive that I am one of those crazy individuals who think that war is unnecessary, costly (both in money and human lives) and just plain stupid. There are better ways to use money than to invade countries and kill people. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lisamariewillbe 1 #5 September 5, 2005 QuoteThere are better ways to use money than to invade countries and kill people. How else are we supposed to take over the world without war.... jeesh , we need more parking lots silly, Sudsy Fist: i don't think i'd ever say this Sudsy Fist: but you're looking damn sudsydoable in this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NtheSeaOrSky 0 #6 September 5, 2005 I believe we do have such a budget...but this being the 'largest catastrophe to date' I suspect it was not quite large enough. The emergency approval, merely a formality...part of our checks and balances system of government. Would not want the Pres (whoever it is) thinking they could willy-nilly appropriate that amount without the approval of congress. War, while being perceived as stupid, unfortunately is a fact of life...unless you have a worldwide peace forever plan we are not aware of. And you are so right, lets get boob jobs for everyone, that is a better use for money. Life is not fair and there are no guarantees... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gawain 0 #7 September 5, 2005 QuoteDon't twist my words... you know exactly what I mean. There would not have been the need for an emergency approval of a new budget: there would already have been a budged intended for natural catastrophies. If you pay a little bit more attention you would perceive that I am one of those crazy individuals who think that war is unnecessary, costly (both in money and human lives) and just plain stupid. There are better ways to use money than to invade countries and kill people. The way budgets in the US work is as follows: There is a planned budget, spent over the course of a fiscal year (in the US, that runs from October through September), then there are "emergency appropriations bills" which are drafted and approved for little events like Katrina. Your results in Mexico may vary. I'm not twisting your words, I just happen to know how some sh*t in my country works. As for your view of the war, fine that you have it. I disagree, but that doesn't matter.So I try and I scream and I beg and I sigh Just to prove I'm alive, and it's alright 'Cause tonight there's a way I'll make light of my treacherous life Make light! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Enrique 0 #8 September 5, 2005 QuoteAnd you are so right, lets get boob jobs for everyone, that is a better use for money. Amen... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #9 September 5, 2005 $10.5B for Katrina About $192.2B for Iraq so far. http://costofwar.com/ http://www.ips-dc.org/iraq/failedtransition/index.htmquade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Enrique 0 #10 September 5, 2005 Dude, take it easy. Chill. Look at the facts: The omnipotent and great USA is asking for help to NATO and EU!!! That is a fact, I didn't make it up! What is the rest of the world supposed to think? You have enough money and soldiers to fight a war, but you don't have the resources to keep your own people afloat? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Enrique 0 #11 September 5, 2005 QuoteQuote War, while being perceived as stupid, unfortunately is a fact of life...unless you have a worldwide peace forever plan we are not aware of. Unfortunately, you are right. It is a fact of life.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RfukfreeflyingW 0 #12 September 5, 2005 Quote$10.5B for Katrina over how many weeks About $192.2B for Iraq so far. over how many years? http://costofwar.com/ http://www.ips-dc.org/iraq/failedtransition/index.htm see bold above ^ hmm ok gee at that rate it'll take less then 20 weeks to even out!---- -God, you are the perfect amount of dumb... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FallRate 0 #13 September 5, 2005 QuoteDon't twist my words... you know exactly what I mean. Yes we do. You would like to use this disaster as an opportunity to voice your opinion against the war in Iraq. QuoteThere would not have been the need for an emergency approval of a new budget: there would already have been a budget intended for natural catastrophies. In a perfect world, yes. However, even if we were not engaged in Iraq an approval for emergency funding to deal with this crisis would still be necessary. FallRate Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FallRate 0 #14 September 5, 2005 Quote$10.5B for Katrina About $192.2B for Iraq so far. $5.2B on Pet Supplies $12.4B on Pornography $24.3B on Personal Hygeine So long as we're throwing out expenditures for non-related items, I thought these might add to the nonsense. FallRate Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
busaunit 0 #15 September 5, 2005 ENriqne i agreee with you but saving human life is not as important as the freedom of another country.USA will have to wait for help and cash as there are more important this to worry about then a bunch of poor,hospitalized people who could not get out of town they should have left when they where told too? sorry to offened Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
slug 1 #16 September 5, 2005 QuoteHere's what I think: would it not be nice if at least SOME of the billions of dollars used for creating war and havoc in a foreign Country were used to save lives, feed, and shelter people in your own Country? Just an idea for the next federal budget. Hi Enrique I agree with what everything you said. EXCEPT: in the spirit of the flame fest on your post you spelled IRAK incorectle Ooops I mean you spelled IRAK wrong Just joking this isn't a spelling test R.I.P. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Enrique 0 #17 September 5, 2005 QuoteQuoteHere's what I think: would it not be nice if at least SOME of the billions of dollars used for creating war and havoc in a foreign Country were used to save lives, feed, and shelter people in your own Country? Just an idea for the next federal budget. Hi Enrique I agree with what everything you said. EXCEPT: in the spirit of the flame fest on your post you spelled IRAK incorectle Ooops I mean you spelled IRAK wrong Just joking this isn't a spelling test Sorry, I was thinking in Spanish... ("Irak" is correct in Spanish) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites akarunway 1 #18 September 5, 2005 Cost of war. http://www.projectbillboard.org/I hold it true, whate'er befall; I feel it, when I sorrow most; 'Tis better to have loved and lost Than never to have loved at all. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Gawain 0 #19 September 5, 2005 Quote... don't have the resources to keep your own people afloat? And Mexico does? You're in a glass house and a little tact would be beneficial. I don't have a problem with your criticism, but I do believe you are missing a complete picture.So I try and I scream and I beg and I sigh Just to prove I'm alive, and it's alright 'Cause tonight there's a way I'll make light of my treacherous life Make light! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites quade 4 #20 September 5, 2005 QuoteQuote$10.5B for Katrina About $192.2B for Iraq so far. $5.2B on Pet Supplies $12.4B on Pornography $24.3B on Personal Hygeine So long as we're throwing out expenditures for non-related items, I thought these might add to the nonsense. FallRate Both the cost of Iraq and Katrina ARE related as they come directly out of tax-payer funds. Iraq was elective, Katrina is not. To compare the two to what you have listed is simply rediculous.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Enrique 0 #21 September 5, 2005 Gawain, I am obviously not talking about my Country's government. I am talking about yours. We'll cross that bridge when we find it. The point is, as posted by Quade, that a natural (?)catastrophe such as Katrina is not elective and war is. I am not only criticizing the war on Iraq, I am criticizing any war and the amount of money devoted to such purpose as opposed to helping your own countrymen. Besides, I assumed your government would be humbled by the offers made by Venezuela, Cuba!!!, France and other Countries you have come to dislike over the years and for various reasons. I guess a little more sense of humanity would help. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Enrique 0 #22 September 5, 2005 QuoteQuoteQuote... don't have the resources to keep your own people afloat? And Mexico does? ... sorry, I didn't answer your question. The answer is: Mexico is not belligerent. We do not go to war. Dude, we don't even have the resources to go to war... whether not having such resources is the cause or the consequence of my previous statement, I don't know, but the fact is that we do not engage in wars. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites akarunway 1 #23 September 6, 2005 http://www.projectbillboard.org/ bump to edit to make clickyI hold it true, whate'er befall; I feel it, when I sorrow most; 'Tis better to have loved and lost Than never to have loved at all. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Frenchy68 0 #24 September 6, 2005 QuoteBesides, I assumed your government would be humbled by the offers made by Venezuela, Cuba!!!, France and other Countries you have come to dislike over the years and for various reasons. Damn! I'd better start reading the whole thread. Do some people in the US really consider France on the same level as Venezuela and Cuba in terms of US diplomatic relationship? That will for sure increase my contributions to Speakers' Corner in a heartbeat. "For once you have tasted Absinthe you will walk the earth with your eyes turned towards the gutter, for there you have been and there you will long to return." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites TheAnvil 0 #25 September 6, 2005 Don't really know a lot about the U.S. budget/expenditure process, do you? LoL. Read up on it a bit. This Iraq vs. New Orleans comparison is akin to comparing lingerie to meteors. Vinny the Anvil Post Traumatic Didn't Make The Lakers Syndrome is REAL JACKASS POWER!!!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 Next Page 1 of 2 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. 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akarunway 1 #18 September 5, 2005 Cost of war. http://www.projectbillboard.org/I hold it true, whate'er befall; I feel it, when I sorrow most; 'Tis better to have loved and lost Than never to have loved at all. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gawain 0 #19 September 5, 2005 Quote... don't have the resources to keep your own people afloat? And Mexico does? You're in a glass house and a little tact would be beneficial. I don't have a problem with your criticism, but I do believe you are missing a complete picture.So I try and I scream and I beg and I sigh Just to prove I'm alive, and it's alright 'Cause tonight there's a way I'll make light of my treacherous life Make light! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #20 September 5, 2005 QuoteQuote$10.5B for Katrina About $192.2B for Iraq so far. $5.2B on Pet Supplies $12.4B on Pornography $24.3B on Personal Hygeine So long as we're throwing out expenditures for non-related items, I thought these might add to the nonsense. FallRate Both the cost of Iraq and Katrina ARE related as they come directly out of tax-payer funds. Iraq was elective, Katrina is not. To compare the two to what you have listed is simply rediculous.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Enrique 0 #21 September 5, 2005 Gawain, I am obviously not talking about my Country's government. I am talking about yours. We'll cross that bridge when we find it. The point is, as posted by Quade, that a natural (?)catastrophe such as Katrina is not elective and war is. I am not only criticizing the war on Iraq, I am criticizing any war and the amount of money devoted to such purpose as opposed to helping your own countrymen. Besides, I assumed your government would be humbled by the offers made by Venezuela, Cuba!!!, France and other Countries you have come to dislike over the years and for various reasons. I guess a little more sense of humanity would help. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Enrique 0 #22 September 5, 2005 QuoteQuoteQuote... don't have the resources to keep your own people afloat? And Mexico does? ... sorry, I didn't answer your question. The answer is: Mexico is not belligerent. We do not go to war. Dude, we don't even have the resources to go to war... whether not having such resources is the cause or the consequence of my previous statement, I don't know, but the fact is that we do not engage in wars. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites akarunway 1 #23 September 6, 2005 http://www.projectbillboard.org/ bump to edit to make clickyI hold it true, whate'er befall; I feel it, when I sorrow most; 'Tis better to have loved and lost Than never to have loved at all. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Frenchy68 0 #24 September 6, 2005 QuoteBesides, I assumed your government would be humbled by the offers made by Venezuela, Cuba!!!, France and other Countries you have come to dislike over the years and for various reasons. Damn! I'd better start reading the whole thread. Do some people in the US really consider France on the same level as Venezuela and Cuba in terms of US diplomatic relationship? That will for sure increase my contributions to Speakers' Corner in a heartbeat. "For once you have tasted Absinthe you will walk the earth with your eyes turned towards the gutter, for there you have been and there you will long to return." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites TheAnvil 0 #25 September 6, 2005 Don't really know a lot about the U.S. budget/expenditure process, do you? LoL. Read up on it a bit. This Iraq vs. New Orleans comparison is akin to comparing lingerie to meteors. Vinny the Anvil Post Traumatic Didn't Make The Lakers Syndrome is REAL JACKASS POWER!!!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 Next Page 1 of 2 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0
akarunway 1 #23 September 6, 2005 http://www.projectbillboard.org/ bump to edit to make clickyI hold it true, whate'er befall; I feel it, when I sorrow most; 'Tis better to have loved and lost Than never to have loved at all. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frenchy68 0 #24 September 6, 2005 QuoteBesides, I assumed your government would be humbled by the offers made by Venezuela, Cuba!!!, France and other Countries you have come to dislike over the years and for various reasons. Damn! I'd better start reading the whole thread. Do some people in the US really consider France on the same level as Venezuela and Cuba in terms of US diplomatic relationship? That will for sure increase my contributions to Speakers' Corner in a heartbeat. "For once you have tasted Absinthe you will walk the earth with your eyes turned towards the gutter, for there you have been and there you will long to return." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheAnvil 0 #25 September 6, 2005 Don't really know a lot about the U.S. budget/expenditure process, do you? LoL. Read up on it a bit. This Iraq vs. New Orleans comparison is akin to comparing lingerie to meteors. Vinny the Anvil Post Traumatic Didn't Make The Lakers Syndrome is REAL JACKASS POWER!!!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
