Bush Bashers--Time to Eat Crow? (Katrina)

[billvon 2,991]

Looks like it's time for you to start eating that crow . . . .

"FEMA is not a first responce organization. They did and are doing thier job." - Rushmc

"Brownie, you're doing a heck of a job" - Bush, a week after the storm hit.

The director of the Federal Emergency Management Agency, Michael Brown, has resigned, two administration sources told CNN today. - today

Is it as stringy as they say?

[rushmc 23]

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Ha ha, very amusing.

Bush appointed a loser to FEMA. Fortunately, the administration couldn't spin that mistake although Brownie will undoubtedly be their scapegoat.

And congress approved in 49 to 1! When the Dems controled it

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[rushmc 23]

You want to lay the total fault at Bush's feet. Were there mistakes? Yes. It is Bush's fault? Even you know better than that

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[rushmc 23]

If you want my opinon Bush is not to blame. At all.

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[rushmc 23]

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Rushmc or anyone else --

This is a serious question, pardon the ignorance but I didn't grow up in an English-speaking household so there are a lot of colloquialisms that I'm not familiar with.

What does "eat crow" mean? Something along the lines of shut up?

Thanks...

It means more like you have said something you have to take back. Because it is not true or it is extreem or a lie.

As more and more information comes out about the storm and the responce more and more evidence shows the responce was better than the Bush bashers are saying and more and more evidence shows the mayor and governor were more of the problem than anybody else.

Now, shouldn't (if what I post is true) those bashing Bush have to "eat thier words" or, to say it another way.....eat crow.

Hope that helps

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[rushmc 23]

so what, you know the Dems would not quit until they feel they drew some blood regardless of any kind of guilt. He could not stand the fire and Bush flushed him I do not respect Bush for that myself.

Nice try

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[SkyDekker 1,465]

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If you want my opinon Bush is not to blame. At all.

So, the fact that he appointed some one who is incompetent has no bearing on any of this?

[billvon 2,991]

>so what . . .

Just pointing out that you have no intention of doing what you demand others do.

[Gravitymaster 0]

Wonder why we aren't hearing the same outrage and calls for the resignation of Nagin, Blanco and Landreau. Oh, thats right, they are Democrats and therefore incapable of responsibility.

[SkyDekker 1,465]

I think that discussion doesn't get as vocal because there are no democrats on this board that feel the need to blindly follow them and claim they have no blame at all.

There is at least one person who has outright stated it, and many who have inferred it, that believe Bush isn't to blame at all, which makes for a far more interesting discussion.

(and to finish in the same "light" as your post: But, I can understand that, republicans are programmed to blindly follow and not ask questions)

[wmw999 2,447]

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Wonder why we aren't hearing the same outrage and calls for the resignation of Nagin, Blanco and Landreau. Oh, thats right, they are Democrats and therefore incapable of responsibility.

Landrieu is a senator -- she's talking a lot, but as a senator she's not really in the line of responsibility. Even if she is a Democrat. Funny how you didn't mention the other senator -- is it because he's a Republican, a man, or just because he hasn't been talking?

Nagin and Blanco are in elected positions. I have a feeling that their careers are over too. If not, well the folks there deserve what they vote for.

Had they gone ahead and bussed out all the people, they would have had to then find (or have arranged ahead of time) places for them to stay. Political suicide if the storm doesn't come.

But a MUCH worse decision to therefore chicken out and not do it.

Wendy W.

There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown)

[GTAVercetti 0]

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You want to lay the total fault at Bush's feet. Were there mistakes? Yes. It is Bush's fault? Even you know better than that

Hey are there two people typing for you? One who is saying one thing and another saying something else? Is one of them unable to read perhaps?

First you say, Bush is not to blame. Then you say that you never said he was at no fault. Then you say he is not to blame again. I really don't care what side you take, but it would be just awesome if you could stick to one and not say the opposite just to refute a point of argument.

I said that I think there was failure on ALL government levels. I never said it was Bush's total failure. I have NO IDEA how you concluded that I said it was all Bush's fault from this sentence: And just so we are clear: I think failure occurred on all levels, not just Federal.

You seem to see only what you want to see.

Why yes, my license number is a palindrome. Thank you for noticing.

[kallend 2,027]

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Wonder why we aren't hearing the same outrage and calls for the resignation of Nagin, Blanco and Landreau. Oh, thats right, they are Democrats and therefore incapable of responsibility.

I guess you have had your eyes and ears closed for a week or so.

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The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.

[rushmc 23]

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>so what . . .

Just pointing out that you have no intention of doing what you demand others do.

I have demanded??

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[rushmc 23]

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If you want my opinon Bush is not to blame. At all.

So, the fact that he appointed some one who is incompetent has no bearing on any of this?

You are funny. A Democraticly controlled congress confirmed him too.

Look, I do not know anything about this guy. The libs blame him so so do you. But to blame Bush because of the retoric about this is nut. I think it is to divert the blame from those who deserve it is what is really going on here....

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[rushmc 23]

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Wonder why we aren't hearing the same outrage and calls for the resignation of Nagin, Blanco and Landreau. Oh, thats right, they are Democrats and therefore incapable of responsibility.

Hard to blame them when the media is so dammed slanted. The truth is coming out but the left leaning media is not reporting it. Doesn't support thier agenda

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[billvon 2,991]

> But to blame Bush because of the retoric about this is nut.

So is it your position that Bush had nothing to do with the appointment of Brown?

Dude, I know you're trying your level best to spin this to be 'all about the democrats' but your own party is deserting you. Republicans from both houses have been calling for Brown's resignation. Time to put some salt on that crow and chow down.

[rushmc 23]

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> But to blame Bush because of the retoric about this is nut.

So is it your position that Bush had nothing to do with the appointment of Brown?

Dude, I know you're trying your level best to spin this to be 'all about the democrats' but your own party is deserting you. Republicans from both houses have been calling for Brown's resignation. Time to put some salt on that crow and chow down.

I know you hate Bush so dammed it is hard for you to see facts, but to place blame because an appointment?who is doing the spinning here.

The Senator, Govenor and Mayor are the ones that failed the people.......not Bush. If he would have went in without being asked you would have said see? Another preemtive move on his part You know you can't allow him to win anthing

and remember. a Democratic congress voted nearly unanamously in his support. are they to get blamed too.

come on

now chew those feathers up good

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[kallend 2,027]

You are still flogging the horse and it died quite a while ago.

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The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.

[Gravitymaster 0]

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Wonder why we aren't hearing the same outrage and calls for the resignation of Nagin, Blanco and Landreau. Oh, thats right, they are Democrats and therefore incapable of responsibility.

I guess you have had your eyes and ears closed for a week or so.

Yeah, I guess thats it. Of course, I have had better things to do than hang out here and listen to the same whine-loop. How about helping me out and pointing me to a link in the MSM that calls for their resignations?

[kallend 2,027]

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Wonder why we aren't hearing the same outrage and calls for the resignation of Nagin, Blanco and Landreau. Oh, thats right, they are Democrats and therefore incapable of responsibility.

I guess you have had your eyes and ears closed for a week or so.

Yeah, I guess thats it. Of course, I have had better things to do than hang out here and listen to the same whine-loop. How about helping me out and pointing me to a link in the MSM that calls for their resignations?

You have to go no farther than DZ.COM, Speakers Corner, to read intense criticism from the right of the mayor and gov. So where HAVE you been?

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The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.

[wmw999 2,447]

I'm still curious as to why only the Democratic senator failed them.

Wendy W.

There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown)

[GTAVercetti 0]

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I'm still curious as to why only the Democratic senator failed them.

Wendy W.

Sometimes its easier to just ignore when someone points out your inconsistencies.

Why yes, my license number is a palindrome. Thank you for noticing.

[billvon 2,991]

>I know you hate Bush so dammed it is hard for you to see facts . . .

Hate him? I never even met him. For all I know, he's a nice guy.

>but to place blame because an appointment?

Yes. In the reality-based world, people are responsible for their actions. If someone makes a poor decision and appoints someone unqualified, they are responsible for that appointment.

Now, I realize that in the spin-based world, a politician is only responsible for good things he does, and someone else of another party is responsible for everything bad that happens. It is a popular world for politicians to live in, but most people do not think that way.

In this case, at least Bush took some initiative and fired him (sorry, asked him to resign.) Which sorta blows your theory out of the water.

>The Senator, Govenor and Mayor are the ones that failed the
> people.......not Bush.

I think that's your fourth 180 on that particular topic. The governor, the mayor, FEMA, the NO police, the president, and the army corps of engineers all bear some responsibility for what happened.

[Gravitymaster 0]

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Wonder why we aren't hearing the same outrage and calls for the resignation of Nagin, Blanco and Landreau. Oh, thats right, they are Democrats and therefore incapable of responsibility.

I guess you have had your eyes and ears closed for a week or so.

Yeah, I guess thats it. Of course, I have had better things to do than hang out here and listen to the same whine-loop. How about helping me out and pointing me to a link in the MSM that calls for their resignations?

You have to go no farther than DZ.COM, Speakers Corner, to read intense criticism from the right of the mayor and gov. So where HAVE you been?

Speakers Corner?? I thought you understood I was talking about the "Real World"