highfly 0 #1 September 14, 2005 Look here This is SFW. Why would people be charged for the deaths of people that had no hope in living through this disaster anyway? What would of happend if they had been evacuated in time and died from heat, exhaustion, etc etc. Now that Mr Bush has partially admitted blame for the poor show of help in getting people evacuated etc will he be charged with anything? I doubt it. So why should these 2 poor people be charged for the deaths of 34 of there clients which they had no doubt looked after for a long time. QuoteThe owners said they had been critically ill patients who died in stifling heat after power was cut off, and insisted they could not have been evacuated in time. From the owners mouths. What would you do? What about the hospital which was found to have 45 patients dead in there. Will the hospital administrator be charged too? In my eyes the only people that should be charged with anything are the looters, murderers, rapists and other criminal types that exploited people during this very hard time in New Orleans. www.myspace.com/durtymac Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ncrowe 0 #2 September 14, 2005 Hellllllllllloooooooooooooooooooo speakers corner "Don't Mess Around With the Guy in Shades- Oh No!!! " Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
highfly 0 #3 September 14, 2005 Helllllllooooooooooo. Im sure it will get moved if felt appropriate. Not everyone reads sc. Everyone needs to know about this. www.myspace.com/durtymac Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
misskriss 0 #4 September 14, 2005 I don't know... I saw an interview last night with the son of one of the deceased. He talked with the owners before the hurricane and they assured him they were going to evacuate. They did not. They were offered ambulance service to evacuate and did not. QuoteWhy would people be charged for the deaths of people that had no hope in living through this disaster anyway Yeah...best just to leave them to drown. The ambulances wouldn't have taken them to hospitals out of the area anyway or anything like that.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
highfly 0 #5 September 14, 2005 "If you evacuate these patients, many of whom are on oxygen, many of whom are on feeder tubes, many of whom won't survive the evacuation, many of those people are going to die," Mr Cobb said. And no I wouldnt just let them drown without effort to save them, but I would certainly consider saving myself and my own family over my clients. www.myspace.com/durtymac Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ACMESkydiver 0 #6 September 14, 2005 QuoteQuoteThe owners said they had been critically ill patients who died in stifling heat after power was cut off, and insisted they could not have been evacuated in time. From the owners mouths. I wonder if an autopsy could prove the cause of death.~Jaye Do not believe that possibly you can escape the reward of your action. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fallingchip 0 #7 September 14, 2005 PREPARED FOR LAUNCH TO SC IN 10-9-8-7-6...______________________________________________ "A radical man is a man with both feet firmly planted in the air." -Franklin Delano Roosevelt Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
highfly 0 #8 September 14, 2005 The trouble is that I have seen pictures of people that were obviously fit and well before the storm floating dead in the mess of the flood waters. One man had died after he had struggled to pulll himself on top of a car. What hope would a 60,70,80 yr old have with senile dementia or Parkinsons diesease? www.myspace.com/durtymac Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
misskriss 0 #9 September 14, 2005 I've seen more than the link is what I'm saying and I know that a nurses assistant stayed behind on the roof trying to get help while the owners left in a boat by themselves. However, I don't want to pass judgement on what people do in the face of disaster. I have no idea how I would react given the situation. It's easy for us to sit back and condemn, not condemn or to say what people should or should not have done. The whole thing is a tragedy. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sinker 0 #10 September 14, 2005 Why would people be charged for the deaths of people that had no hope in living through this disaster anyway? What would of happend if they had been evacuated in time and died from heat, exhaustion, etc etc. *** well, for starters, the whole point in evacuating them would be so they wouldn't HAVE to live through the disaster... they could live _outside_ the disaster. second, maybe they _would have_ died from exhaustion, heat, whatever, but it is impossible to know.... third, what was taken from them was time... time to say goodbye to their families, to their loved ones, time for their loved ones to say goodbye to them. fourth, if the caregivers did not TRY to get the victims out, their caregivers betrayed a fundamental, basic trust. IMO, they were abandoned. Just b/c they were old and and critically ill doesn't mean their lives had no value. fifth, the dead in the hospitals are no different from these folks in the nursing home IF and only if the hospital staff were derilect in their duties to TRY and evacuate them. sixth, of course the looters and the rest should be held accountable. but they aren't the only ones... people who abandon the weak, the innocent, the helpless should be held accountable too... -the artist formerly known as sinker Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
highfly 0 #11 September 14, 2005 QuoteI've seen more than the link is what I'm saying and I know that a nurses assistant stayed behind on the roof trying to get help while the owners left in a boat by themselves I hadnt seen this fact. If that is the case then maybe there is justification. www.myspace.com/durtymac Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ACMESkydiver 0 #12 September 14, 2005 QuoteThe trouble is that I have seen pictures of people that were obviously fit and well before the storm floating dead in the mess of the flood waters. Where on earth are you seeing pictures like that?! ~Jaye Do not believe that possibly you can escape the reward of your action. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sinker 0 #13 September 14, 2005 QuoteI've seen more than the link is what I'm saying and I know that a nurses assistant stayed behind on the roof trying to get help while the owners left in a boat by themselves. However, I don't want to pass judgement on what people do in the face of disaster. I have no idea how I would react given the situation. It's easy for us to sit back and condemn, not condemn or to say what people should or should not have done. The whole thing is a tragedy. you have a very good point there... I hope it all turns out that they DIDN'T just bail on the poor old people... What if it truly WAS a hopeless situation and they honestly couldn't do anything to get them out? What a bad heart rending spot to be in... Misskriss, I hope your pregnancy is going superbly! -the artist formerly known as sinker Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
highfly 0 #14 September 14, 2005 Some pics were put up on the bbc news website and some were found on other sites around the net. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/shared/spl/hi/pop_ups/05/americas_new_orleans_patrol/html/1.stm Its the last picture in the gallery www.myspace.com/durtymac Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyrad 0 #15 September 14, 2005 Don't see the problem Matt, if they are innocent they will be found so and released. If not they will be found guilty and punished. They have been charged not condemned.When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyrad 0 #16 September 14, 2005 Being on O2 or having a NG tube is no barrier to travel. ITU patients are transfered form one hospital to another on a not infrequent basis with little problem and they really are at deaths door. Sounds like Mr Cobb is either ill informed or just grabbing at straws. As for saving your own life and that of your family I didn't think there was an either or clause here.When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lawrocket 3 #17 September 14, 2005 When you take the responsibility to care for someone, then you take the blame when that care is not sufficient. These people were PAID to take care of these sick and elderly. They did not. 45 of them died. FORTY-FIVE DEAD! They didn't hear about the mandatory evacuation? Give me a break. They were worried about their bottom line - "it''s gonna cost money to get these poor people out of there, so we'll take our chances." Despicable, and they should fucking rot in a hot, stifling jail. My wife is hotter than your wife. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites