Give them an Inch (Damn palestinians)

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I take it, Darius, that you fully support Muslim Iran and Turkey returning the lands they now occupy but that had belonged to the Christian Armenians for thousands of years until relatively recently.

Indeed, very similar situation, and I believe Armenians have more than a legitimate claim.

"For once you have tasted Absinthe you will walk the earth with your eyes turned towards the gutter, for there you have been and there you will long to return."

[Trent 0]

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If you think the Native Americans were treated fairly. Then I can totally understand why you might not have any sympathy for the Palestinians. Explains a lot

Don't ever assume you know what I think based on what I haven't said. Why can't you answer the question as is, on its own? Since you think Israel should pack up and go, should all of us in the US wh aren't of native-american descent go too? And how about those non-native people occupying all of latin america? How about getting all of the non-persian descended people out of Iran?

Notice, I never once said anything about anyone being treated fairly or unfairly. Either answer the questions or ignore them entirely. But hey, if you can't or don't want to because it'd make you look hypocritical... attack the person asking the question.

Oh, hello again!

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When they see the profit potential of doing business on Saturday, they will come around.

Good point. And the cajuns eat anything, even kosher hot dogs.

There you go. Israeli-Palestinian problem solved and rebuilding New Orleans solved.

Ahh what shall I do with the rest of the day?

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When they see the profit potential of doing business on Saturday, they will come around.

Good point. And the cajuns eat anything, even kosher hot dogs.

There you go. Israeli-Palestinian problem solved and rebuilding New Orleans solved.

Ahh what shall I do with the rest of the day?

Come meet me at the bar, I'm working on that cure for cancer thingie.

"For once you have tasted Absinthe you will walk the earth with your eyes turned towards the gutter, for there you have been and there you will long to return."

[Steel 0]

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Send the Palestinians to Louisiana...lots of place there for them, and after the hurricane, it actually looks like a palestinian campground.


regardless of where they go, they will NEVER own or occupy the land God gave to Israel.

Bill Cole


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No Louisianna is out of the picture read below and see attachment:


Bush Sells Louisiana Back to the French



President Bush and a giddy Jacques Chirac shake hands on the deal.

BATON ROUGE, LA. – The White House announced today that President Bush has successfully sold the state of Louisiana back to the French at more than double its original selling price of $11,250,000.

The state, ravaged by Hurricane Katrina, will cost hundreds of billions of dollars to rebuild.

“Jack understands full well that this one’s a ‘fixer upper,’” said Bush. “He and the French people are quite prepared to pump out all that water, and make Louisiana a decent place to live again. And they’ve got a lot of work to do. But Jack’s assured me, if it’s not right, they’re going to fix it.”

“This is an unexpected but brilliant move by the President,” said Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist. “Instead of spending billions and billions, and billions of dollars rebuilding the state of Louisiana, we’ve just made 25 million dollars in pure profit.”

“This is indeed a smart move,” commented Fox News analyst Brit Hume. “Not only have we stopped the flooding in our own budget, we’ve made money on the deal. Plus, when the god-awful French are done fixing it up, we can easily invade and take it back again.”

The money gained from 'The Louisiana Refund' is expected to be immediately pumped back into the rebuilding of Iraq.

If I could make a wish, I think I'd pass.
Can't think of anything I need
No cigarettes, no sleep, no light, no sound.
Nothing to eat, no books to read.

[Steel 0]

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Just curious, but since some people here think the Palestinians are just reclaiming their rightful land... do you support kicking all non-native-americans out of the US and Canada? How about the non-mestizos out of Mexico, Central and South America?

Mestizos means a mix between the native Mexican Aztecs, Peruvian Incas, Quechua's in Equador, etc.. and the White Spanish. Bottomline Mestizo's are half-breeds, So you're statement doesn't make sense.
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If I could make a wish, I think I'd pass.
Can't think of anything I need
No cigarettes, no sleep, no light, no sound.
Nothing to eat, no books to read.

[Darius11 12]

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If you think the Native Americans were treated fairly. Then I can totally understand why you might not have any sympathy for the Palestinians. Explains a lot

I take it, Darius, that you fully support Muslim Iran and Turkey returning the lands they now occupy but that had belonged to the Christian Armenians for thousands of years until relatively recently.

Are you willing to sign a petition to the Iranian and Turkish governments to that effect and help end the occupation?

Yes or no.


Blutarsky 2008. No Prisoners!

Lets go back to 2500 years ago and return all the land that was once Persia to the original Aryans (now known as Iranians) I am all for that are you?

I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain

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If you really want to get technical....we are ALL Jews....and that is a fact.

The Palestinians are not?
Additionally: They are not Gods' kids?
Who am I, just a quarter of beeing Jewish? A nobody?

Bill, I tried, you know it. But, it's hard to understand you.
Explain more of what you (believe) you know, otherwise, you will be standing alone in the rain. It's really not easy to understand you.

What are your "facts"?

Christel

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If you really want to get technical....we are ALL Jews....and that is a fact.

The Palestinians are not?
Additionally: They are not Gods' kids?
Who am I, just a quarter of beeing Jewish? A nobody?

Bill, I tried, you know it. But, it's hard to understand you.
Explain more of what you (believe) you know, otherwise, you will be standing alone in the rain. It's really not easy to understand you.

What are your "facts"?

Christel

Did you ever read "Alice in Wonderland"?

If not, then you are missing the key to understanding: words mean different things to fundamentalists than they mean to regular English speakers.

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The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.

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The Palestinians are not?

The jewish people who lived in that region before the creation of israel are Palestinians... they just call themselves israelis now.

J

All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing. - Edmund Burke

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Lets go back to 2500 years ago and return all the land that was once Persia to the original Aryans (now known as Iranians) I am all for that are you?

Are there surviving Aryans who would make such claims? There are millions of dispossessed Christian Armenians and they want their lands back no less than Muslim Palestinians do.

I presume that you wouldn't deliberately misinform people so I'll remind you that the Armenian Genocide occurred fewer than 100 years ago, not 2500 years ago as with your example of the Aryans and present-day Iran. The Armenians can trace a contiguous chain-of-title to their ancestral lands back to their forebearers, the Erebuni, for whom the historical record now discloses substantial artifacts. In addition, it was the Muslim Ottoman Empire which caused this result to obtain, not the British Empire or her American colony.

Darius, in this and other threads I've asked you a simple question and you either missed seeing it or you purposely evaded it. So I 'll give you another opportunity.

Will you apply the same logic to the issue of restoring occupied Christian Armenian lands that you have applied in respect of Muslim Palestine?

Yes or no.


Blutarsky 2008. No Prisoners!

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Bush Sells Louisiana Back to the French

LMAO

We are all engines of karma

[Gawain 0]

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Yeah... Those damn palestinians!

Give 'em an Inch and they try to take back their whole bloody country!

Of course, there is the small matter that prior to the formation of the State of Israel the country was called... Wait for it... PALESTINE!!!

It was a place where people, Jews, Moslems, Christians, Etc... largely just lived peacefully together in what was a British Protectorate heading toward independence.

Let's complete your history lesson here: The British withdrew from their "mandate" over Palestine after WWII, then the United Nations partitioned the area into Arab and Jewish states. The Arabs rejected it outright. In the wars that ensued, Israel was formed.

Israel has been able to settle disputes with Egypt and Jordan. They are fully capable, and willing, to find a way to take the high road. The Palestinians are going to turn Gaza into an ash heap, then demand more hand-outs from the world.

So I try and I scream and I beg and I sigh
Just to prove I'm alive, and it's alright
'Cause tonight there's a way I'll make light of my treacherous life
Make light!

[Trent 0]

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Mestizos means a mix between the native Mexican Aztecs, Peruvian Incas, Quechua's in Equador, etc.. and the White Spanish. Bottomline Mestizo's are half-breeds, So you're statement doesn't make sense.

See what happens when you try to avoid saying non-mexican-central american-south american-indians? Does that make sense now?

Oh, hello again!

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The Palestinians are going to turn Gaza into an ash heap

Maybe they will, maybe they won't. But it's worth giving them a shot. Sure better than the status quo of the passed years.

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...then demand more hand-outs from the world.

Well, that's a tricky one. Hamas, other than financing suicide bombers and rocket attacks on Israelis, also finances the building of schools and hospitals in Palestinian territories. Not only are they seen by some Palestinians as being "freedom fighters", they are also seen as benefactors. The surest way for the Palestinian authority to marginalize groups such as Hamas is to be perceived by its own people as THE ultimate provider and defender of Palestinian people, is to better what's being accomplished (not at the terrorist level, but benefit level) by militant groups. This will take time, money, and good will. Investing into it may be risky, but once again, IMO worth giving it a shot...

"For once you have tasted Absinthe you will walk the earth with your eyes turned towards the gutter, for there you have been and there you will long to return."

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Don't get me wrong, I hope the Israeli pullout turns out to be a real benefit for all, and a cornerstone to peace. However, the initial response of the Palestinians when they strolled on in to Gaza was woefully disappointing.

Hamas has potential to be a truly strong political force in the development of a new country, but, they have to either disarm, or transfer power of their militias under a central command (Mahmud Abbas).

So I try and I scream and I beg and I sigh
Just to prove I'm alive, and it's alright
'Cause tonight there's a way I'll make light of my treacherous life
Make light!

[Frenchy68 0]

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Hamas has potential to be a truly strong political force in the development of a new country, but, they have to either disarm, or transfer power of their militias under a central command (Mahmud Abbas).

I totally agree. Hamas can not be ignored as it is right now. And based on some of Abbas speeches, it seems (however radical that appears to us) that he is trying to reach out to some of Hamas' supporters. Sometimes, marginalizing an organisation which bears a "military arm" only makes such organisation stronger. Trying to incorporate it and turn it into the mainstream may help make it, in the long run, insignificant (or at least turn it into a fully non violent political entity).

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However, the initial response of the Palestinians when they strolled on in to Gaza was woefully disappointing.

Hopefully, only on appearance. Everyone trying to claim victory and going through a "show of force"... Let's see what develops.

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Don't get me wrong, I hope the Israeli pullout turns out to be a real benefit for all, and a cornerstone to peace.

That makes the two of us. And the fact that Ariel Sharon, who in the past had voiced his strong opposition to any kind of pull out, made such a move leads me to think that even HE though that breaking the status quo was better than feeding the beast that was the status quo.

"For once you have tasted Absinthe you will walk the earth with your eyes turned towards the gutter, for there you have been and there you will long to return."

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Hamas, other than financing suicide bombers and rocket attacks on Israelis, also finances the building of schools and hospitals in Palestinian territories...

Isn't it Iran that's paying Hamas' bills?

We are all engines of karma

[Frenchy68 0]

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Hamas, other than financing suicide bombers and rocket attacks on Israelis, also finances the building of schools and hospitals in Palestinian territories...

Isn't it Iran that's paying Hamas' bills?

They're obviously getting financed from somewhere. I am sure Iran does contribute. I would however speculate that many other governments, organisations, and individuals do contribute.

"For once you have tasted Absinthe you will walk the earth with your eyes turned towards the gutter, for there you have been and there you will long to return."

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I would however speculate that many other governments, organisations, and individuals do contribute.

Agreed.

We are all engines of karma

[chuteless 1]

Like I told you Christel, if I spoke to you in Chinese, and you wanted to understand badly enough, you'd learn Chinese.

If you really want in your heart to understand God's WORD, and not try to remake it to suit yourself, then you would get busy and search the scriptures as Jesus said to do.

The reality,it you want an instant fix to accomodate your own version of how things should be, and not God's doctrine.

No matter what I would tell you, you look for ways out, and there isnt any. Either you serach out the answers in God's WORD, or I guess you'll have to do without and live the way of this world without God.

The choice is yours

Bill Cole


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You are correct.....The French WILL repossess the lands of the louisiana Purcghase...and it won't cost them anything.

Bill Cole


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[beowulf 1]

Bill Cole, I really think you are nuts and are totally delusional. But to each his own.

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Thanks for the compliment

Bill Cole


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The reality,it you want an instant fix to accomodate your own version of how things should be, and not God's doctrine.

No matter what I would tell you, you look for ways out, and there isnt any. Either you serach out the answers in God's WORD, or I guess you'll have to do without and live the way of this world without God.

The choice is yours

Lots of us are happy with the second option. Don't need a fix, either. Life just is. Make the best of it, because there isn't an afterworld.