Another great reason to hate France!

[JohnRich 4]

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About as much as the first President of the US was British.

George Washington was born in Virginia, right here on the American continent.

George Washington was born in Virginia, on the American continent, part of the British Empire at the time!

George revoked any allegiance to the British empire when he joined the Independence movement and started fighting the British.

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George revoked any allegiance to the British empire when he joined the Independence movement and started fighting the British.

So what was your point about Napoleon again?

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...So what was your point about Napoleon again?

He voted for Pedro.

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[Mike111 0]

I agree, but there are certain aspects of the French culture and ideaology which i disapprove.

their pig headed stubborness (although all countries are to a certain extent) on several political issues is certainly one of them.

[SpeedRacer 1]

OK but then how is your attitude any better than someone who hates, say, the USA?

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[tso-d_chris 0]

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their pig headed stubborness (although all countries are to a certain extent) on several political issues is certainly one of them.

If you think they are stubborn, you should try living in the US. Now they have some stubborn politicians.

[christelsabine 1]

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I agree, but there are certain aspects of the French culture and ideaology which i disapprove.

their pig headed stubborness (although all countries are to a certain extent) on several political issues is certainly one of them.

.... as there are, f.e....?
Would like to share your opinions/experiences

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[JohnRich 4]

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George revoked any allegiance to the British empire when he joined the Independence movement and started fighting the British.

So what was your point about Napoleon again?

Napolean was born in Italy (yeah, Corsica) originally before he moved to France and became emperor. It was much later when he turned
around using French forces to attack Italy.

With Washington, however, it was a clean break, done immediately. One day he was a British colonist, and the next day he was a traitor to the crown for joining the rebellion, and subject to execution if caught.

Oh, and as for Napolean being French because he was born on Corsica: France gained control on Corsica only three months before Napolean was born. So he was actually conceived before France ruled Corsica.

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George revoked any allegiance to the British empire when he joined the Independence movement and started fighting the British.

So what was your point about Napoleon again?

Napolean was born in Italy (yeah, Corsica) originally before he moved to France and became emperor. It was much later when he turned
around using French forces to attack Italy.

With Washington, however, it was a clean break, done immediately. One day he was a British colonist, and the next day he was a traitor to the crown for joining the rebellion, and subject to execution if caught.

Oh, and as for Napolean being French because he was born on Corsica: France gained control on Corsica only three months before Napolean was born.

You can't read? Corsica never was Italy. Check your Atlas and a history book.

Firstly Corsica was for much of history (when not independent) under the control of Genoa. Italy as such did not exist prior to Napoleon. What we now know as Italy was a fragment of city states and small kingdoms for many centuries. The Italy we know was formed in the 1850's.

Secondly Napoleon was born after Corsica became French territory - it does not matter how long before his birth this happened. Same as saying somebody born in Alaska or Hawaii shortly after these territories became part of the US are not US citizens (i.e. Americans). So he was Corsican (definately not Italian) and he was a French citizen. It also should be noted that Corsica for about 40 years prior to the treaty of Versailles was factual under nobodies control (the war of independence 1729 - 1769). It then ended up being French territory.

This has been explained to you in other posts above. You just continue to present false "facts"about other countries. Seems to be a repeating pattern in your posts.

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Napolean was born in Italy (yeah, Corsica)

You are from Texas (yeah, North Mexico). Therefore, you are a North Mexican.

Be humble, ask questions, listen, learn, follow the golden rule, talk when necessary, and know when to shut the fuck up.

[SpeedRacer 1]

http://www.snopes.com/critters/crusader/sharkbait.asp Turns out the story got a little bit exagerated. This is not a common practice in Reunion Island (not France, actually, but a French territory in the Indian ocean), but has only been documented being done by one small group. And they're using ALREADY DEAD dogs, not live ones.


Edited to add: whooops, someone already pointed this out. but it got lost in the Sea of Political Bashing.

maybe a shark ate it.

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[wmw999 2,456]

So if this is France's fault, I'm guessing you guys all really hate the US for dogfighting, right?

Wendy W.

There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown)

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So if this is France's fault, I'm guessing you guys all really hate the US for dogfighting, right?

[sarcasm]No, because that's done in the name of freedom and democracy.[/sarcasm]

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Napolean was born in Italy (yeah, Corsica) originally before he moved to France and became emperor. It was much later when he turned
around using French forces to attack Italy.

With Washington, however, it was a clean break, done immediately. One day he was a British colonist, and the next day he was a traitor to the crown for joining the rebellion, and subject to execution if caught.

Oh, and as for Napolean being French because he was born on Corsica: France gained control on Corsica only three months before Napolean was born. So he was actually conceived before France ruled Corsica.

You're funny.

"For once you have tasted Absinthe you will walk the earth with your eyes turned towards the gutter, for there you have been and there you will long to return."

[skykittykat 0]

21st October - Anniversary of the Battle of Trafalgar - just when the World Cup Starts

Several e-mails out and about, one stating that the French raised their security alert from Hide to Hide and Run....

Another, do a google search for the best French victories and it comes back as no search found, try best French defeats.

Liz

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you must be refering to this:

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Be aware that the French government announced yesterday that it has raised its terror alert level from Run to Hide.
The only two higher levels in France are Surrender and Collaborate.

The rise was precipitated by a recent fire which destroyed France's white flag factory, effectively paralyzing their military.
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Be aware that the French government announced yesterday that it has raised its terror alert level from Run to Hide.
The only two higher levels in France are Surrender and Collaborate.

The rise was precipitated by a recent fire which destroyed France's white flag factory, effectively paralyzing their military.

That's the one!!!! I was getting a little confused there. I've had quite a few conversations today on the dz about the French that all the stories moulded into one and me being me came up with not 1+1 =2, but 1+1 =3

Liz

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France has lower infant mortality rate than the US.

And a higher unemployment rate.

So freaking what?

let's throw in the key indicator poverty.

Umemployment in France does not necessarily imply being doomed
to poverty (at least not nearly to the extend it does in the US)
... so indeed, "so freaking what?"

OTOH, poverty and income inequality are heavily correlated to infant
mortality - there are gazillions of articles about that.

I have no time to research the numbers but I wouldn't be surprised
if poverty was an at least as potent if not far more effective fetus
and baby killer than abortion. Something, I'm sure many on the
religious right wingers would love to listen to and consider.

Every country has its own style. France affords itself a highly
subsidized umemployment system that may run out of money soon.
The US affords itself a layer of society living in 3rd world style
poverty only rarely seen in any other highly developed countries,
as well as all the ramifications in the form of high infant mortality,
increased criminality, poor education and skill, etc that come with
that.

I guess it's a matter of taste which like better ...

Cheers, T

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[JohnRich 4]

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You can't read? Corsica never was Italy. Check your Atlas and a history book.

Firstly Corsica was for much of history (when not independent) under the control of Genoa. Italy as such did not exist prior to Napoleon. What we now know as Italy was a fragment of city states and small kingdoms for many centuries. The Italy we know was formed in the 1850's.

Secondly Napoleon was born after Corsica became French territory - it does not matter how long before his birth this happened. Same as saying somebody born in Alaska or Hawaii shortly after these territories became part of the US are not US citizens (i.e. Americans). So he was Corsican (definately not Italian) and he was a French citizen. It also should be noted that Corsica for about 40 years prior to the treaty of Versailles was factual under nobodies control (the war of independence 1729 - 1769). It then ended up being French territory.

This has been explained to you in other posts above. blah blah blah...

Geez. You're getting awfully worked up about a Napolean wop joke. Get over it. I'm gonna buy you a sense of humor for christmas.

[christelsabine 1]

I'm gonna buy you a sense of humor for christmas.

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Geez. You're getting awfully worked up about a Napolean wop joke.

Ahh, now its just a joke. So all your endless negative and factual incorrect postings about other countries are just jokes.... Better put a disclaimer in all those threads you start "if I am again proven to use dodgy or false information - please note it was just a joke"

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[JohnRich 4]

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Ahh, now its just a joke. So all your endless negative and factual incorrect postings about other countries are just jokes....

What is definitely not a joke is your demonstrated ability, as shown in the quote above, to take one event, and try and incorrectly expand and extrapolate it to apply it to all other events. It's a really cheap strawman attempt.

That's just one example of the logical and factual fallacies in many of your responses.

Regarding your "joke" comment: If you go back and look at message #68, the exact quote from me which started the "Napolean" stuff, was this:

"But that little Napolean guy they loaned to France did a pretty good job for the French for a while. Isn't it funny that France's greatest ruler was an Italian?"

Note the use of the phrase "isn't it funny" in the sentence? Couldn't that possibly indicate that the comment was tongue in cheek fun, rather than some evil serious attack on the French, as you seem to want people to believe?

But hey, that's just yet another example of how you've misinterpreted my messages.

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So if this is France's fault, I'm guessing you guys all really hate the US for dogfighting, right?

Wendy W.

No just hate the inner city scum and the hillbillies for that.

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Ahh, now its just a joke. So all your endless negative and factual incorrect postings about other countries are just jokes....

What is definitely not a joke is your demonstrated ability, as shown in the quote above, to take one event, and try and incorrectly expand and extrapolate it to apply it to all other events. It's a really cheap strawman attempt.

That's just one example of the logical and factual fallacies in many of your responses.

Regarding your "joke" comment: If you go back and look at message #68, the exact quote from me which started the "Napolean" stuff, was this:

"But that little Napolean guy they loaned to France did a pretty good job for the French for a while. Isn't it funny that France's greatest ruler was an Italian?"

Note the use of the phrase "isn't it funny" in the sentence? Couldn't that possibly indicate that the comment was tongue in cheek fun, rather than some evil serious attack on the French, as you seem to want people to believe?

But hey, that's just yet another example of how you've misinterpreted my messages.

It's OK, JR. We really know you're not really serious if you don't mention guns.

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So if this is France's fault, I'm guessing you guys all really hate the US for dogfighting, right?

Wendy W.

I can definately say I hate anybody who fights dogs. I think that there is not enough jail time appropiate for this kind of ****** activity in the U.S. Even if some asshole who does this was to get life in jail I would not be satisfied.

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