artistcalledian 0 #26 October 16, 2005 do you think Bush would have gone into Iraq if there wasn't oil there? i'm not being scarcastic, i'm genuinly not sure myself and it pains me to see our Prime Minister, Tont Blair, jump to the tune of Bush as if he's his lap dog.________________________________________ drive it like you stole it and f*ck the police Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andrewwhyte 1 #27 October 16, 2005 Quotedo you think Bush would have gone into Iraq if there wasn't oil there? There's no oil in Afghanistan. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gawain 0 #28 October 16, 2005 QuoteQuotedo you think Bush would have gone into Iraq if there wasn't oil there? There's no oil in Afghanistan. ...or in the Balkans. ...or in Liberia. ...or in Somalia. ...or in Grenada.So I try and I scream and I beg and I sigh Just to prove I'm alive, and it's alright 'Cause tonight there's a way I'll make light of my treacherous life Make light! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
artistcalledian 0 #30 October 16, 2005 but then his father didn't half-finish a job in those countries either what about all the other countries in the world where there is mass pursecution of its own people and nothing ever seems to get done? Rwanda, Zimbabwe, etc.... guess those people can fend for themselves, its the Iraqi's that really need help..... It just seems too much of a coincidence that.. 1. Bush senior left Saddam in power when he should have followed him into Iraq and not wait for his son to finish it off when prompted by the twin towers 2. there is oil in iraq 3. Israel is right next door and funded by vast sums of money from jewish people in America. did "dubya" really think a "war on terrorism" was going to win? there are more suicide bombers now than there has ever been, we in England are now starting to get them, just like countries around the world... and no doubt American will soon too. You can't stop people who are willing to pay the ultimate price and strap a bomb to themselves.... was that so hard to figure out before we got the situation we've got now? i say "well done" to politicians on both sides of the pond for being so short sighted and landing us in the position we're in right now. But i guess a gung ho, knee jerk reaction was required to appease the masses, so lets say hello to more and more suicide bombers (i'm sure the 52 people killed on the London underground on the 7th of July where happy that there is a war on terror) In Northern Ireland, we had 35 years of terrorist bombings and killings due to the military approach, it was only when people finally realised that that wasn't working did they start to negotiate.________________________________________ drive it like you stole it and f*ck the police Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gawain 0 #31 October 16, 2005 You have several of your facts wrong. The Balkans were initiated by President Clinton. Somalia was G.H.W. Bush, and Granada was Reagan. G.H.W. Bush left Saddam in power, because his mandate was to liberate Kuwait. Being a former UN Ambassador, Bush, Sr. had a different take on the UN than does his son. As for the Rwanda, and Zimbabwe (and current Sudan) issues, I too believe we should have acted. BTW, we're still in the Balkans. One place I can think of where it just doesn't seem to work, no matter what, is Haiti.So I try and I scream and I beg and I sigh Just to prove I'm alive, and it's alright 'Cause tonight there's a way I'll make light of my treacherous life Make light! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
artistcalledian 0 #32 October 16, 2005 QuoteOne place I can think of where it just doesn't seem to work, no matter what, is Haiti*** It's Voodoo !!!! argghhhhhhh ________________________________________ drive it like you stole it and f*ck the police Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites kallend 2,106 #33 October 17, 2005 QuoteQuoteQuotedo you think Bush would have gone into Iraq if there wasn't oil there? There's no oil in Afghanistan. ...or in the Balkans. ...or in Liberia. ...or in Somalia. ...or in Grenada. Or Sierra Leone or Zimbabwe or Rwanda or Sudan... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites tso-d_chris 0 #34 October 17, 2005 Quotedo you think Bush would have gone into Iraq if there wasn't oil there? i'm not being scarcastic, i'm genuinly not sure myself and it pains me to see our Prime Minister, Tont Blair, jump to the tune of Bush as if he's his lap dog. I think that the war on terror is (hopefully) the last hurrah of the Cold War. We funded the militant approach for decades, and now in the militants eyes the enemy is the hand that used to feed. The wars in Afghanistan and Iraq are the results of our heavy handed foreign policy in years past and present. Oil is what made the region so important to us, but the instability, to which we have considerably contributed, is why we are there. I do believe that there are opportunists who are working the system up high to bilk huge profits at taxpayer expense. I'm just not sure whether those opportunists are actually in office, or merely influencing those that are. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 Next Page 2 of 2 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0
kallend 2,106 #33 October 17, 2005 QuoteQuoteQuotedo you think Bush would have gone into Iraq if there wasn't oil there? There's no oil in Afghanistan. ...or in the Balkans. ...or in Liberia. ...or in Somalia. ...or in Grenada. Or Sierra Leone or Zimbabwe or Rwanda or Sudan... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tso-d_chris 0 #34 October 17, 2005 Quotedo you think Bush would have gone into Iraq if there wasn't oil there? i'm not being scarcastic, i'm genuinly not sure myself and it pains me to see our Prime Minister, Tont Blair, jump to the tune of Bush as if he's his lap dog. I think that the war on terror is (hopefully) the last hurrah of the Cold War. We funded the militant approach for decades, and now in the militants eyes the enemy is the hand that used to feed. The wars in Afghanistan and Iraq are the results of our heavy handed foreign policy in years past and present. Oil is what made the region so important to us, but the instability, to which we have considerably contributed, is why we are there. I do believe that there are opportunists who are working the system up high to bilk huge profits at taxpayer expense. I'm just not sure whether those opportunists are actually in office, or merely influencing those that are. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites