Mockingbird 0 #226 June 26, 2006 QuoteKinda like the link in Pajarito's sig line - "Are you a good person?". It kinda annoys me that he judges me (using God as a proxy) and insinuates I am a bad person. That makes me prone to be harsher than usual regarding his faith. Pajarito isn't judging whether you, personally, are good or not. Only God can do that, and the link in Paj's sig line merely takes you to a site that allows you to judge yourself, in a sense, by taking a test based on God's standard of the moral law. That's how Jesus helped at least one man we know of discover whether or not he was "good." Having said that though, all men and women are "bad" in the sense that we are disconnected from God by our sin. Man was made to be connected to God; our sin has broken the relationship; and we can't be restored to Him except through Christ. That's the gospel in a nutshell. [I realize that you weren't addressing me, but I wanted to jump into the conversation. I hope choosing this spot was OK.] Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mockingbird 0 #227 June 26, 2006 QuoteOnly in your mind. That's why it's called "faith". You're using the word "faith" here as tho' faith has no grounds... as tho' it's merely based on feelings. Faith= the assurance of the heart in the adequacy of the evidence Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,070 #228 June 26, 2006 QuoteQuoteOnly in your mind. That's why it's called "faith". You're using the word "faith" here as tho' faith has no grounds... as tho' it's merely based on feelings. Faith= the assurance of the heart in the adequacy of the evidence LOL. Another way of saying it has no grounds.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
beowulf 1 #229 June 26, 2006 Nice word game. But if you break it down all you are saying is that you truly really believe in the evidence being adequate despite no real hard evidence. So really it is all in your head. No matter how hard you believe in something it doesn't make it true. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,070 #230 June 26, 2006 QuoteNice word game. But if you break it down all you are saying is that you truly really believe in the evidence being adequate despite no real hard evidence. So really it is all in your head. No matter how hard you believe in something it doesn't make it true. Weasel-word games are all you will ever get. Faith and proof are mutually exclusive and that's that. Contorted explanations as to why the contradictions in the Bible are not contradictions are par for the course.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JackC 0 #231 June 26, 2006 QuoteQuoteIf God really was the author don't you think he'd have made a better job of writing it? Honestly, from the so-called devinely inspired scriptures the only thing I can get is that this God is an incompetant retard when it comes to PR. His biggest publication is an insult to trees. Commandment # 3: You shall not take the name of the Lord your God in vain, for the Lord will not hold him guiltless who takes His name in vain. Hey, blasphemy is a victimless crime. If I'm proved wrong when I die, I'll walk straight up to god and punch the sadistic fucker in the mouth. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pajarito 0 #232 June 26, 2006 QuoteHey, blasphemy is a victimless crime. If I'm proved wrong when I die, I'll walk straight up to god and punch the sadistic fucker in the mouth. God is the victim of your blasphemy. It's your life. The Bible says you will spend eternity in hell unless you have a change of heart. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,536 #233 June 26, 2006 QuoteGod is the victim of your blasphemy. what happens to him?Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pajarito 0 #234 June 26, 2006 QuoteQuoteGod is the victim of your blasphemy. what happens to him? It doesn't bring him glory. He is the source of your life and everything you have or will ever have. A fallen branch can't live apart from the tree. One should be more grateful. Let me clarify something. I don't mean God is a victim in that he can be hurt by our actions or that he somehow "needs" you to obey. Neither is true. God is love. We exist because we are an expression of that love. We exist for his enjoyment. We were also made to enjoy him in that we were created in his image. Rejecting God with your blasphemy is to not fulfill the purpose which God intended for you. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,536 #235 June 26, 2006 QuoteIt doesn't bring him glory. If I said nothing, it wouldn't bring god glory. If I said fuck, it wouldn't bring god glory. If I said god damnit, it wouldn't bring god glory. So again, how does blasphemy hurt god?Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SpeedRacer 1 #236 June 26, 2006 It doesn't. It hurts you. Speed Racer -------------------------------------------------- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pajarito 0 #237 June 26, 2006 QuoteQuoteIt doesn't bring him glory. If I said nothing, it wouldn't bring god glory. If I said fuck, it wouldn't bring god glory. If I said god damnit, it wouldn't bring god glory. So again, how does blasphemy hurt god? You can't hurt God. Read my previous post. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KidWicked 0 #238 June 26, 2006 QuoteFat ladies keep pinching me and asking me "do I look fat in these genes?" Bravo!Coreece: "You sound like some skinheads I know, but your prejudice is with Christians, not niggers..." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hairyjuan 0 #239 June 26, 2006 the exact opposite of what you state is the truth. even the the jews know better www.messiahtruth.comwe are all one consciousness experiencing itself subjectively wishers never choose, choosers never wish Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,536 #240 June 26, 2006 QuoteYou can't hurt God. Read my previous post. Well then god isn't the victim of blasphemyDo you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pajarito 0 #241 June 26, 2006 QuoteQuoteYou can't hurt God. Read my previous post. Well then god isn't the victim of blasphemy QuoteLet me clarify something. I don't mean God is a victim in that he can be hurt by our actions or that he somehow "needs" you to obey. Neither is true. God is love. We exist because we are an expression of that love. We exist for his enjoyment. We were also made to enjoy him in that we were created in his image. Rejecting God with your blasphemy is to not fulfill the purpose which God intended for you. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pajarito 0 #242 June 26, 2006 Quotethe exact opposite of what you state is the truth. even the the jews know better I think you're the "anti-paj." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hairyjuan 0 #243 June 26, 2006 to say that the bible proves itself, is THE fatal flaw in all "reasoning" in support of the the bible. it proves itself false! www.truthbeknown.comwe are all one consciousness experiencing itself subjectively wishers never choose, choosers never wish Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
narcimund 0 #244 June 26, 2006 Quoteto say that the bible proves itself, is THE fatal flaw in all "reasoning" in support of the the bible. it proves itself false! www.truthbeknown.com Hey! Someone taught the hairybot to make links. Woo hoo! First Class Citizen Twice Over Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hairyjuan 0 #245 June 26, 2006 try this one out for size on the subject of astrotheology, (the bible). WOO HOO www.jordanmaxwell.comwoohoowe are all one consciousness experiencing itself subjectively wishers never choose, choosers never wish Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pajarito 0 #246 June 26, 2006 Quoteto say that the bible proves itself, is THE fatal flaw in all "reasoning" in support of the the bible. it proves itself false! How so? By the way... You ARE the "anti-paj." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydyvr 0 #247 June 27, 2006 QuoteHey! Someone taught the hairybot to make links. Woo hoo! That fuckin' thing gets funnier every day. . . =(_8^(1) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mockingbird 0 #248 June 27, 2006 I'm sorry you don't see the difference. I would think you, being a scientist, could. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mockingbird 0 #249 June 27, 2006 You, too, Beowulf. I wish I could make you see the difference, but I know that's not possible since your mind is closed. Blue skies & happy jitters ~Mockingbird "Why is there something rather than nothing?" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dolph 0 #250 June 27, 2006 QuoteQuoteto say that the bible proves itself, is THE fatal flaw in all "reasoning" in support of the the bible. it proves itself false! How so? By the way... You ARE the "anti-paj." Becuase it's a circular argument Paj. A logical fallacy also known as "begging the question". In short, the propopsition is assumed to be true in one (or more) of the premises. It's a rather well documented (not to say well used!) one. I am always right when I write posts. I write this post on DZ.com. Therefore, I am right. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
