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Those bikers sound like a great bunch of lads (and girls). I think people who protest at funerals deserve a swift kick in the nuts.

Just wondering though, it says they use legal and peaceful means to stop protesters. How does that work??

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Check out the media links on their site. Newspaper articles and news video clips about it. They basically make a wall of people between the protestros and the funeral home, block the view of their signs from the families with American Flags, and they drown out the protestors with their exhaust pipes.

Plus, since a group of bikers can't go many places withou attracting the attention of the police, a bunch of cops will tag along who appear to be more concerned about keeping the assholes from trespassing at funeral homes and churches, rather than screw with the peaceful, and invited bikers.

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This is the asshole I said I'd punch in the face if he showed up with a bullhorn at my brothers funeral.

This is a group of bikers that stop them through more peaceful means (although I still advocate a punch in the face).

This is the schedule of funerals the assholes plan to disrupt.



Talk about a lose-lose situation. On one side we have a group of flaming assholes. On the other, we have vigilanties using threats of physical harm to teach 'respect' (can you say shades of KKK?).

I'd like to stop both groups through legal means.
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I didn't see the part where the threat of violence was made on the web page.

I think they have a good cause at hand and the families deserve the opertunity to greave with out hearing and seeing that kind of hatred directed at their loved one.

It would be better if the "legal" means was directed at the root cause. The bikers would not have to feel they need to protect those families and the families would not need the protection, if the idiot who started the protests actually believed what his chosen religion preached.

I do not beleive he is "truly" a "Christian". Just some dumb, self centered ass, who is trying to get his family ostrsized by a society that for the most part beleives in its freedoms and understand that some have volunteered to give their lives (if need be) regardless of pilotical belief.

Unfortunatly (as sudgested in another thread) the "ignore them and they will go away" idea doesn't seem to have worked since America is having a low tolerance for this sort of behaiver and run out of patience with it.

But that is just my take on it.
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This is the asshole I said I'd punch in the face if he showed up with a bullhorn at my brothers funeral.

This is a group of bikers that stop them through more peaceful means (although I still advocate a punch in the face).

This is the schedule of funerals the assholes plan to disrupt.



Talk about a lose-lose situation. On one side we have a group of flaming assholes. On the other, we have vigilanties using threats of physical harm to teach 'respect' (can you say shades of KKK?).

I'd like to stop both groups through legal means.



Did you even read what the bikers do? Hell, did you even read the original post?

On the face of your reply, I'd say no -- you let your biases shine through brightly. It's people like you who give knee-jerk liberals a bad name.

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If they were in my neighborhood, I'd go along just to help the bikers hold the flag higher to cover the signs. And I'd yodel to help drown out the things they say.

And I'd punch them in the schnozz if they dared bump me.

Fucktards.

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While our hearts lie bleeding?~

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This is the asshole I said I'd punch in the face if he showed up with a bullhorn at my brothers funeral.

This is a group of bikers that stop them through more peaceful means (although I still advocate a punch in the face).

This is the schedule of funerals the assholes plan to disrupt.



Talk about a lose-lose situation. On one side we have a group of flaming assholes. On the other, we have vigilanties using threats of physical harm to teach 'respect' (can you say shades of KKK?).

I'd like to stop both groups through legal means.



Did you even read what the bikers do? Hell, did you even read the original post?

On the face of your reply, I'd say no -- you let your biases shine through brightly. It's people like you who give knee-jerk liberals a bad name.



You're right of course. Quite silly of me. I should have realized the bikers would be there to engage in calm, reasonable discussion.

Guess it's cause I'm just a knee-jerk liberal wannabe, but I would prefer legal means (restraining order) to keep the god freaks away.

I will not allow my extreme dislike of this group to encourage and support vigilante justice. This country has seen too much of that in it's history.
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I don't understand what they hope to accomplish with that type of protest.
Disrupting funerals.... tacky, distasteful, no respect for the dead. Why would they want that image?

I understand why the bikers are there, but do think they could be as disruptive.

The funeral is about honoring the spirit of the deceased.... there shouldn't be political motives!!
Someone's momma didn't teach him/her proper manners! (probably one too many "timeouts" or discussions as a 2 year old)

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Yep, although my yodeling probably wouldn't be considered speech at all. More like wounded animal screeching, but hey, I haven't quit my day job.

Ciels-
Michele



You would do this, of course, in a non-disruptive manner that was respectful to the family of the deceased.

I consider it respectful to use legal means to ensure the family peace to mourn their loved one, you choose to screech like a wounded animal ...and I'm the asshole???

As much as we both dislike the antics of these god freaks, your way (the biker's way) would contribute to the disrespect. Keep the politics (yours and theirs) away from the family.
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I consider it respectful to use legal means to ensure the family peace to mourn their loved one, you choose to screech like a wounded animal ...and I'm the asshole???


Good lord, child, when did I call you an asshole?

Ciels-
Michele


~Do Angels keep the dreams we seek
While our hearts lie bleeding?~

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If we "generalize" and "stereotype" that would be true.

The bikers from then are not the same as the organizations invovled now.

If you use a group with a bad reputation who is, living up to it, then you will get those results.

The current groups are not with bad reps since that is not their reason to be in those groups.

On another note.

I went to the web page.
I read a lot of it.
I feel they have really twisted the teachings they say they are following. (They have a good spin doctor in their organization.)

They are a hate group and admit it.

They blame me, your son and any soldier past or present along with all Religuos, Liberal, Conservative or Independant politicians for these "acts of Gods Revenge" (Tsunami, earth quake, IED and any other thing that causes a death of a human being).

They claim alot.

In My Opinoin! They have gone beyond the protection of Freedom of Speach. They are acting and "preaching" this way in an effert to get a response. They even prefer the violant ones as it helps them stay in the lime light.

In My Opinion, they are trying to "incite" responses that will get the responder in trouble, all the while they hide behind the coat of protection provided by the "freedom of speach".
An Instructors first concern is student safety.
So, start being safe, first!!!

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