Bigwind 0 #26 December 3, 2005 QuoteQuoteFucktards. Asshats. scrotal sacks Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,106 #27 December 3, 2005 QuoteQuoteQuoteFucktards. Asshats. scrotal sacks All of the above are true, but Two wrongs still do not make a right. Never have, never will.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
waltappel 1 #28 December 3, 2005 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteFucktards. Asshats. scrotal sacks All of the above are true, but Two wrongs still do not make a right. Never have, never will. Let's say the fuckers get the beat down they deserve. Where are the two wrongs in that situation? Walt Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sinker 0 #29 December 3, 2005 QuoteLet's say the fuckers get the beat down they deserve. Where are the two wrongs in that situation? you sorta answered your own question. -the artist formerly known as sinker Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
waltappel 1 #30 December 3, 2005 QuoteQuoteLet's say the fuckers get the beat down they deserve. Where are the two wrongs in that situation? you sorta answered your own question. In the US, we live in a culture where very little is held sacred and it's ok to question or poke fun at anything or anyone. IMO, that is at the same time one of our greatest strengths and one of our greatest weaknesses, but I like it that way. Some people are off-limits, though. You (the generic "you", not you personally) don't fuck with our military--especially those who have died in service to our country. You damn sure don't fuck with the loved ones of our military who have died. I have no problem with anyone who does pretty much anything to the fuckers who do. Walt Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
artistcalledian 0 #31 December 3, 2005 QuoteSome people are off-limits, though. You (the generic "you", not you personally) don't fuck with our military--especially those who have died in service to our country. You damn sure don't fuck with the loved ones of our military who have died. oh please, spare us the chest beating bollocks many people are fucking with your beloved military (why is it so many Americans seem to get a hard on at the mear mention of this word?) and your boys are coming back in bodybags in ever increasing numbers The Royal Marines and Parachute regiment are considered by the people in the know, to be the best fighting regiments in the world. We won't even talk about how good the S.A.S are Look at what we did in the Falklands, the Marines and Para's were out numbered 6 to 1 and still kicked the fuck out of them America would have thrown many more troops into the situation to have got the job done, you always do that to make up for lack of actual fighting skill. Were you standing to attention, saluting the starts and stripes, with an erection when you typed that?________________________________________ drive it like you stole it and f*ck the police Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,106 #32 December 3, 2005 QuoteQuoteQuoteLet's say the fuckers get the beat down they deserve. Where are the two wrongs in that situation? you sorta answered your own question. In the US, we live in a culture where very little is held sacred and it's ok to question or poke fun at anything or anyone. IMO, that is at the same time one of our greatest strengths and one of our greatest weaknesses, but I like it that way. Some people are off-limits, though. You (the generic "you", not you personally) don't fuck with our military--especially those who have died in service to our country. You damn sure don't fuck with the loved ones of our military who have died. I have no problem with anyone who does pretty much anything to the fuckers who do. Walt Lowering yourself to the level of the people you despise is not a good strategy for success. My son is currently in the US Army in Iraq, so I have my own strong opinions about the idiots making fools of themselves at these funerals.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydyvr 0 #33 December 3, 2005 Quoteoh please, spare us the chest beating bollocks Your advice would be a little more credible if you followed it yourself . . . QuoteThe Royal Marines and Parachute regiment . . . best fighting regiments in the world. We won't even talk about how good the S.A.S are . . Look at what we did in the Falklands, the Marines and Para's were out numbered 6 to 1 and still kicked the fuck out of them . . . . . . . . you always do that to make up for lack of actual fighting skill. Followed by this brilliant question lol . . . QuoteWere you standing to attention, saluting the starts and stripes, with an erection when you typed that? . . =(_8^(1) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
matthewcline 0 #34 December 3, 2005 If you ignore him he will go away.An Instructors first concern is student safety. So, start being safe, first!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
waltappel 1 #35 December 3, 2005 QuoteWere you standing to attention, saluting the starts and stripes, with an erection when you typed that? Congratulations. Having seen many of your attempts at shit stirring and adding humor to threads, I must say, you finally came up with a good one! Walt Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
artistcalledian 0 #36 December 3, 2005 QuoteQuoteWere you standing to attention, saluting the starts and stripes, with an erection when you typed that? Congratulations. Having seen many of your attempts at shit stirring and adding humor to threads, I must say, you finally came up with a good one! Walt ________________________________________ drive it like you stole it and f*ck the police Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seedy 0 #37 December 3, 2005 Why don't you tell us what legal means you would use without violating the free speech rights of either side. What would be the basis of this almighty restraining order you would get. That is the quandary we face in the US today. I intend to live forever -- so far, so good. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jenfly00 0 #38 December 3, 2005 QuoteWhy don't you tell us what legal means you would use without violating the free speech rights of either side. What would be the basis of this almighty restraining order you would get. That is the quandary we face in the US today. Indeed it is. It is a price we must pay, however, or allow the 'patriots' to destroy this country. If a court order could not be obtained, what alternatives would you support? Bikers confrontinging the god freaks screeching animal sounds to drown them out. How bout we just beat the shit out of them or even hang them ...and dishonor what this fallen soldier fought for?----------------------- "O brave new world that has such people in it". Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydyvr 0 #39 December 3, 2005 QuoteIt is a price we must pay, however, or allow the 'patriots' to destroy this country. Please identify the "patriots" in this case. . . =(_8^(1) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ReBirth 0 #40 December 3, 2005 Wow, what a bunch of ignorant bigotted responses. The bikers doing this are groups such as Christian Bikers, Bikers Aginst Child Abuse, and Harleys Owner Group. They're riding clubs not motorcycle gangs. And they ONLY GO IF THEY ARE INVITED BY THE FAMILY. They only use peaceful means. Jen....you can't get a restraining order against legal protests. The assholes have a legal right to do what they are doing. And so do the bikers. They stand between the family (WHO INVITE THEM) and the protestors, to block the family's view of the assholes. That's it. Did you people even follow the links and read the details? Or did you just make a bunch of assumptiong. Maybe you should actually know what you are talking about instead of making suppostions and baseless accusations. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
labrys 0 #41 December 3, 2005 QuoteIf you ignore him he will go away. Unfortunately, no. Fred isn't going anywhere. He's been pulling this shit forever and the only reason he's in a bigger spotlight now is because he's targeting vets instead of "fags". Most of you didn't give a rats ass about this guy until he crossed into your yards. Deal with him. He's not going anywhere. You bred him. Deal with him.Owned by Remi #? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ReBirth 0 #42 December 3, 2005 How's this for legal means. From the links in my first post. Note the signature: QuoteI believe I speak for the Grigg family as well as the town of Inola when I say thank ya'll for the honor you showed Travis in your appearance at his funeral. I also wish to thank the riders for their assistance and behavior in dealing with the protestors. It made our job much easier. Again, Thank You. Brad Craig, Chief of Police, Inola, OK QuoteI want to thank you from the bottom of my heart for attending the service for my nephew Travis Grigg. The family was truly humbled by your efforts and your presence. We will be forever grateful for your participation on Wed night and again on Saturday afternoon. May God bless each and every one of you. Sincerely, Tommie Grigg And this is a snippet from the ride report one of the bikers wrote about his participation. QuoteSgt. Parker’s mother walked in, clutching the triangle flag to her breast. I stopped and dropped my head. Without hesitation, she came straight to me, wrapped her arms around my neck, and with tears streaming down her cheeks, said “Thank you, thank you for being here”. For a group of skydivers, not always seen in the best light by whuffos, I'd expect a little less stereotyping of a group of common hobbyists donating their time to help ease the grief of strangers. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
labrys 0 #43 December 3, 2005 QuoteFor a group of skydivers, not always seen in the best light by whuffos, I'd expect a little less stereotyping of a group of common hobbyists donating their time to help ease the grief of strangers. That's so very true.Owned by Remi #? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RhondaLea 4 #44 December 3, 2005 QuoteFor a group of skydivers, not always seen in the best light by whuffos, I'd expect a little less stereotyping of a group of common hobbyists donating their time to help ease the grief of strangers. Gets my vote. I'm kinda surprised at you, John, that you would reference an incident that occurred in 1969 as evidence that bikers are not a good choice. There are many more bike clubs these days that are organized around positive activities than there are gangs. Times have changed. The group mentioned here is just one example of that. I know you mentioned legal action, Jen, but if you think it's possible to get a restraining order, then you misunderstand the right to free speech. It boggles my mind that in your mind blocking this group of hate-mongers is the equivalent of "vigilantism." It plays out as "it's okay for the hate-mongers to disrupt a funeral, but it's not okay for bikers to disrupt hate-mongers." Sorry, can't follow the logic. rlIf you don't know where you're going, you should know where you came from. Gullah Proverb Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
matthewcline 0 #45 December 3, 2005 The post was to ignore an artistcalledian's comments. Fred was and has been an ass for a while, your right. I didn't support his views when he target "fags" and find his new approach even more deplorable. Vets may not be "untouchable" but how about alittle respect since they have given their lives for freedom. The same freedom he is excersising, my opinion he is abusing. He is one of his own worst enemies. His web sights responses to people who have been emotionally hurt by his actions are down right hateful. People he never met he is labeling and condemming. He condems countries and cultures based on a tatered King James Version of the Bible. He upset his home township so much that people won elections on a platform of opposing him. I feel sorry for his children. To be raised so diluted from the truth and so alienated from society has got to be painful when (or if) they get to realize it. He is one of the many Religous zealots who use the lack of seperation from church and state and the Bill of Rights to spout their hatred. I still stand by my conviction he has crossed the line and is purposly incitful to the point of being "criminal".An Instructors first concern is student safety. So, start being safe, first!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
labrys 0 #46 December 3, 2005 QuoteThe post was to ignore an artistcalledian's comments. I missed that when I read your post. Looking back I see my mistake. I'm very sorry about that.Owned by Remi #? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,106 #47 December 3, 2005 QuoteQuoteFor a group of skydivers, not always seen in the best light by whuffos, I'd expect a little less stereotyping of a group of common hobbyists donating their time to help ease the grief of strangers. Gets my vote. I'm kinda surprised at you, John, that you would reference an incident that occurred in 1969 as evidence that bikers are not a good choice. There are many more bike clubs these days that are organized around positive activities than there are gangs. Times have changed. The group mentioned here is just one example of that. rl Sometimes, like Calpurnia, you have to be seen to be above reproach as well as being above reproach. I just think it's a bad choice, but then I remember 1969 really very well. I guess you weren't around then.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
matthewcline 0 #48 December 3, 2005 Not needed. It got me to go back and re-look some of the 2 web sights. I signed on with the bikers. But since I will already be at a few of the Funerals as a Soldier taking his comrad to his family I will not be on the picket line. I know 2 of the Soldiers he has been to the funerals to disrupt. I get so angry about it I feel I should attack him too. But that would only give him more fuel and even make a few of the posters here say "see told ya so!". But it would kind of be funny (IMO) to watch the national news and see a soldier knocking his lights out. I wonder how many charctor whitness the soldier would be able to call to the stand? He would probably have a few volunteers.An Instructors first concern is student safety. So, start being safe, first!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ReBirth 0 #49 December 3, 2005 1969 was the Hell's Angels, they are 1%ers. They're called 1%ers for a reason. Think about it. But if you want ot use that as a gauge of the other 99%, knock yourself out....you death junkie, drug using, hard partying, bank robbing skydiver. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
labrys 0 #50 December 3, 2005 QuoteBut it would kind of be funny (IMO) to watch the national news and see a soldier knocking his lights out In my eyes, even funnier to see a "filthy dyke" who also happens to be a gulf war vet clock him silly. I'm in line Owned by Remi #? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
