miked10270 0 #26 December 13, 2005 Quotecould it be set in Vietnam? ... NO IT EFFIN' CAN'T!!! Nae-Bugger died & made you Lew Grade! The climax is set in WASHINGTON DC! Wiff Dubya & Condie together in the Presidential Bog just as the second Bouncin-Basketball-Bomb smashes through the window!! You CAN'T put Dubya in Vietnam!!!... He was in The TEXAS NATIONAL GUARD AIR FORCE!... Remember!? Mike. Edited to add: Anyway... some of Sir David's "Bedsheet-Wearing" associates have since been in touch. We've now got a working title: THE DAMNATION-BUSTERS! Taking the piss out of the FrenchAmericans since before it was fashionable. Prenait la pisse hors du FrançaisCanadiens méridionaux puisqu'avant lui à la mode. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #27 December 13, 2005 Side note . . . Watch the final aerial attack sequence of The Dambusters back to back with the final aerial attack in Star Wars Episode 4. Hmmm.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
christelsabine 1 #28 December 13, 2005 QuoteQuotecould it be set in Vietnam? ... NO IT EFFIN' CAN'T!!! Nae-Bugger died & made you Lew Grade! The climax is set in WASHINGTON DC! Wiff Dubya & Condie together in the Presidential Bog just as the second Bouncin-Basketball-Bomb smashes through the window!! You CAN'T put Dubya in Vietnam!!!... He was in The TEXAS NATIONAL GUARD AIR FORCE!... Remember!? Yes. We know. Sitting on a fine desk working his ass off on paper fights...or so. But, more important to me, what's about the 1st basketball bomb? Where did it go to? My information chain somewhere broke down Pls help me out wiff some more info... dudeist skydiver # 3105 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,106 #29 December 13, 2005 QuoteSide note . . . Watch the final aerial attack sequence of The Dambusters back to back with the final aerial attack in Star Wars Episode 4. Hmmm. Indeed - even the dialog is almost identical. And the dogfights between X-wings and tie fighters are reminiscent of The Battle of Britain.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,534 #30 December 13, 2005 That got me to looking. Blockbuster doesn't have it. The only copies on Ebay are in PAL format. Amazon doesn't have it. Where oh where can I find a copy? It sounds well worth watching. That said, apparently when it was released in the US the dog was renamed "Trigger." So there's already some precedent. And. according to IMDB, the dog that played Nigger in the movie was also named Nigger Wendy W.There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
miked10270 0 #31 December 13, 2005 Quote... more important to me, what's about the 1st basketball bomb? Where did it go to? My information chain somewhere broke down Pls help me out wiff some more info... PM sent... - it's post #16 I think. Mike. Taking the piss out of the FrenchAmericans since before it was fashionable. Prenait la pisse hors du FrançaisCanadiens méridionaux puisqu'avant lui à la mode. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AlexCrowley 0 #32 December 13, 2005 Netflix. TV's got them images, TV's got them all, nothing's shocking. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SudsyFist 0 #33 December 13, 2005 "Uh, I'm sorry sir, it's Nigger. He's been run over. He's dead..." just wouldn't have the same depth of feeling to it otherwise. Oh, and SPOILER ALERT. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites steve1 5 #34 December 13, 2005 um, so, did this guy choose to name his dog "Nigger" before or after he got brain damage? Well, he probably was pretty retarded to name a dog something like that. I guess "stupid is as stupid does" really fits in this case.....Steve1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
steve1 5 #34 December 13, 2005 um, so, did this guy choose to name his dog "Nigger" before or after he got brain damage? Well, he probably was pretty retarded to name a dog something like that. I guess "stupid is as stupid does" really fits in this case.....Steve1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mr2mk1g 10 #35 December 14, 2005 To those who voted "no"... Why should we re-write history in order to lie to ourselves about where we come from? Is it not important to know the kind of society from which we have sprung? The History Channel trailers put it best I think - History; why we are, who we are. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rwieder 0 #36 December 14, 2005 QuoteNo......he should be renamed.......... Maybe they could call him "Jail Break" "Rump Rider" "Pole Smoker" or maybe just "Spot" Point is, no matter what the rename, if any pretty much everything would be offensive to historical nuts or purists. Who cares if the stinking mutt gets renamed or not? I'm more concerned about world affairs myself.-Richard- "You're Holding The Rope And I'm Taking The Fall" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mr2mk1g 10 #37 December 14, 2005 QuoteI'm more concerned about world affairs myself. If you care about world affairs your first concern should be history. Otherwise we are doomed to simply endlessly repeat the same screw ups over and over and over again. Nigger wouldn't have had to see his master go on nearly so many raids if Chamberlain had just listened history's lessons about appeasement. Like I said - it's why we are who we are. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
steve1 5 #38 December 14, 2005 Watching an old movie or even reading an old book often reflects predjudice that people had during that time period. Reading many of Mark Twaine's stories the word "nigger" is often used. Maybe they should change the name. It's really offensive to a lot of people.....Steve1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #39 December 14, 2005 QuoteReading many of Mark Twaine's stories the word "nigger" is often used. Maybe they should change the name. Or just pretend lots of words were never used in history - in many contexts. It might just be easier to burn all the offensive books and stories.... another big winner from the left ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SudsyFist 0 #40 December 14, 2005 QuoteIt might just be easier to burn all the offensive books and stories.... another big winner from the left I thought it was just retards. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #41 December 14, 2005 QuoteQuoteIt might just be easier to burn all the offensive books and stories.... another big winner from the left I thought it was just retards. Don't burn the retards. That's not sensitive. (I'm not in here except for lunch, so I needed to stir up some self-righteous indignity from the usual crowd. let's see what happens...) ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
miked10270 0 #42 December 14, 2005 Quote... concern should be history. Otherwise we are doomed to simply endlessly repeat the same screw ups over and over and over again. Sorry! Are you suggesting that we AREN'T? Iran; 1953. Iraq; 2003. Mike. Taking the piss out of the FrenchAmericans since before it was fashionable. Prenait la pisse hors du FrançaisCanadiens méridionaux puisqu'avant lui à la mode. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
steve1 5 #43 December 14, 2005 Quote[ It might just be easier to burn all the offensive books and stories.... another big winner from the left Oh, I'm no lefty. At least I've never thought of myself as one. I never said anything about burning anything. I'm just wondering what good is going to come out of slandering another race of people by listening to the word "Nigger over and over again". Or even reading the word again and again in a hurtful manner. Maybe it doesn't hurt the average "White" guy much, but I wouldn't want my kids reading garbage like that in elementary school for example. I'm not in favor of Government Censorship. But I'm also not in favor of anything goes, anywhere, or anytime. I know we have a constitution, but there are still limits. I'd like to hear your opinion.....Steve1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
artistcalledian 0 #44 December 14, 2005 QuoteQuote[ It might just be easier to burn all the offensive books and stories.... another big winner from the left Oh, I'm no lefty. At least I've never thought of myself as one. I never said anything about burning anything. I'm just wondering what good is going to come out of slandering another race of people by listening to the word "Nigger over and over again". Or even reading the word again and again in a hurtful manner. Maybe it doesn't hurt the average "White" guy much, but I wouldn't want my kids reading garbage like that in elementary school for example. I'm not in favor of Government Censorship. But I'm also not in favor of anything goes, anywhere, or anytime. I know we have a constitution, but there are still limits. I'd like to hear your opinion.....Steve1 like i said, i think they should call the dog... sambo________________________________________ drive it like you stole it and f*ck the police Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
miked10270 0 #45 December 14, 2005 Quotelike i said, i think they should call the dog... sambo Don't be foolish. That name's reserved. Otherwise, what'll happen when Disney finally makes the feature length cartoon version of Rudyard Kipling's Children's classic "The Tale Of Little Black Sambo"? Mike. Taking the piss out of the FrenchAmericans since before it was fashionable. Prenait la pisse hors du FrançaisCanadiens méridionaux puisqu'avant lui à la mode. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,106 #46 December 14, 2005 QuoteWatching an old movie or even reading an old book often reflects predjudice that people had during that time period. Reading many of Mark Twaine's stories the word "nigger" is often used. Maybe they should change the name. It's really offensive to a lot of people.....Steve1 You see no difference between an actual historical event and a novel? The dog's name WAS "Nigger". And that is that.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
miked10270 0 #47 December 14, 2005 QuoteYou see no difference between an actual historical event and a novel? Actually, no I don't. For example, I read the Arthur Upfield books which are set in Australia in the 1930's & 1950's. More to the point they WERE WRITTEN in The Australian Outback in the 1930's & 1950's. Their language & attitudes reflect the times in which they were written. and the times they were written about. What DOES upset me is that these books are bloody difficult to get a hold of due to the fact that they're not often published because they're so politically incorrect by today's standards to the point that Upfield is reviled in Australia. Fans of his books all seem to be overseas & the publishing rights are all in Oz. Mike. Taking the piss out of the FrenchAmericans since before it was fashionable. Prenait la pisse hors du FrançaisCanadiens méridionaux puisqu'avant lui à la mode. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mr2mk1g 10 #48 December 15, 2005 QuoteSorry! Are you suggesting that we AREN'T? Nope - that's partly my point. America doesn't do good at history. Hell they went to Vietnam and did exactly the same thing as the French did 10 years earlier, then wondered why they got their ass handed to them just like the French did. It only took 10 years and they forgot everything. If they'd only start listening to history they'd realise the lessons they keep having to learn have been taught before. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nacmacfeegle 0 #49 December 15, 2005 "The dog's name WAS "Nigger". And that is that. " Who's to say it was? Nigger was the dogs name in the original film, it doesn't necessarily mean that this geezer's dog was actually called Nigger in the first place. Come on folks, its just a film, you know, entertainment and all that. edit to add>>> Hmm after the most basic of Googles, it transpires that the dogs name was indeed Nigger, oh lookee humble pie, my favourite, yum, yum. Changing the dogs name won't change history, at least not in the way that say, Band of Brothers or Braveheart did.....Both excellent entertainment but not particularly accurate. But the point remains, if you want historical accuracy, you should stay out of the film theatre, maybe read a book or two, or even watch something like 'The World At War', the original film was full of flaws anyways.-------------------- He who receives an idea from me, receives instruction himself without lessening mine; as he who lights his taper at mine, receives light without darkening me. Thomas Jefferson Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,106 #50 December 15, 2005 Quote"The dog's name WAS "Nigger". And that is that. " Who's to say it was? . Wing Commander Guy Gibson VC, said it was.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
