Pre-Ban vs Post-Ban AK-47

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I bought a post-ban Bulgarian AK-47 style rifle in 1997 or so. It had a "thumbhole" or "monte-carlo" style wood stock, I assume to meet the post-ban requirements. After the purchase, I installed a pistol grip and reworked the stock into a normal style stock. Those changes may have been illegal while the "assault weapons" ban was in effect. Since the ban was not reauthorized at its expiration, I wonder if the rifle I modified is currently legal?

It is possible, of course, that as soon as the "assault weapons ban" expired, all law-abiding citizens in the US were immediately killed by "assault weapons", and nobody is left to answer my question, which is understandable........

"Once we got to the point where twenty/something's needed a place on the corner that changed the oil in their cars we were doomed . . ."
-NickDG

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bought a post-ban Bulgarian AK-47 style rifle in 1997 or so. It had a "thumbhole" or "monte-carlo" style wood stock, I assume to meet the post-ban requirements. After the purchase, I installed a pistol grip and reworked the stock into a normal style stock. Those changes may have been illegal while the "assault weapons" ban was in effect. Since the ban was not reauthorized at its expiration, I wonder if the rifle I modified is currently legal?

Hello: There are some things, this being one of them, that a man has just GOT to keep to himself.

Know what i mean Vern?

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[1969912 0]

WOW! Just realized it was all a dream. The thumbhole stock seems to be intact, so we can all rest without worry.

Although the original post was the result of a dream, please consider it put forth, as originally written, as an academic inquiry, with no basis in reality. It is hoped that this academic inquiry will generate lively debate, which seems to be lacking considering the importance of the issue.

"Once we got to the point where twenty/something's needed a place on the corner that changed the oil in their cars we were doomed . . ."
-NickDG

[craddock 0]

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I bought a post-ban Bulgarian AK-47 style rifle in 1997 or so. It had a "thumbhole" or "monte-carlo" style wood stock, I assume to meet the post-ban requirements. After the purchase, I installed a pistol grip and reworked the stock into a normal style stock. Those changes may have been illegal while the "assault weapons" ban was in effect. Since the ban was not reauthorized at its expiration, I wonder if the rifle I modified is currently legal?

Yes, so long as you do not have any local laws prohibiting your weapon

That spot isn't bad at all, the winds were strong and that was the issue! It was just on the downwind side.

[namgrunt 0]

aunt shrillary says UGLY assult gunnss are baddd

wonder why the elected leaders in the dem. party want to remove the ability of the average citisen to defend themslves??

ask the folks in new orleans..why private ownership of gunnss might be a good idea.

I would NEVER own or posess ANY firearm thats a quote.

course a burglar or outher thug may have a supprise at ourr house.

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[BartsDaddy 7]

By your profile you live in washington. So yes it is legal.

Handguns are only used to fight your way to a good rifle

[DrewEckhardt 0]

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I bought a post-ban Bulgarian AK-47 style rifle in 1997 or so. It had a "thumbhole" or "monte-carlo" style wood stock, I assume to meet the post-ban requirements. After the purchase, I installed a pistol grip and reworked the stock into a normal style stock. Those changes may have been illegal while the "assault weapons" ban was in effect. Since the ban was not reauthorized at its expiration, I wonder if the rifle I modified is currently legal?

While the Clinton ban has sunset we still have the 1989 Bush 41 import ban that prohibits importing fun toys with pistol grips and 922(r) from 1990 that makes it illegal to assemble a gun that may not be imported when it contains more than 10 imported parts from the law's list.

This makes you a felon who can be imprisioned for not more than five years.

The legal work arround is to replace inexpensive imported parts from the list with US manufactured ones until only 10 foreign parts remain. Some companies use a US magazine floor plate and follower although I think that's a stupid idea because it gets very expensive once you convert your lifetime supply of high-capacity magazines for each gun and not converting all the magazines you touch makes inserting the wrong one a felony.

You can get a US parts kit for your gun from any decent company that sells sport-utility rifle parts.

The list is

1. Frames, receiver, receiver castings, forgings or stampings.
2. Barrels
3. Barrel extensions
4. Mounting blocks (trunions)
5. Muzzle attachments
6. Bolts
7. Bolt carriers
8. Operating Rods
9. Gas pistons
10. Trigger housings
11. Triggers
12. Hammers
13. Sears
14. Disconnectors
15. Buttstocks
16. Pistol grips
17. forarms, handguards
18. Magazine bodies
19. Followers
20. Floorplates

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I'd call the nearest BATFE field office and ask for an answer, and request it in writing.

mh

"The mouse does not know life until it is in the mouth of the cat."

[JohnRich 4]

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I'd call the nearest BATFE field office and ask for an answer, and request it in writing.

No no no... In order to get it in writing, he would have to give his name and address. Then they'll show up with handcuffs to haul him away.

Browse the BATF web site - they have answers like this in their FAQ files.

There are some truly stupid ways to get arrested just for working on a gun, like the aforementioned magic parts list for SKS type rifles.

[1969912 0]

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I'd call the nearest BATFE field office and ask for an answer, and request it in writing.

mh

Better yet, I'll just bring the rifle to a field office so they can see it in person!

"Once we got to the point where twenty/something's needed a place on the corner that changed the oil in their cars we were doomed . . ."
-NickDG

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I bought a post-ban Bulgarian AK-47 style rifle in 1997 or so. It had a "thumbhole" or "monte-carlo" style wood stock, I assume to meet the post-ban requirements. After the purchase, I installed a pistol grip and reworked the stock into a normal style stock. Those changes may have been illegal while the "assault weapons" ban was in effect. Since the ban was not reauthorized at its expiration, I wonder if the rifle I modified is currently legal?

It is possible, of course, that as soon as the "assault weapons ban" expired, all law-abiding citizens in the US were immediately killed by "assault weapons", and nobody is left to answer my question, which is understandable........

why the fuck do you need that?

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drive it like you stole it and f*ck the police

[1969912 0]

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I bought a post-ban Bulgarian AK-47 style rifle in 1997 or so. It had a "thumbhole" or "monte-carlo" style wood stock, I assume to meet the post-ban requirements. After the purchase, I installed a pistol grip and reworked the stock into a normal style stock. Those changes may have been illegal while the "assault weapons" ban was in effect. Since the ban was not reauthorized at its expiration, I wonder if the rifle I modified is currently legal?

It is possible, of course, that as soon as the "assault weapons ban" expired, all law-abiding citizens in the US were immediately killed by "assault weapons", and nobody is left to answer my question, which is understandable........

why the fuck do you need that?

It is a substitute for my small penis. What do you use?

"Once we got to the point where twenty/something's needed a place on the corner that changed the oil in their cars we were doomed . . ."
-NickDG

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I bought a post-ban Bulgarian AK-47 style rifle in 1997 or so. It had a "thumbhole" or "monte-carlo" style wood stock, I assume to meet the post-ban requirements. After the purchase, I installed a pistol grip and reworked the stock into a normal style stock. Those changes may have been illegal while the "assault weapons" ban was in effect. Since the ban was not reauthorized at its expiration, I wonder if the rifle I modified is currently legal?

It is possible, of course, that as soon as the "assault weapons ban" expired, all law-abiding citizens in the US were immediately killed by "assault weapons", and nobody is left to answer my question, which is understandable........

why the fuck do you need that?

It is a substitute for my small penis. What do you use?

skydiving, how about you?

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drive it like you stole it and f*ck the police

[1969912 0]

Ever considered having yourself bleached?

"Once we got to the point where twenty/something's needed a place on the corner that changed the oil in their cars we were doomed . . ."
-NickDG

[ViperPilot 0]

You can buy AKs with pistol grips and regular stocks like candy nowadays, especially the Bulgarian and Romanian ones...so I don't see how they're illegal. The whole foreign parts thing applied with the ban, but we're out of that bullshit ban!!!!!!

[1969912 0]

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You can buy AKs with pistol grips and regular stocks like candy nowadays, especially the Bulgarian and Romanian ones...so I don't see how they're illegal. The whole foreign parts thing applied with the ban, but we're out of that bullshit ban!!!!!!

Is my pre-ban Colt AR-15 worth less $ since the ban law went away?

"Once we got to the point where twenty/something's needed a place on the corner that changed the oil in their cars we were doomed . . ."
-NickDG

[craddock 0]

To alot of people yes but not entirely. That Colt is still worth good money because there are several states that have their own version of the AWB that is still on effect. If you are looking to sell it you want to target some of those states. They include California and the liberal group out east like NY, MA, MD, NJ. You can get a good $ for that Colt if you are looking to and buy or build a different manufacturers AR-15 for half the price. Quality would be every bit as good and you could get it to shoot better if you want. Depends on if the "Colt" name means anything to you.

That spot isn't bad at all, the winds were strong and that was the issue! It was just on the downwind side.

[ViperPilot 0]

There's a reason the military uses Colt; they're a damn good company. Anyone who knows anything about firearms knows that Colt makes the best product on the market. Just as craddok said, your AR is worth what it should be in states such as CA and the NE. You'd probably get less in the "non-ban" states since everyone can now buy ARs with collapsible stocks and birdcage flash hiders. However, you still have a Colt product that has continued to prove its superior design. I wouldn't worry to much about its value (especially in those retarded states).

[kallend 2,106]

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I'd call the nearest BATFE field office and ask for an answer, and request it in writing.

No no no... In order to get it in writing, he would have to give his name and address. Then they'll show up with handcuffs to haul him away.

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Nonsense - they're all too busy inspecting model rockets.

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I'd call the nearest BATFE field office and ask for an answer, and request it in writing.

No no no... In order to get it in writing, he would have to give his name and address. Then they'll show up with handcuffs to haul him away.

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Nonsense - they're all too busy inspecting model rockets.

lmao! too true, too true!

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And Chris. And...

[BartsDaddy 7]

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To alot of people yes but not entirely. That Colt is still worth good money because there are several states that have their own version of the AWB that is still on effect. If you are looking to sell it you want to target some of those states. They include California and the liberal group out east like NY, MA, MD, NJ. You can get a good $ for that Colt if you are looking to and buy or build a different manufacturers AR-15 for half the price. Quality would be every bit as good and you could get it to shoot better if you want. Depends on if the "Colt" name means anything to you.

In California at least and probably in thoose other states that have an AWB your colt is not worth anything because you can not sell it there. That is what the AWB does for you in thoose states.

Handguns are only used to fight your way to a good rifle

[hairyjuan 0]

government+guncontrol+disarmed citizens=Genocide,see JPFO.org

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[justinb138 0]

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You can buy AKs with pistol grips and regular stocks like candy nowadays, especially the Bulgarian and Romanian ones...so I don't see how they're illegal. The whole foreign parts thing applied with the ban, but we're out of that bullshit ban!!!!!!

I got to shoot my Romanian AK yesterday.
(Along with a new Bushmaster AR15, an M1 Carbine, a Ruger 10/22, a Ruger 9MM, a Remington 870 12GA, and some old 7.62x54 military rifle.)

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[DrewEckhardt 0]

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You can buy AKs with pistol grips and regular stocks like candy nowadays, especially the Bulgarian and Romanian ones...so I don't see how they're illegal.

The ones you can buy contain exactly 10 imported parts from the list and are therefore legal. Replacing the thumbole stock on your AK imported between 1989 and 1994 is not legal because it has more than 10 parts from the list.

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The whole foreign parts thing applied with the ban, but we're out of that bullshit ban!!!!!!

The 1968, 1986, 1989, and 1990 bans are all still with us.

[crotalus01 0]

thats why the ban(s) were/are bullshit...who cares how many foreign parts your weapon contains??? if the ATF is going to confiscate my AK-47 or my SKS and count the number of foreign parts in it, then i guess i am just going to have to pay the fine and do the time....

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