kbordson 8 #201 December 23, 2005 QuoteQuoteQuite true... remenber... not all americans have guns... Just the cool ones Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites juanesky 0 #202 December 23, 2005 My bad the word is Phrase"According to some of the conservatives here, it sounds like it's fine to beat your wide - as long as she had it coming." -Billvon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites SkyDekker 1,465 #203 December 23, 2005 QuoteI agree that reviewing the events and finding where the situation might have been averted is important. Thanks, I was finding it really odd that in a group of skydivers, I was the only one who thought like that. Accident and incident critical thinking should be ingrained in every skydiver.... Quoteis always better to avoid being in a compromised situation than to have to deal with the problems Which was my point right from the beginning. Quotebut the comment about her bravado was incorrect - in my opinion. I think she showed great strength and courage. I think her actions did as well. The bravado comment was regarding her comments to another question. Many here seem to have some trouble reading and understanding before they respond. Seems that when guns are involved, many start frothing at the mouth.... QuoteBut, I do see your point... and it is always better to learn from situations like that. You know, during Christmas in a civilized society, I think it is better to do that then to say...fuck, I'll just kill the motherfucker.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites micro 0 #204 December 23, 2005 QuoteMany here seem to have some trouble reading and understanding before they respond. Seems that when guns are involved, many start frothing at the mouth.... some posters should look in the mirror before making such silly allegations. I miss Lee. And JP. And Chris. And... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites artistcalledian 0 #205 December 23, 2005 QuoteQuoteMany here seem to have some trouble reading and understanding before they respond. Seems that when guns are involved, many start frothing at the mouth.... some posters should look in the mirror before making such silly allegations. i've stopped looking in mine, there's a crazy mofo in there staring at me ! ________________________________________ drive it like you stole it and f*ck the police Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites SkyDekker 1,465 #206 December 23, 2005 Quotesome posters should look in the mirror before making such silly allegations. If you mean me, you might as well just come out and say it. My ex-wife will tell you I don't do to well with hints And, once again, if the froth wouldn't have gotten in front of your eyes, you would have noticed I never questioned her having a gun, or her right to have one. I questioned if there could have been a way she could have avoided needing hers that night. I think that is just a logical way of looking at any incident, whether guns are involved or not. Unfortunately, guns are such an emotional subject for some that logic seems to go right out the window.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites micro 0 #207 December 23, 2005 it's your accusation of froth and emotionalism that i take exception to. those are unwarranted IMO and are all too often levelled at those who unfailingly defend one's second amendment rights. again, you can armchair quarterback this to death. while the best situation is to not need to use weapon, sometimes that cannot be avoided. it seems to me that what you're saying is that it would be better for her to have not been doing this work of charity in the first place, since it placed her in a neighborhood where the likelihood of such an incident is greater. sorry, to me that is untenable. while we should be prudent about our decisions, we should not go so far as to entirely govern our lives by what "could" happen or what "might" occur to us... to bring up your AAD analogy again, she had hers... her Glock cam in quite handy that night. IMO, it's about time people started standing up to thugs and low-lifes who want to prey on others. How else will we turn the tide of crime? I miss Lee. And JP. And Chris. And... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites artistcalledian 0 #208 December 23, 2005 QuoteHow else will we turn the tide of crime? by holding hands and singing songs join me in a little song will you? cum by yar my lord, cum by yar, cum by yar my lord, cum by yar.... cum by yard my lord, cum by yar, oh lord.. cum by yarrrrrrrrrr________________________________________ drive it like you stole it and f*ck the police Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites juanesky 0 #209 December 23, 2005 Quote.. many start frothing at the mouth.... QuoteIf you mean me, you might as well just come out and say it. My ex-wife will tell you I don't do to well with hints Yes, sure we understand you have difficulty understanding that you are commiting the same errors you are accusing Micro of. If you mean "MANY" who are those many?"According to some of the conservatives here, it sounds like it's fine to beat your wide - as long as she had it coming." -Billvon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites waltappel 1 #210 December 23, 2005 QuoteQuote.. many start frothing at the mouth.... QuoteIf you mean me, you might as well just come out and say it. My ex-wife will tell you I don't do to well with hints Yes, sure we understand you have difficulty understanding that you are commiting the same errors you are accusing Micro of. If you mean "MANY" who are those many? The original sentence was, "Seems that when guns are involved, many start frothing at the mouth.... " I hereby proudly declare myself to be one of the "many" frothers. Walt Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites micro 0 #211 December 23, 2005 QuoteQuoteQuote.. many start frothing at the mouth.... QuoteIf you mean me, you might as well just come out and say it. My ex-wife will tell you I don't do to well with hints Yes, sure we understand you have difficulty understanding that you are commiting the same errors you are accusing Micro of. If you mean "MANY" who are those many? The original sentence was, "Seems that when guns are involved, many start frothing at the mouth.... " I hereby proudly declare myself to be one of the "many" frothers. Walt well walt, if you put it THAT way, just about every time I step foot in a gun store, i'm like pavlov's dog. guilty as charged then. i like the smell of spent gun powder second only to the smell of jet exhaust. I miss Lee. And JP. And Chris. And... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites juanesky 0 #212 December 23, 2005 So are you ok with including me in the group? Even though I only got a Taurus 92FS, a S&W 500, shotgun, and an AR-15? Including CCW?"According to some of the conservatives here, it sounds like it's fine to beat your wide - as long as she had it coming." -Billvon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites waltappel 1 #213 December 23, 2005 QuoteSo are you ok with including me in the group? Even though I only got a Taurus 92FS, a S&W 500, shotgun, and an AR-15? Including CCW? No, that is up to you. I was speaking only for myself. Walt Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites juanesky 0 #214 December 23, 2005 Oh that's right, the original poster then included me! Guilty as charged too."According to some of the conservatives here, it sounds like it's fine to beat your wide - as long as she had it coming." -Billvon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites micro 0 #215 December 23, 2005 QuoteSo are you ok with including me in the group? Even though I only got a Taurus 92FS, a S&W 500, shotgun, and an AR-15? Including CCW? only if you post pics. I miss Lee. And JP. And Chris. And... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites rasmack 0 #216 December 23, 2005 QuoteQuote I still won't ever support the level of presence of weapons I see in the US. That's okay... I'll protect you. Me gets warm fuzzy feeling. HF #682, Team Dirty Sanchez #227 “I simply hate, detest, loathe, despise, and abhor redundancy.” - Not quite Oscar Wilde... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Flygurl 0 #217 December 24, 2005 Quote Me gets warm fuzzy feeling. I'll look you up next time I'm in the States. I look forward to it! ________________________________________ "One out of every four American's are suffering from some form of mental illness. Think of your three best friends. If they're okay, then it's you." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Dolph 0 #218 December 24, 2005 Having met Ras, yer probably gonna regret that . He's a big huggy-bear type of dude and as such I doubt he would require protection. Except from people with bear-hunting licenses. Ya coming to the Easter boogie at NJFK next time Ras? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites rasmack 0 #219 December 24, 2005 QuoteHaving met Ras, yer probably gonna regret that . He's a big huggy-bear type of dude and as such I doubt he would require protection. Except from people with bear-hunting licenses. Ya coming to the Easter boogie at NJFK next time Ras? Wouldn't miss it... Are you gonna get around to announcing it at some point? Was sort of waiting for it to show up on your calendar. Antonov 28?HF #682, Team Dirty Sanchez #227 “I simply hate, detest, loathe, despise, and abhor redundancy.” - Not quite Oscar Wilde... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites yamtx73 0 #220 December 24, 2005 Quote If he hadn't backed up when he did I think I would have double tapped him in the head. I'm just glad they walked away. I really do hope they think about it the next time they go to hassle someone else. Maybe looking down the barrel of a redheaded woman's Glock changed his view. In Florida she'd have been within her rights to squeeze off a couple if she felt she was in danger...The only naturals in this sport shit thru feathers... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites shropshire 0 #221 December 24, 2005 <> Wow... you can shoot people because they scare you.... Great, got to take me a gun to the circus... clowns are proper frightening (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites yamtx73 0 #222 December 24, 2005 not scare.. if you feel your life is in danger, and in the situation she was in....The only naturals in this sport shit thru feathers... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Scoop 0 #223 December 24, 2005 Justified Authorised Proportionate Auditable Neccesary Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites SkyDekker 1,465 #224 December 24, 2005 Quoteit's your accusation of froth and emotionalism that i take exception to. those are unwarranted IMO and are all too often levelled at those who unfailingly defend one's second amendment rights. See, but the funny thing is, nobody questioned your 2nd amendmend rights, specially not me. So, there really was no need to defend it. Quoteagain, you can armchair quarterback this to death. while the best situation is to not need to use weapon, sometimes that cannot be avoided. it seems to me that what you're saying is that it would be better for her to have not been doing this work of charity in the first place, since it placed her in a neighborhood where the likelihood of such an incident is greater. Nope, didn't say that either. Said it is normaly wise to review a lifetreatening incident to see if there is a way to reduce the risk of getting caught in one. It is the difference between: I don't care, cause I got me a gun and I have a gun, but would prefer not to have to use it. Quoteto bring up your AAD analogy again, she had hers... her Glock cam in quite handy that night. absolutely and for her sake I am happy. Just as I am happy for the guy who forgets to pull and gets saved by his AAD. Though after that, it would be prudent to discuss how he can make his next skydive with greatly reduced chances of needing the AAD. I think the same should be done for gun related incidents. (which is entirely different from somebody saying you shouldn't be allowed to carry a gun, I thought that was pretty obvious from the beginning) QuoteIMO, it's about time people started standing up to thugs and low-lifes who want to prey on others. How else will we turn the tide of crime? Guns have always been around in your country...why would all of a sudden it turn the tide of crime? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites kelpdiver 2 #225 December 24, 2005 Quote Guns have always been around in your country...why would all of a sudden it turn the tide of crime? Concealed carry permits are a recent development for most states. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 Next Page 9 of 14 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. 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juanesky 0 #202 December 23, 2005 My bad the word is Phrase"According to some of the conservatives here, it sounds like it's fine to beat your wide - as long as she had it coming." -Billvon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #203 December 23, 2005 QuoteI agree that reviewing the events and finding where the situation might have been averted is important. Thanks, I was finding it really odd that in a group of skydivers, I was the only one who thought like that. Accident and incident critical thinking should be ingrained in every skydiver.... Quoteis always better to avoid being in a compromised situation than to have to deal with the problems Which was my point right from the beginning. Quotebut the comment about her bravado was incorrect - in my opinion. I think she showed great strength and courage. I think her actions did as well. The bravado comment was regarding her comments to another question. Many here seem to have some trouble reading and understanding before they respond. Seems that when guns are involved, many start frothing at the mouth.... QuoteBut, I do see your point... and it is always better to learn from situations like that. You know, during Christmas in a civilized society, I think it is better to do that then to say...fuck, I'll just kill the motherfucker.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
micro 0 #204 December 23, 2005 QuoteMany here seem to have some trouble reading and understanding before they respond. Seems that when guns are involved, many start frothing at the mouth.... some posters should look in the mirror before making such silly allegations. I miss Lee. And JP. And Chris. And... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
artistcalledian 0 #205 December 23, 2005 QuoteQuoteMany here seem to have some trouble reading and understanding before they respond. Seems that when guns are involved, many start frothing at the mouth.... some posters should look in the mirror before making such silly allegations. i've stopped looking in mine, there's a crazy mofo in there staring at me ! ________________________________________ drive it like you stole it and f*ck the police Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #206 December 23, 2005 Quotesome posters should look in the mirror before making such silly allegations. If you mean me, you might as well just come out and say it. My ex-wife will tell you I don't do to well with hints And, once again, if the froth wouldn't have gotten in front of your eyes, you would have noticed I never questioned her having a gun, or her right to have one. I questioned if there could have been a way she could have avoided needing hers that night. I think that is just a logical way of looking at any incident, whether guns are involved or not. Unfortunately, guns are such an emotional subject for some that logic seems to go right out the window.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
micro 0 #207 December 23, 2005 it's your accusation of froth and emotionalism that i take exception to. those are unwarranted IMO and are all too often levelled at those who unfailingly defend one's second amendment rights. again, you can armchair quarterback this to death. while the best situation is to not need to use weapon, sometimes that cannot be avoided. it seems to me that what you're saying is that it would be better for her to have not been doing this work of charity in the first place, since it placed her in a neighborhood where the likelihood of such an incident is greater. sorry, to me that is untenable. while we should be prudent about our decisions, we should not go so far as to entirely govern our lives by what "could" happen or what "might" occur to us... to bring up your AAD analogy again, she had hers... her Glock cam in quite handy that night. IMO, it's about time people started standing up to thugs and low-lifes who want to prey on others. How else will we turn the tide of crime? I miss Lee. And JP. And Chris. And... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
artistcalledian 0 #208 December 23, 2005 QuoteHow else will we turn the tide of crime? by holding hands and singing songs join me in a little song will you? cum by yar my lord, cum by yar, cum by yar my lord, cum by yar.... cum by yard my lord, cum by yar, oh lord.. cum by yarrrrrrrrrr________________________________________ drive it like you stole it and f*ck the police Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
juanesky 0 #209 December 23, 2005 Quote.. many start frothing at the mouth.... QuoteIf you mean me, you might as well just come out and say it. My ex-wife will tell you I don't do to well with hints Yes, sure we understand you have difficulty understanding that you are commiting the same errors you are accusing Micro of. If you mean "MANY" who are those many?"According to some of the conservatives here, it sounds like it's fine to beat your wide - as long as she had it coming." -Billvon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
waltappel 1 #210 December 23, 2005 QuoteQuote.. many start frothing at the mouth.... QuoteIf you mean me, you might as well just come out and say it. My ex-wife will tell you I don't do to well with hints Yes, sure we understand you have difficulty understanding that you are commiting the same errors you are accusing Micro of. If you mean "MANY" who are those many? The original sentence was, "Seems that when guns are involved, many start frothing at the mouth.... " I hereby proudly declare myself to be one of the "many" frothers. Walt Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
micro 0 #211 December 23, 2005 QuoteQuoteQuote.. many start frothing at the mouth.... QuoteIf you mean me, you might as well just come out and say it. My ex-wife will tell you I don't do to well with hints Yes, sure we understand you have difficulty understanding that you are commiting the same errors you are accusing Micro of. If you mean "MANY" who are those many? The original sentence was, "Seems that when guns are involved, many start frothing at the mouth.... " I hereby proudly declare myself to be one of the "many" frothers. Walt well walt, if you put it THAT way, just about every time I step foot in a gun store, i'm like pavlov's dog. guilty as charged then. i like the smell of spent gun powder second only to the smell of jet exhaust. I miss Lee. And JP. And Chris. And... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
juanesky 0 #212 December 23, 2005 So are you ok with including me in the group? Even though I only got a Taurus 92FS, a S&W 500, shotgun, and an AR-15? Including CCW?"According to some of the conservatives here, it sounds like it's fine to beat your wide - as long as she had it coming." -Billvon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
waltappel 1 #213 December 23, 2005 QuoteSo are you ok with including me in the group? Even though I only got a Taurus 92FS, a S&W 500, shotgun, and an AR-15? Including CCW? No, that is up to you. I was speaking only for myself. Walt Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
juanesky 0 #214 December 23, 2005 Oh that's right, the original poster then included me! Guilty as charged too."According to some of the conservatives here, it sounds like it's fine to beat your wide - as long as she had it coming." -Billvon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
micro 0 #215 December 23, 2005 QuoteSo are you ok with including me in the group? Even though I only got a Taurus 92FS, a S&W 500, shotgun, and an AR-15? Including CCW? only if you post pics. I miss Lee. And JP. And Chris. And... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rasmack 0 #216 December 23, 2005 QuoteQuote I still won't ever support the level of presence of weapons I see in the US. That's okay... I'll protect you. Me gets warm fuzzy feeling. HF #682, Team Dirty Sanchez #227 “I simply hate, detest, loathe, despise, and abhor redundancy.” - Not quite Oscar Wilde... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Flygurl 0 #217 December 24, 2005 Quote Me gets warm fuzzy feeling. I'll look you up next time I'm in the States. I look forward to it! ________________________________________ "One out of every four American's are suffering from some form of mental illness. Think of your three best friends. If they're okay, then it's you." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dolph 0 #218 December 24, 2005 Having met Ras, yer probably gonna regret that . He's a big huggy-bear type of dude and as such I doubt he would require protection. Except from people with bear-hunting licenses. Ya coming to the Easter boogie at NJFK next time Ras? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rasmack 0 #219 December 24, 2005 QuoteHaving met Ras, yer probably gonna regret that . He's a big huggy-bear type of dude and as such I doubt he would require protection. Except from people with bear-hunting licenses. Ya coming to the Easter boogie at NJFK next time Ras? Wouldn't miss it... Are you gonna get around to announcing it at some point? Was sort of waiting for it to show up on your calendar. Antonov 28?HF #682, Team Dirty Sanchez #227 “I simply hate, detest, loathe, despise, and abhor redundancy.” - Not quite Oscar Wilde... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yamtx73 0 #220 December 24, 2005 Quote If he hadn't backed up when he did I think I would have double tapped him in the head. I'm just glad they walked away. I really do hope they think about it the next time they go to hassle someone else. Maybe looking down the barrel of a redheaded woman's Glock changed his view. In Florida she'd have been within her rights to squeeze off a couple if she felt she was in danger...The only naturals in this sport shit thru feathers... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shropshire 0 #221 December 24, 2005 <> Wow... you can shoot people because they scare you.... Great, got to take me a gun to the circus... clowns are proper frightening (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yamtx73 0 #222 December 24, 2005 not scare.. if you feel your life is in danger, and in the situation she was in....The only naturals in this sport shit thru feathers... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Scoop 0 #223 December 24, 2005 Justified Authorised Proportionate Auditable Neccesary Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #224 December 24, 2005 Quoteit's your accusation of froth and emotionalism that i take exception to. those are unwarranted IMO and are all too often levelled at those who unfailingly defend one's second amendment rights. See, but the funny thing is, nobody questioned your 2nd amendmend rights, specially not me. So, there really was no need to defend it. Quoteagain, you can armchair quarterback this to death. while the best situation is to not need to use weapon, sometimes that cannot be avoided. it seems to me that what you're saying is that it would be better for her to have not been doing this work of charity in the first place, since it placed her in a neighborhood where the likelihood of such an incident is greater. Nope, didn't say that either. Said it is normaly wise to review a lifetreatening incident to see if there is a way to reduce the risk of getting caught in one. It is the difference between: I don't care, cause I got me a gun and I have a gun, but would prefer not to have to use it. Quoteto bring up your AAD analogy again, she had hers... her Glock cam in quite handy that night. absolutely and for her sake I am happy. Just as I am happy for the guy who forgets to pull and gets saved by his AAD. Though after that, it would be prudent to discuss how he can make his next skydive with greatly reduced chances of needing the AAD. I think the same should be done for gun related incidents. (which is entirely different from somebody saying you shouldn't be allowed to carry a gun, I thought that was pretty obvious from the beginning) QuoteIMO, it's about time people started standing up to thugs and low-lifes who want to prey on others. How else will we turn the tide of crime? Guns have always been around in your country...why would all of a sudden it turn the tide of crime? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #225 December 24, 2005 Quote Guns have always been around in your country...why would all of a sudden it turn the tide of crime? Concealed carry permits are a recent development for most states. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
