SkyDekker 1,465 #301 January 5, 2006 QuoteSo, if a skydiver is put into danger with a parachute malfunction, rather than praise them for how well they executed their emergency procedures and saved themself, you would instead lecture them on how they would be better off giving up skydiving so that they wouldn't find themself in that situation in the first place? Nope, I would congratulate them on successful execution of their emergency procedures. Then I would hope some one would be smart enough to go over the course of events to try and minimize the chances of it happenening again. (and I never anywhere mentioned that I thought she should not be allowed to own a gun, but then making up arguments to support your positions isn't anything new for you is it?) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OATSF14 0 #302 January 5, 2006 QuoteI strongly feel that I handled this situation exactly right and would do it over again if necessary. I will not stay at home on my sofa because you think it's stupid for me to be in the "wrong" neighborhood irregardless of reason and I won't roll over with my legs in the air when some thug threatens me Spoken by a confident woman. Good for you. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,070 #303 February 21, 2010 Quotecongrats girl, sounds like you did it all right! glad you made it out unscathed, in more ways than one. concealed carry permits rule. perfect example of how GUNS can REDUCE CRIME! Maybe not.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
timinthesky 0 #304 February 21, 2010 good job staying alive.we need more armed citizens like you. punk ass thugs will think twice next time they try this shit.on the other hand...want a good laugh??? read the post about "you" in the bonfire. when life gives you lemons, just say fuck the lemons and bail. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diablopilot 2 #305 February 21, 2010 That's kinda low professor. One situation was not related to the other.---------------------------------------------- You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SpeedRacer 1 #306 February 21, 2010 Could be, but it brings up a question. Read flygurl's posts. You get someone who seems to be a rational gun owner. WTF Happened??? can anyone explain it here??? http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?do=post_view_flat;post=1991616;page=1;sb=post_latest_reply;so=ASC;mh=25; Speed Racer -------------------------------------------------- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BillyVance 34 #307 February 21, 2010 Quote Could be, but it brings up a question. Read flygurl's posts. You get someone who seems to be a rational gun owner. WTF Happened??? can anyone explain it here??? http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?do=post_view_flat;post=1991616;page=1;sb=post_latest_reply;so=ASC;mh=25; Who knows? People have snapped before, even perfectly rational people. Everybody has a breaking point, but it's how they handle themselves when they reach that breaking point. Flygurl and the Austin suicide pilot didn't handle theirs well. Flygurl hated her stepmom with a passion, from what the news reports said. I don't know why, so I'll leave it at that."Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,070 #308 February 21, 2010 QuoteThat's kinda low professor. One situation was not related to the other. The relationship is clear to all who are not in love with their handguns.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #309 February 21, 2010 QuoteQuoteThat's kinda low professor. One situation was not related to the other. The relationship is clear to all who are not in love with their handguns. Not saying its the same situation...but I don't think Lizzie Borden had a gun, but the outcome was quite similar in spite of a gun. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #310 February 21, 2010 QuoteQuoteQuoteThat's kinda low professor. One situation was not related to the other. The relationship is clear to all who are not in love with their handguns. Not saying its the same situation...but I don't think Lizzie Borden had a gun, but the outcome was quite similar in spite of a gun. Of course, Lizzie never penned, "Why I love my concealed hatchet permit." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,070 #311 February 21, 2010 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteThat's kinda low professor. One situation was not related to the other. The relationship is clear to all who are not in love with their handguns. Not saying its the same situation...but I don't think Lizzie Borden had a gun, but the outcome was quite similar in spite of a gun. Of course, Lizzie never penned, "Why I love my concealed hatchet permit." Nor did other hatchet lovers tell her that she was preventing crime by carrying a hatchet.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SpeedRacer 1 #312 February 21, 2010 Lizzie Borden, however, was evidently NOT the killer. In spite of what the jumprope rhyme says. Speed Racer -------------------------------------------------- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #313 February 21, 2010 QuoteLizzie Borden, however, was evidently NOT the killer. In spite of what the jumprope rhyme says. Yet I hear no dispute that her father deserved 40 whacks. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #314 February 21, 2010 Quote Quote Lizzie Borden, however, was evidently NOT the killer. In spite of what the jumprope rhyme says. Yet I hear no dispute that her father deserved 40 whacks. More than a few certainly do.... the percentage of "loving" fathers who have some pretty fucked up ideas of what "family values" mean and show a tad too much of their "love" to their little girls certainly deserve a few whacks in some strategic places. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #315 February 22, 2010 QuoteQuoteThat's kinda low professor. One situation was not related to the other. The relationship is clear to all who are not in love with their handguns. Low, indeed.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,070 #316 February 22, 2010 QuoteQuoteQuoteThat's kinda low professor. One situation was not related to the other. The relationship is clear to all who are not in love with their handguns. Low, indeed. LOW is shooting your parents.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wildcard451 0 #317 February 22, 2010 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteThat's kinda low professor. One situation was not related to the other. The relationship is clear to all who are not in love with their handguns. Low, indeed. LOW is shooting your parents. Ture, but that does not mean that your comment was not low/in poor taste. I would expect more out of someone so seemingly well educated. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,070 #318 February 22, 2010 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteThat's kinda low professor. One situation was not related to the other. The relationship is clear to all who are not in love with their handguns. Low, indeed. LOW is shooting your parents. Ture, but that does not mean that your comment was not low/in poor taste. I would expect more out of someone so seemingly well educated. Just because the incident flies in the face of your and Mike Neal's worldviews doesn't mean I have to keep quiet about it. Here we have an individual who "loves" her concealed carry permit, who is then praised IN THIS VERY THREAD for reducing crime: "perfect example of how GUNS can REDUCE CRIME!" and who then shoots her parents dead. Fair subject for comment.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #319 February 22, 2010 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteThat's kinda low professor. One situation was not related to the other. The relationship is clear to all who are not in love with their handguns. Low, indeed. LOW is shooting your parents. Ture, but that does not mean that your comment was not low/in poor taste. I would expect more out of someone so seemingly well educated. Just because the incident flies in the face of your and Mike Neal's worldviews doesn't mean I have to keep quiet about it. Here we have an individual who "loves" her concealed carry permit, who is then praised IN THIS VERY THREAD for reducing crime: "perfect example of how GUNS can REDUCE CRIME!" and who then shoots her parents dead. Fair subject for comment. Doesn't make the nature of the comment any less slimy.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,070 #320 February 22, 2010 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteThat's kinda low professor. One situation was not related to the other. The relationship is clear to all who are not in love with their handguns. Low, indeed. LOW is shooting your parents. Ture, but that does not mean that your comment was not low/in poor taste. I would expect more out of someone so seemingly well educated. Just because the incident flies in the face of your and Mike Neal's worldviews doesn't mean I have to keep quiet about it. Here we have an individual who "loves" her concealed carry permit, who is then praised IN THIS VERY THREAD for reducing crime: "perfect example of how GUNS can REDUCE CRIME!" and who then shoots her parents dead. Fair subject for comment. Doesn't make the nature of the comment any less slimy. It's only "slimy" for those whose positions it embarrasses.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #321 February 22, 2010 QuoteQuoteDoesn't make the nature of the comment any less slimy. It's only "slimy" for those whose positions it embarrasses. No, it's just plain slimy - not that I expect YOU to be able to grasp that.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #322 February 22, 2010 John, The two things do not equal to one another at all. Yes she obviously had a permit to carry and it saved her at the time of this thread. That is the intended purpose of a carry permit, to keep people safe. The other incident, years later no matter how heinous... is not related. ANYONE can get a gun if they were planning something like that. Just because she had a permit did not make it any easier for her or anyone else to get a gun. You yourself know that you can buy plenty of illegal guns if you have the money. Chicago probably has a few million of them and you can get them pretty easliy. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
masterblaster72 0 #323 February 22, 2010 Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote That's kinda low professor. One situation was not related to the other. The relationship is clear to all who are not in love with their handguns. Low, indeed. LOW is shooting your parents. Ture, but that does not mean that your comment was not low/in poor taste. I would expect more out of someone so seemingly well educated. Just because the incident flies in the face of your and Mike Neal's worldviews doesn't mean I have to keep quiet about it. Here we have an individual who "loves" her concealed carry permit, who is then praised IN THIS VERY THREAD for reducing crime: "perfect example of how GUNS can REDUCE CRIME!" and who then shoots her parents dead. Fair subject for comment. Doesn't make the nature of the comment any less slimy. The nature of gun incidents is never pleasant, because guns are made for purpose of killing or causing serious harm. So when an incident happens and someone uses it as a point to argue against guns, deal with it...the result of making use of a gun is never a nice thing. It's easy to cry "slimy" or "poor taste" when it's an incident that makes gun owners look bad. But it still doesn't make for much of a counterpoint. What I see as "poor taste" is a thread like this one where the tone was "WOOHOO I GOT A GUN, ISN'T THAT GREAT!!" I've seen scores of threads on these forums since I've signed up as a member, and though I personally don't have an objection to the right to own a gun, I find it revolting when people celebrate a new gun purchase or having pulled one on someone or whatever... Personally, if I were a gun owner, I wouldn't advertise it. I would be solemn about it and dread the occasion of having to make use of it, even at target practice. Poor taste, IMHO, is having a gun and boasting about it for the world to see...because killing others isn't a nice thing to have to do, in any circumstance (even in self-defense, when it may very well be the "right" thing to do). Not to mention the fact that owning a gun in the case of Tara's parents wouldn't have helped them one bit in their circumstance... Be humble, ask questions, listen, learn, follow the golden rule, talk when necessary, and know when to shut the fuck up. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diablopilot 2 #324 February 23, 2010 "Airplanes don't fly into buildings, people do.' Ready to give up your Mooney for the greater good Prof?---------------------------------------------- You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #325 February 23, 2010 Quote The nature of gun incidents is never pleasant, because guns are made for purpose of killing or causing serious harm. Damn, all mine, and all my family's guns must be broken then, because none of us have killed or caused serious harm to anyone with them. Quote So when an incident happens and someone uses it as a point to argue against guns, deal with it...the result of making use of a gun is never a nice thing. So when an incident happens and someone uses it as a point to argue for guns, deal with it...the result of helpless victims being killed is never a nice thing. Quote It's easy to cry "slimy" or "poor taste" when it's an incident that makes gun owners look bad. But it still doesn't make for much of a counterpoint. It's easy to cry "gun owners just want to kill" as well, evidently. Doesn't make much of a counterpoint, either. Quote What I see as "poor taste" is a thread like this one where the tone was "WOOHOO I GOT A GUN, ISN'T THAT GREAT!!" I've seen scores of threads on these forums since I've signed up as a member, and though I personally don't have an objection to the right to own a gun, I find it revolting when people celebrate a new gun purchase or having pulled one on someone or whatever... I know - how DARE she have the gall to protect herself instead of just peaceably letting herself be robbed/raped/killed like a good defenseless victim. Quote Personally, if I were a gun owner, I wouldn't advertise it. I would be solemn about it and dread the occasion of having to make use of it, even at target practice. Have you always had this shame issue with tools, or just this specific one? Quote Poor taste, IMHO, is having a gun and boasting about it for the world to see... Why? Quote because killing others isn't a nice thing to have to do, in any circumstance (even in self-defense, when it may very well be the "right" thing to do). Ah, and we're back to the 'all gun owners just want to kill someone' meme - how unsurprising. Quote Not to mention the fact that owning a gun in the case of Tara's parents wouldn't have helped them one bit in their circumstance... And you know this, how?Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
