JohnRich 4 #126 December 22, 2005 Quote I stopped at a bar to ask for directions. On my way back to my truck a group of punks started hassling me... (Devil's advocate starts) Is it legal to carry a gun into a bar in Colorado? I think in most states this is prohibited. I'm not sure you would have been justified in shooting just yet. They hadn't actually laid a hand on you, and were just following you across the parking lot and talking. Yeah, I can see how that put fear in you, but I'm not sure it rose to the level of justifying shooting at that point. (Devil's advocate ends) Oh, and to all you guys posting pictures: thank you for the displays of safe trigger discipline. But you'll never make it in Hollywood handling a gun in a safe manner like that. Attached is my photo with a few of my handguns: Colt .45 1911 Model, S&W Model 5906 9mm, German P08 Luger 9mm, German P38 9mm, S&W .38 Victory revolver, Russian 7.62 Tokarev TT33. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AlexCrowley 0 #127 December 22, 2005 I'm trying to work out how MLB became a contact sport TV's got them images, TV's got them all, nothing's shocking. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnRich 4 #128 December 22, 2005 Quote what if they had smaked her over the head before she had chance to turn in to Sylvester Stallone and took her gun and used it on her? i'm sure carrying a gun would have been a great idea then If she had not been carrying a gun, they could have smacked her over the head and done anything they want with her, including killing her. So that would not have improved the situation or her odds at all. As it was, having a gun gave her self defense options that she would not otherwise have had. Studies of people on the receiving end of criminal encounters, and their various means of self defense, show that a gun is the most effective means of avoiding becoming a victim. P.S. Congratulations for destroying another good thread, by getting it sidetracked on nationalistic pride and dentistry, with your bigoted remarks. I'm sure you are quite proud of yourself. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Scoop 0 #129 December 22, 2005 Same here... the extreme basketball one is still evading me too Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnRich 4 #130 December 22, 2005 Quote Quote I was in a shady part of town this evening and got a little bit lost isn't this where it all starts? So she was "asking for it"? Should everyone be prohibited from traveling through "shady" parts of town? (Whatever that means...) Should citizens receive no sympathy for being the victim of a criminal attack if they happen to be in a "shady" part of town? What about the poor people that live in those areas and can't afford a nicer neighborhood? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
narcimund 0 #131 December 22, 2005 Quote [So she was "asking for it"? Should everyone be prohibited from traveling through "shady" parts of town? (Whatever that means...) Should citizens receive no sympathy for being the victim of a criminal attack if they happen to be in a "shady" part of town? What about the poor people that live in those areas and can't afford a nicer neighborhood? Ask markharju about that. First Class Citizen Twice Over Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
micro 0 #132 December 22, 2005 Quote Oh, and to all you guys posting pictures: thank you for the displays of safe trigger discipline thanks for noticing! i wouldn't want a job in hollywood anyway. I miss Lee. And JP. And Chris. And... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
artistcalledian 0 #133 December 22, 2005 Quote Quote what if they had smaked her over the head before she had chance to turn in to Sylvester Stallone and took her gun and used it on her? i'm sure carrying a gun would have been a great idea then If she had not been carrying a gun, they could have smacked her over the head and done anything they want with her, including killing her. So that would not have improved the situation or her odds at all. As it was, having a gun gave her self defense options that she would not otherwise have had. Studies of people on the receiving end of criminal encounters, and their various means of self defense, show that a gun is the most effective means of avoiding becoming a victim. i wondered when John Wayne was going to ride into this topic ! you took your time !________________________________________ drive it like you stole it and f*ck the police Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AlexCrowley 0 #134 December 22, 2005 well very occasionally they might shoulder check each other - like in soccer, that other "extreme contact sport" TV's got them images, TV's got them all, nothing's shocking. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AlexCrowley 0 #135 December 22, 2005 yeah no shit. If she'd have been raped and killed she would have had no one to blame but herself for being such a tease. TV's got them images, TV's got them all, nothing's shocking. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Flygurl 0 #136 December 22, 2005 Quote I was in a shady part of town this evening and got a little bit lost -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- isn't this where it all starts? So you think I was asking for it by being in a bad part of town? Maybe that I was looking for it? I don't believe that where I was or what I was doing matters. I should be safe wherever I choose to go and whenever I go there. WOW. That was idealistic of me. That aside. No, I don't usually go to that area of town. I was delivering Christmas presents to sponsored families in need. I'll do it again next year and you can bet I'll be carrying.________________________________________ "One out of every four American's are suffering from some form of mental illness. Think of your three best friends. If they're okay, then it's you." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Scoop 0 #137 December 22, 2005 I was thinking of Rugby at the time Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #138 December 22, 2005 Quote I'm not sure you would have been justified in shooting just yet. They hadn't actually laid a hand on you, and were just following you across the parking lot and talking. Yeah, I can see how that put fear in you, but I'm not sure it rose to the level of justifying shooting at that point. The verbal statement coupled with the movement towards her would have justified such action. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AlexCrowley 0 #139 December 22, 2005 yeah. but they dont know rugby. They have a game thats like it, but for roided up girlys who can't run for more than a second or two without needing some downtime. And they need about 40 people on the team so no one gets too tired or bruised. It's boring as shit too. TV's got them images, TV's got them all, nothing's shocking. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #140 December 22, 2005 Quote really? so when i watch MLB on sunday nights, the batters with arm pads and shin pads on don't actually have those pads on and i'm seeng things? When you paying guys over $60k per game, you don't want to lose them for a few days because they got plunked by a 98mph fastball. Common sense. Same for the helmet on batters and runners - a baseball to the temple can take you down for a very long time. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
artistcalledian 0 #141 December 22, 2005 Quote Quote I'm not sure you would have been justified in shooting just yet. They hadn't actually laid a hand on you, and were just following you across the parking lot and talking. Yeah, I can see how that put fear in you, but I'm not sure it rose to the level of justifying shooting at that point. The verbal statement coupled with the movement towards her would have justified such action. she should have shot the whole town up, you can't take chances with those mofo's________________________________________ drive it like you stole it and f*ck the police Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
micro 0 #142 December 22, 2005 Quote Quote Quote I'm not sure you would have been justified in shooting just yet. They hadn't actually laid a hand on you, and were just following you across the parking lot and talking. Yeah, I can see how that put fear in you, but I'm not sure it rose to the level of justifying shooting at that point. The verbal statement coupled with the movement towards her would have justified such action. she should have shot the whole town up, you can't take chances with those mofo's she prolly would've, but she knew you were still across the pond. I miss Lee. And JP. And Chris. And... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AlexCrowley 0 #143 December 22, 2005 kelp, that was a direct response to someone stating that MLB was a contact sport with no pads TV's got them images, TV's got them all, nothing's shocking. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GTAVercetti 0 #144 December 22, 2005 Quote yeah. but they dont know rugby. They have a game thats like it, but for roided up girlys who can't run for more than a second or two without needing some downtime. And they need about 40 people on the team so no one gets too tired or bruised. It's boring as shit too. I second that. Football sucks. Unless it is Australian rules football. Why yes, my license number is a palindrome. Thank you for noticing. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rasmack 0 #145 December 22, 2005 You rock! I still won't ever support the level of presence of weapons I see in the US.HF #682, Team Dirty Sanchez #227 “I simply hate, detest, loathe, despise, and abhor redundancy.” - Not quite Oscar Wilde... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
markd_nscr986 0 #146 December 22, 2005 Quote Is it legal to carry a gun into a bar in Colorado? I think in most states this is prohibited. Not in Colorado http://cbi.state.co.us/ccw/statutes/18-12-214.aspMarc SCR 6046 SCS 3004 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
juanesky 0 #147 December 22, 2005 And not in RI either. Good job Flygurl..."According to some of the conservatives here, it sounds like it's fine to beat your wide - as long as she had it coming." -Billvon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Flygurl 0 #148 December 22, 2005 Quote Is it legal to carry a gun into a bar in Colorado? According to Colorado law, there are four places you cannot carry: 1. Private property that has posted signs prohibiting guns 2. Federal government buildings 3. Public schools K-12 4. Public buildings that prohibit ALL weapons of any kind and that have security personnel at each entrance It is, however, unlawful to carry while consuming alcohol. I don't know the specifics. I don't carry when I'm drinking. ________________________________________ "One out of every four American's are suffering from some form of mental illness. Think of your three best friends. If they're okay, then it's you." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
waltappel 1 #149 December 22, 2005 Quote Sink/Walt - You do realize that those pictures you posted here will come back to haunt you. I already visualize them stored on both Kallend's and Billvon's desktops for future use. And these guys are fairly reasonable on this particular topic compared to some others. I know you intended Billvon and Kallend only as examples, so this is a waste of time, but I'll say it anyway and I know you will agree with this. Billvon and Kallend are both standup guys. They are honest guys. I regularly disagree with some of their views--in fact it's a bit of a rarity for me to agree with any of Kallend's views--but they are both intelligent, articulate, honest, and, unlike me, have no history (at least that I know of) of delivering low blows to people who post here. If they want to save those pictures and resurrect them later to make some sort of point with me, I'm ok with that because I'm very sure they will do it in an honest way and not conveniently ignore the original context. As for anyone else, I'm ok with that too. The police know who I am and where I live. They have my fingerprints on file. They know I am armed. They have also investigated my background and have chosen to entrust me with a Concealed Handgun License, and neither they nor I take that lightly. The fact is, that those pictures do not show any evidence whatsoever of any crime or mishandling or misuse of firearms. If anyone else chooses to throw rocks from the shadows, that's ok. Everyone who posts in Speakers Corner is knowingly making themselves a target. I'm ok with that and I say bring it on. Walt Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
artistcalledian 0 #150 December 22, 2005 Quote Quote that's right, run red, i'll save you from that crazy madman who tells long ass stories in The Bonfire! back off walt #2 Sorry, Sinker guy--I'm thinkin' Li'l Ms. Red prefers a Glock man--especially a man with 2 Glocks! Walt nice pair of cigarette lighters you've got there ________________________________________ drive it like you stole it and f*ck the police Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
