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yeah, thats why i deleted my response to him 
TV's got them images, TV's got them all, nothing's shocking.
TV's got them images, TV's got them all, nothing's shocking.
JohnRich 4
QuoteQuoteNow you're the one getting carried away with crazy accusations, and bashing me in the same way that you protest from others...
Do I protest when I'm bashed? That's very naughty of me. Please provide me with some recent examples so I know what you're talking about.
I didn't say that you protest about yourself being bashed. I don't see anyone bashing you, including myself - we're being polite. I said that you protest "from others", i.e. on behalf of other people. For example:
Message #115:
I think there are people here who owe the OP an apology.Message #173:
I wonder if any of the "fuddy duddies" realize that they have demonized and verbally assaulted the original poster. She does not deserve the treatment she has received...I'm not going to bash you for that, like you do me. After all, we were both being protective of "OP": you by standing up for her, and me by speaking out against what I considered to be an inappropriate action against her by the stripper.
That's ironic, because somehow you consider me a ogre for doing basically the same thing you are doing - defending "OP". Go figure.
Your main objection to me seems to be the "cum-licking" analogy, but I never stated any such thing. I stopped short of that. In fact, it was rsmn17 herself, the person for whom this subject is about, who introduced that idea in message #57. So if you don't like the cum-licking analogy, take it up with her.
JohnRich 4
QuoteIt's because I'm old school...
Uh-oh, is that an admission that you too are a fuddy-duddy?
Want to join the Fuddy Duddy Skydivers of America club?
yamtx73 0
QuoteQuoteQuoteSo you are saying that if a male stripper picks up a can of whipped cream and starts to spray it down the audience-member's pants, and she protests, that the stripper is okay to just go ahead and do it anyway?
You better be very careful about allowing that. Because then there is no stopping many things.
When a woman says "no", by gosh, that means no. Even if she's at a strip club.
I went back and re-read every post made by the OP and at no point did she say she protested. She did say she was surprised but not once did she say anything about protesting. All she wanted to know was if this was normal behavior for a stripper.
I didn't say she protested. I presented a hypothetical scenario in order to highlight the serious problem with your proposition that once a woman goes on stage with a male stripper, then "anything goes".
Would you care to try again to address that issue?
Ok, you asked for it...
Any person who goes to a stripper show has at least some rudimentary idea of what to expect, and if they get up on stage with the dancer they are implicitly agreeing to become part of the show. There's no other reason for them to be on stage, arguing that they don't know is bullshit because they've been sitting there watching and know what is going on. They also have the ability to say no and every exotic dancer out there will respect that. Their JOB is to stimulate the audience, which won't happen if someone is on the stage with them screaming or crying. They rely on the people watching the PERFORMANCE for their income, they know when to stop just as you know when to pull.
The only naturals in this sport shit thru feathers...
QuoteQuoteIt's because I'm old school...
Uh-oh, is that an admission that you too are a fuddy-duddy?
Want to join the Fuddy Duddy Skydivers of America club?
I don't know that I'm a true Fuddy Duddy, but I do understand where you are coming from. I agree with you that there was a real lack of respect for women shown by that male stripper and I don't like it either.
On the other hand, I think this whole discussion has gotten really overblown because no real harm was done.
As far as joining the club goes, I'd like to keep my options open, because I'm not sure that I can lick whipped cream from a woman's butt crack (which I would do very respectfully and with love, of course) and remain as a member in good standing. If you have an associate membership, though, I could go for that.
"Ma'am, may I have the pleasure of licking some whipped cream from your lovely butt crack?"
I'm really surprised the discussion has gone on this long because I think everyone agrees that what the stripper did was not very cool, there's just disagreement on how bad it was and any larger issues that it may have been symptomatic of.
You respect women and insist that other men do too. I think that's a good thing. If it sometimes leads you to overreact when you see or hear about disrespectful behavior being shown toward a woman, I'm ok with that because well, just because I'm ok with that.
If that makes me a Fuddy Duddy, then sign me up, but I still prefer the term "Old School".
Walt
billvon 3,008
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>if a 21-year-old man talks a 14-year-old girl . . .
And what if the girl is an ewe? And what if the man is really 16 but forged his driver's license? And what if it takes place on her birthday as they cross the international date line on a tractor?
Again, we were talking about acts between TWO CONSENTING ADULTS. And my statement stands - it doesn't matter what YOU think of their sexual activities, what matters is what THEY think of them.
And what if the girl is an ewe? And what if the man is really 16 but forged his driver's license? And what if it takes place on her birthday as they cross the international date line on a tractor?
Again, we were talking about acts between TWO CONSENTING ADULTS. And my statement stands - it doesn't matter what YOU think of their sexual activities, what matters is what THEY think of them.
Quoteyeah, thats why i deleted my response to him
Well, I'm definitely ready for that tongue.
Oops...wrong thread...
rl
If you don't know where you're going, you should know where you came from. Gullah Proverb
hahahaha
You think you and John could be considered consenting adults?
TV's got them images, TV's got them all, nothing's shocking.
You think you and John could be considered consenting adults?
TV's got them images, TV's got them all, nothing's shocking.
QuoteQuoteQuoteNow you're the one getting carried away with crazy accusations, and bashing me in the same way that you protest from others...
Do I protest when I'm bashed? That's very naughty of me. Please provide me with some recent examples so I know what you're talking about.
I didn't say that you protest about yourself being bashed. I don't see anyone bashing you, including myself - we're being polite. I said that you protest "from others", i.e. on behalf of other people.
John,
I can't keep up when people redefine the English language to mean what they say it means, not what English-speaking people understand it to mean.
"from others" does not mean "on behalf of other people."
It means what it means. You miswrote...whatever, but it is what you wrote, and now you're changing the meaning.
No one can argue like that. And it's a bad reflection on you, not on those who don't understand you, because no one but you interpreted it the way you're now casting it.
Good grief.
rl
If you don't know where you're going, you should know where you came from. Gullah Proverb
Quotehahahaha
You think you and John could be considered consenting adults?
Do you think that if it were John and me, I would consent?
Bait and switch (a/k/a equivocation) is one of the lowest forms of argument. People who do it are not on my list for anything but avoidance.
rl
If you don't know where you're going, you should know where you came from. Gullah Proverb
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John, watch my lips:
Someone who has not reached the age of consent, cannot consent.
Do you understand? It's not a consensual sex act. A fourteen year old cannot legally consent, even if she does say yes.
It was a tangent. Everyone here but you understood what bill mean, and even you understood, you just pretended not to.
Sheesh! Do you ever back down and admit that you're wrong? Or do you just hold your position until everyone else gives up on the discussion?
rl
This post makes me swoon.
Why yes, my license number is a palindrome. Thank you for noticing.
QuoteQuote
John, watch my lips:
Someone who has not reached the age of consent, cannot consent.
Do you understand? It's not a consensual sex act. A fourteen year old cannot legally consent, even if she does say yes.
It was a tangent. Everyone here but you understood what bill mean, and even you understood, you just pretended not to.
Sheesh! Do you ever back down and admit that you're wrong? Or do you just hold your position until everyone else gives up on the discussion?
rl
This post makes me swoon.
It should. It has a typo.
I meant "meant" not "mean."
rl
If you don't know where you're going, you should know where you came from. Gullah Proverb
John, watch my lips:
Someone who has not reached the age of consent, cannot consent.
Do you understand? It's not a consensual sex act. A fourteen year old cannot legally consent, even if she does say yes.
It was a tangent. Everyone here but you understood what bill mean, and even you understood, you just pretended not to.
Sheesh! Do you ever back down and admit that you're wrong? Or do you just hold your position until everyone else gives up on the discussion?
rl
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