JohnRich 4 #101 January 4, 2006 QuoteQuoteAs I said before I have no issues if your life dream of a family is having a crack addict whore as a family member, but don't try to belittle anyone who is opposed to your views if they are trying to protect one of their own. What are you talking about? What does a strip show have to do with crack addict whore? Here is my take on where he is going with the "crack addict whore" reasoning. Suppose you don't object to a male stripper performing simulated sex acts with your daughter on a public stage. And presumably you definitely would not want your daughter to be a crack addict whore. I doubt there is any disagreement over this scenario. Okay, so where do you draw the line between the stripper performance, and having your daughter be a crack addict whore? Different people are going to draw that line in a different place. Being an old fuddy-duddy myself, I draw the line somewhere before the stripper. Others apparently put the line somewhere between the stripper and the crack addict whore. We all make moral judgements based upon our own beliefs and upbringing. Fuddy-duddy's are more puritanical than others. That doesn't make them wrong. We should respect the choices of others, up to a point. In this particular case, I don't see any great harm done, because it was her free choice. (However, there was an element of trickery involved.) My choice, if I had any say-so in the matter regarding my own granddaughters, would be to say "hell no". I would like to think that people could respect my choice, instead of calling me a nut... In order to help you understand my point of view regarding my granddaughters, here is a photo of me (the big guy), with one of my sons, and my two granddaughters. (See the attachment) If any man sticks his tongue up their butt cheeks at this age, or even later without their permission, I'll kick his ass.Signed, Fuddy Duddy Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnRich 4 #102 January 4, 2006 QuoteQuoteI would think that just about any tongue in my butt was a bit strange. I'm with you on that one!! I can't see how someone could do that to a complete stranger...i'd have trouble doing that to someone I knew!! If you wouldn't like doing that to someone else as a stranger, then why do you think it's no big deal that it was done to you by a stranger? It's a violation of The Golden Rule: "Do unto others as you would have others do unto you." The stripper didn't bother to ask for your permission before he did it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnRich 4 #103 January 4, 2006 QuoteI think I'd hafta be in love...can't think of a better way to say I love you I think a kiss on the lips would be better than a tongue in the ass. But that's just me, an old fuddy-duddy. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnRich 4 #104 January 4, 2006 Quoteperhaps you should teach them NOT TO GET ON STAGE then... (good luck) because once you do you are part of the act.... Negative. Just because a woman gets on stage with a stripper, doesn't mean that "anything goes". That's an old fuddy-duddy rule, not in vogue much any more. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AlexCrowley 0 #105 January 4, 2006 So John, you're allowed to make a comment regarding my daughter yet completely ignore my response to you? Hardly a way to have an informative debate. TV's got them images, TV's got them all, nothing's shocking. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnRich 4 #106 January 4, 2006 QuoteI've been known to haul some teenagers away from a concert when they went up on stage and participated in the act. It was part of what I needed to do as the official mom. The argument "But they were offering a Tshirt!" held no sway . That said, I'd be pretty pissed if I was asked to "go along with this" and it involved my butt crack and whipped cream and some strange guy's tongue. I'd expect something like the kind of kiss you see on movies (e.g. holding me and dipping me really low), or maybe some sort of palming of my gorgeous body (yeah, that's the ticket). But that picture is, frankly, tacky. I'd be a little embarrassed if a picture like that of me were running around the internet. Of course, I'm almost as old as John Oh my gosh, another fuddy-duddy! (Notice that I omitted the "old" part?) That makes two of us. And in true skydiving tradition, we've now got to start a club. Since I started this fuddy-duddy stuff, I hereby claim the rights to FDSA (Fuddy-Duddy Skydivers of America) membership number "1". Would you like to be founding member FDSA #2, dear Wendy? Fuddy-Duddy's of America; Come out of your shells! Come out of your closets! Speak up and be noted! Don't let the stripper whipped cream ass-lickers make you feel intimidated. Stand up for yourself. Say; "I'm a fuddy-duddy and I'm proud!" Who is with me? I can feel the force of my fellow fuddy-duddy's out there reading this message right now. You know who you are - you're grinning right now while reading this. Go ahead, just do it - speak up! Low membership numbers are going to go fast. Get yours today!John Rich President, Fuddy Duddy Skydivers of America Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AlexCrowley 0 #107 January 4, 2006 Yeah, she's also a hypocrite. You should see some of the shots I got of her and my wife after a bottle of tequila and some serious imagination. TV's got them images, TV's got them all, nothing's shocking. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #108 January 4, 2006 Can I get a number too.. I own guns and am not into that whole whipped cream ass licking thing Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnRich 4 #109 January 4, 2006 QuoteSo John, you're allowed to make a comment regarding my daughter yet completely ignore my response to you? Hardly a way to have an informative debate. You'll have to be specific as to which message number to which you wish me to respond. This thread was kind of busy overnight, and I'm catching up. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnRich 4 #110 January 4, 2006 QuoteCan I get a number too.. I own guns and am not into that whole whipped cream ass licking thing That pledge is sufficient information for me to graciously award you FDSA#3. Congratulations! FDSA signatures, soon to be appearing in log books at a drop zone near you.John Rich, FDSA#1 wmw999, FDSA#2 Amazon, FDSA#3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rsmn17 0 #111 January 4, 2006 ***I think I'd hafta be in love...can't think of a better way to say I love you -You know I was just kidding about that right?? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rsmn17 0 #112 January 4, 2006 ***I'm with you on that one!! I can't see how someone could do that to a complete stranger...i'd have trouble doing that to someone I knew!! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- If you wouldn't like doing that to someone else as a stranger, then why do you think it's no big deal that it was done to you by a stranger? -The whole point of that was that I would have a problem being the LICKER, but I was the LICKEE....very different in my opinion!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rsmn17 0 #113 January 4, 2006 Can I join too??? Or am I too much of a crack whore?? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,008 #114 January 4, 2006 >Or am I too much of a crack whore?? Nope, sorry. I am afraid you are on "that side" of the line. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RhondaLea 4 #115 January 4, 2006 QuoteRL, I understand what you and others are saying that JohnRich is going a bit overboard, but I'm going to defend him somewhat on this. I'm sorry, Walt. The defense doesn't work because the point is that he went overboard. He can object to the act and not want his granddaughters involved. But his granddaughters weren't part of the act. And the act didn't simulate what he said it did. I don't think any of the objections to John's post have anything to do with him being a "fuddy duddy." Having personal limits is not a crime, and it's not even objectionable. The minute you impose those limits outwardly, however, it becomes something different, especially if your mind twists something very simple into very complex, but totally erroneous symbolism. I don't think that's so hard to understand. The "crack whore" nonsense and the comparison to rape were not his, but they were also over the top. And I think there are people here who owe the OP an apology. rlIf you don't know where you're going, you should know where you came from. Gullah Proverb Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,460 #116 January 4, 2006 QuoteYou should see some of the shots I got of her and my wife after a bottle of tequila and some serious imagination.Sweetie, there was no male stripper cream-eating going on in those shots. That part was your imagination your wife in male dress. We'll have to get together to re-live old times sometime Wendy W.There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RhondaLea 4 #117 January 4, 2006 QuoteThe "crack whore" nonsense and the comparison to rape were not his, but they were also over the top. ...but he co-opted the "crack whore" bs pretty quick. If you don't know where you're going, you should know where you came from. Gullah Proverb Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Samurai136 0 #118 January 4, 2006 QuoteYou should see some of the shots I got of her and my wife after a bottle of tequila and some serious imagination Were you imagining this? NSFW or at least fuddy-duddys http://purelymag.com/temp/free/Dita%20Von%20Teese%20-%20Blender%20Photoshoot%2005.jpg "Buttons aren't toys." - Trillian Ken Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RhondaLea 4 #119 January 4, 2006 QuoteWere you imagining this? NSFW or at least fuddy-duddys http://purelymag.com/temp/free/Dita%20Von%20Teese%20-%20Blender%20Photoshoot%2005.jpg I guess this is supposed to simulate bukkake? Sorry. It's just that whipped cream has such a long tradition of its own in sex play, I will probably never get over what John turned it into. In the 34 years I've been sexually active, I've known some pretty adventurous guys, but I've never known one of them to intentionally lick up his own ejaculate after anal sex. rlIf you don't know where you're going, you should know where you came from. Gullah Proverb Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rsmn17 0 #120 January 4, 2006 ***In the 34 years I've been sexually active, I've known some pretty adventurous guys, but I've never known one of them to intentionally lick up his own ejaculate after anal sex. I guess this is normal to the fuddy-duddys!! They're a wild bunch Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yamtx73 0 #121 January 4, 2006 QuoteQuoteWere you imagining this? NSFW or at least fuddy-duddys http://purelymag.com/temp/free/Dita%20Von%20Teese%20-%20Blender%20Photoshoot%2005.jpg Whipped cream is fun, enjoy it... As for the original post, I have no idea if it's normal behavior or not... as long as the OP didn't mind I don't see any problems with it, but then I'm some sort of deviant.... I guess this is supposed to simulate bukkake? Sorry. It's just that whipped cream has such a long tradition of its own in sex play, I will probably never get over what John turned it into. In the 34 years I've been sexually active, I've known some pretty adventurous guys, but I've never known one of them to intentionally lick up his own ejaculate after anal sex. rlThe only naturals in this sport shit thru feathers... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnRich 4 #122 January 5, 2006 QuoteAnd the act didn't simulate what he said it did. Were you there? How do you know what the male performer intended with the whipped cream? How do you know what the performer intended by mounting her from behind while she lay on the floor? I suppose female lap dancers don't really intend to simulate sex when they're squirming around on the lap of a male customer? You're blasting me for my assumptions, yet you are making some of your own, without really knowing what was in the mind of the performer... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnRich 4 #123 January 5, 2006 QuoteQuoteThe "crack whore" nonsense and the comparison to rape were not his, but they were also over the top. ...but he co-opted the "crack whore" bs pretty quick. I simply offered a possible explanation for what he meant by that phrase. Now who's making every little thing into something evil? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rsmn17 0 #124 January 5, 2006 Just curious...have you ever been to a strip club before? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnRich 4 #125 January 5, 2006 QuoteWere you imagining this? NSFW or at least fuddy-duddys http://purelymag.com/temp/free/Dita%20Von%20Teese%20-%20Blender%20Photoshoot%2005.jpg Oh come now, surely you don't think that the whipped cream in that photo is intended to be sexy by representing male ejaculate, do you? Why, that would be just absolutely crazy. No one would do that in a scene intended to excite an audience of the opposite sex. Porno movies, especially, never, ever show cum shots. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
