NelKel 0 #1 January 3, 2006 Are they going to make it out OK?_________________________________________ Someone dies, someone says how stupid, someone says it was avoidable, someone says how to avoid it, someone calls them an idiot, someone proposes rule chan Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
j0nes 0 #2 January 3, 2006 i hope for the best, but things look grim. what a horrible way to go, i only imagine drowning would be worse... or maybe burning to death. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NelKel 0 #3 January 3, 2006 I voted yes, I have been following it, and they have some highly trained men with 20 plus years trapped. I think they have found a place with oxygen to wait for rescue. The company has drilled severial holes trying to locate their exact position, but have been unsucessful thus far. They were equiped with between 1-5 hrs. of oxygen a piece. The rescue crews have been unsucessful at locating them so far. Good luck to the men and their familys._________________________________________ Someone dies, someone says how stupid, someone says it was avoidable, someone says how to avoid it, someone calls them an idiot, someone proposes rule chan Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BillyVance 34 #4 January 3, 2006 It's definitely a very very difficult situation, being that the trapped miners are something like a mile deep and a mile away from the shaft... "Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
markd_nscr986 0 #5 January 3, 2006 I dont think they will...........the odds are against them........ but it would be great if I was wrongMarc SCR 6046 SCS 3004 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Remster 30 #6 January 3, 2006 QuoteThey were equiped with between 1-5 hrs. of oxygen a piece I'm not sure where you got that, but its pretty rare to go underground with O2, unless you are going in as a rescuer. There usually is some O2 in tanks located in lunchrooms or resuce rooms, but you have to get to those. The only typical form of breathing aparatus miners carry are Self Rescuers that extract the CO when breathing through it. It doenst create O2 tho, nor is it a pleasant experience to have you lips and throat burned by the exotermic reaction.Remster Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NelKel 0 #7 January 3, 2006 They were equiped with between 1-5 hrs. of oxygen a piece -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I'm not sure where you got that, but its pretty rare to go underground with O2, unless you are going in as a rescuer. There usually is some O2 in tanks located in lunchrooms or resuce rooms, but you have to get to those. The only typical form of breathing aparatus miners carry are Self Rescuers that extract the CO when breathing through it. It doenst create O2 tho, nor is it a pleasant experience to have you lips and throat burned by the exotermic reaction. Remster Muff 914 <<< That is what the reporter stated on the news. Ha! so you and I both know it must be true._________________________________________ Someone dies, someone says how stupid, someone says it was avoidable, someone says how to avoid it, someone calls them an idiot, someone proposes rule chan Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peacefuljeffrey 0 #8 January 4, 2006 Quotei hope for the best, but things look grim. what a horrible way to go, i only imagine drowning would be worse... or maybe burning to death. Drowning doesn't seem like it would be that bad, actually. I've come close two or three times while kayaking. I actually found myself thinking, "Ah, well, maybe this is the time I don't make it up for air. Well, it's possible that someone'll drag me onto shore and resuscitate me..." Yep, all sorts of thoughts were going through my head while I was trying to hold my breath -- more and clearer than you'd expect would happen in a short period of time like that. I'd rather drown, I think, than run out of food or air or water, or freeze to death. I'm not answering the poll. I think it's in questionable taste. I hope they come back safe. -Jeffrey-Jeffrey "With tha thoughts of a militant mind... Hard line, hard line after hard line!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lisamariewillbe 1 #9 January 4, 2006 QuoteI'm not answering the poll. I think it's in questionable taste. so is this Quote Drowning doesn't seem like it would be that bad, actually. and just incase you didnt realize, drowning, is running out of air , which is in response to this QuoteI'd rather drown, I think, than run out of food or air or water, or freeze to death. Sudsy Fist: i don't think i'd ever say this Sudsy Fist: but you're looking damn sudsydoable in this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Michele 1 #10 January 4, 2006 One confirmed body; still unknown about the others. Rest in peace. What a horrid thing. Apparently, the mining company had many safety violations (some reports have it more than 200) in 2005... Ciels- Michele ~Do Angels keep the dreams we seek While our hearts lie bleeding?~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peacefuljeffrey 0 #11 January 4, 2006 QuoteQuoteI'm not answering the poll. I think it's in questionable taste. so is this Quote Drowning doesn't seem like it would be that bad, actually. That was a direct response to someone offering a personal view that drowning would be a bad way to die. And I offered my personal view that I thought it would not be that bad. It had nothing to do with "taste" because I was not talking about how/whether a bunch of innocent mine workers might die. WTF is your problem? Quoteand just incase you didnt realize, drowning, is running out of air , which is in response to this QuoteI'd rather drown, I think, than run out of food or air or water, or freeze to death. You're so hot to try to call me out that you don't mind looking foolish? Drowning is taking water or fluid into the lungs. It's not about running out of air. You could have a whole scuba tank on at the ready and then take the mouthpiece out and suck in water and you'd drown. You can run out of breathable air in an enclosed space. Is that the same as drowning? Why don't you lose this petty hard-on you have against me? WTF, did I insult your honor or something? Ohhh, that's right, it was about RELIGION, wasn't it? I insulted your RELIGION, and now you bear a grudge against me, to the point where you come out of the woodwork to try to make me look like I'm wrong about random facts. More proof, perhaps, that religious people cannot abide anyone else's views? If you express a different one, you incur the wrath of a religious person. I'll make a mental note of it. -Jeffrey-Jeffrey "With tha thoughts of a militant mind... Hard line, hard line after hard line!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lisamariewillbe 1 #12 January 4, 2006 Quote it was about RELIGION, wasn't it? I insulted your RELIGION lmao I would call you a fool but it would be a waste of my time... maybe how i react to your posts has alot to do with how you think ... ie not so bad way to die , druggies deserve what they get etc etc... and people thing artistcalledian is a troll... on a grim note, one of the miners has been found in a mine car... no idenity yetSudsy Fist: i don't think i'd ever say this Sudsy Fist: but you're looking damn sudsydoable in this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peacefuljeffrey 0 #13 January 4, 2006 QuoteQuote it was about RELIGION, wasn't it? I insulted your RELIGION lmao I would call you a fool but it would be a waste of my time... maybe how i react to your posts has alot to do with how you think ... ie not so bad way to die , druggies deserve what they get etc etc... and people thing artistcalledian is a troll... Not bothering with capitalization... Writing "thing" instead of "think"... Are you posting drunk?! Quoteon a grim note, one of the miners has been found in a mine car... no idenity yet Good reporting, there. Found in a mine car what? Could you be a little more specific as to his condition? Help me out, here... -Jeffrey-Jeffrey "With tha thoughts of a militant mind... Hard line, hard line after hard line!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lisamariewillbe 1 #14 January 4, 2006 Look it up on a computer dipshit... just like I did... not hard go to www.google.com type in west virginia miners hit recent news... and BAM there you goSudsy Fist: i don't think i'd ever say this Sudsy Fist: but you're looking damn sudsydoable in this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Michele 1 #15 January 4, 2006 QuoteCould you be a little more specific as to his condition? Help me out, here... Had you read the other posts, PJ, you'd've seen the condition was dead... Now there's not much hope for the other dozen, as they can't seem to be found. Ciels- Michele ~Do Angels keep the dreams we seek While our hearts lie bleeding?~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RhondaLea 4 #16 January 4, 2006 QuoteWhy don't you lose this petty hard-on you have against me? WTF, did I insult your honor or something? The only character you're giving insight into here is your own. Now we know how you think, not how LisaMarie thinks. Unlike you, for most of the rest of us, it's about the issue at hand, not about petty grudges from which we cannot free ourselves. Too bad for you. rlIf you don't know where you're going, you should know where you came from. Gullah Proverb Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peacefuljeffrey 0 #17 January 4, 2006 QuoteQuoteCould you be a little more specific as to his condition? Help me out, here... Had you read the other posts, PJ, you'd've seen the condition was dead... Now there's not much hope for the other dozen, as they can't seem to be found. Ciels- Michele I understood that; I had read the other posts. I was pointing out the inaccurate (careless?) way in which lisamariewillbe had reported. -Jeffrey-Jeffrey "With tha thoughts of a militant mind... Hard line, hard line after hard line!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lisamariewillbe 1 #18 January 4, 2006 QuoteI was pointing out the inaccurate http://middlegeorgia.cox.net/cci/newsnational/national?_mode=view&_state=maximized&view=article&id=D8ETJJTO0 what was that you were saying???? Sorry you failed in being successful at a search... theres the info for the challanged.Sudsy Fist: i don't think i'd ever say this Sudsy Fist: but you're looking damn sudsydoable in this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RhondaLea 4 #19 January 4, 2006 QuoteI understood that; I had read the other posts. I was pointing out the inaccurate (careless?) way in which lisamariewillbe had reported. The last time I looked, this was a discussion board, not MSNBC. We have no reporters here. We have plenty of inaccurate and careless posts here. One should always clean thine own house before checking the dust on thy neighbor's bookcase. rlIf you don't know where you're going, you should know where you came from. Gullah Proverb Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,106 #20 January 4, 2006 I once spent a day down a deep coal mine. That was one day too many. At the best of times it's awful and dangerous. Those among you who are anti-union need to recall that the mine safety rules we have now are nearly all the result of union pressure rather than altruism by mine owners, and safety violations by mining companies are still frequent.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TomAiello 26 #21 January 4, 2006 LisaMarie, Jeffrey, Lay off the personal attacks. Consider this your last warning on your spat with each other. Next person to make an attack gets banned from this forum.-- Tom Aiello Tom@SnakeRiverBASE.com SnakeRiverBASE.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
craddock 0 #22 January 4, 2006 QuoteLook it up on a computer dipshit Clearly a Personal Attack. If many people did that here they would be banned Quotego to www.google.com type in west virginia miners hit recent news... and BAM there you go Quoteon a grim note, one of the miners has been found in a mine car... no idenity yet Quote I was pointing out the inaccurate http://middlegeorgia.cox.net/...cle&id=D8ETJJTO0 what was that you were saying???? Sorry you failed in being successful at a search... theres the info for the challanged Settle down there. Your post was inaccurate. The Miner was found 700 ft from the mine car. That spot isn't bad at all, the winds were strong and that was the issue! It was just on the downwind side. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peacefuljeffrey 0 #23 January 4, 2006 Do y'all understand what I'm saying? A person who had not heard any news, who reads, "One of the miners was found in a mine car," could easily wonder, "Well, was he ALIVE?" "Found" does not equate automatically to "found DEAD." -Jeffrey-Jeffrey "With tha thoughts of a militant mind... Hard line, hard line after hard line!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Muenkel 0 #24 January 4, 2006 It is true that one body has been found so far. The miners are trapped between 13000 and 15000 feet into the mountain. That's 2-3 miles. Also, the carbon monoxide levels have been extremely high. It does look grim. My prayers are with the men and their loved ones. Chris _________________________________________ Chris Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lisamariewillbe 1 #25 January 4, 2006 Thats not what I said.... I said on a GRIM note... one was found....Sudsy Fist: i don't think i'd ever say this Sudsy Fist: but you're looking damn sudsydoable in this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
