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Is this going to be like that "I want to call my truck a 350" thing that I'm just never going to understand?

Actually that doesn't matter quite as much anymore. I used to think the F-650 was the end all great powerful truck and being a 550 driver had up there.
But after looking at the specs (attached here) on this caterpillar engine, I saw that this was just not the case. This 12.0 liter beauty could not ever be in an F-650, it just weighs too much. And by the same token, the power it generates can not be compared. I just wish truck drivers made more money. That way I could quit telecom and drive an 18 wheeler with that engine.
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If I could make a wish, I think I'd pass.
Can't think of anything I need
No cigarettes, no sleep, no light, no sound.
Nothing to eat, no books to read.

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Hooker is an absolutely brutal position to play. I generally played wing forward.

For those who don't know the game, the hooker is generally a little guy who is held between by two very large guys in the scrum. If you're not very careful, it's a great way to break your neck.

I qualify as a little guy (by rugby standards) at 5'11" and 185 lbs, so I had to do it for three games. I was more afraid playing hooker the three times I did it (two in college and once just recently) than I have been in any of my skydives (not that there's all that many of those, yet).

I played hooker for two seasons! The ears took the worst beating.

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[billvon 3,033]

>spent at least 5 minutes asking around if there were female tandem instructors . . .

Yep. I'd much rather jump with Lew as a TM than with Ed. (Come to think of it, Lew could probably carry me without much trouble.) But I guess everyone's different.

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>spent at least 5 minutes asking around if there were female tandem instructors . . .

Yep. I'd much rather jump with Lew as a TM than with Ed. (Come to think of it, Lew could probably carry me without much trouble.) But I guess everyone's different.

I'd rather carry my girlfreind than be carried by anybody myself. But like you said everybody is different.
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Can't think of anything I need
No cigarettes, no sleep, no light, no sound.
Nothing to eat, no books to read.

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Now if I was the parent I probably would not have it. However, I think its pretty obvious that the kid wants to be a girl. So if they are going to allow him in there, why not issue the kid a skirt. If they did so, it would still look like cheerleaders and probably nobody would even notice. Instead as they had it, it looked like 20+ cheerleaders and one future flamer which I think is far more repulsive.

So they shouldn't allow it because you find it repulsive? I'm sure they don't give a rat's ass how you feel.

Good for them for letting the little guy be happy, even at your expense.

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So they shouldn't allow it because you find it repulsive?
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Actually I think they gave him shorts that matched the skirts to avoid the spectators finding it repulsive. But I think they were in essence accomplishing the opposite.
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I'm sure they don't give a rat's ass how you feel.

Good for them for letting the little guy be happy, even at your expense.

You don't think the little guy would be happier if he looked and dressed like the rest of the girls?
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Can't think of anything I need
No cigarettes, no sleep, no light, no sound.
Nothing to eat, no books to read.

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You don't think the little guy would be happier if he looked and dressed like the rest of the girls?

I have no idea. Maybe it's up to him and his parents to make that choice,not you.

Maybe he hasn't asked and has no interest in wearing a skirt. Maybe he wants to. Who knows?

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>You don't think the little guy would be happier if he looked and
>dressed like the rest of the girls?

If he wants to, that's fine. If not, that's fine too. Who knows? If he gets into this cheerleading thing, maybe _he_ could be president someday!

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You don't think the little guy would be happier if he looked and dressed like the rest of the girls?

I have no idea. Maybe it's up to him and his parents to make that choice,not you.

Maybe he hasn't asked and has no interest in wearing a skirt. Maybe he wants to. Who knows?

Well if a girl wants to play football they don't make special uniform for them. They still have to wear the same tight pants helmet and shoulder pads that the boys have to. The ones that want to don't typically have a problem doing so.
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Can't think of anything I need
No cigarettes, no sleep, no light, no sound.
Nothing to eat, no books to read.

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Well if a girl wants to play football they don't make special uniform for them. They still have to were the same tight pants helmet and shoulder pads and typically the ones that want to do that have no problem doing so.

You are kidding, right?

A football uniform is designed for protection and functionality in a contact sport.

We're talking about a cheerleading squad here. Should male ballet dancers wear tutu's?

I'm betting I know your answer

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Well if a girl wants to play football they don't make special uniform for them. They still have to were the same tight pants helmet and shoulder pads and typically the ones that want to do that have no problem doing so.

You are kidding, right?

A football uniform is designed for protection and functionality in a contact sport.

We're talking about a cheerleading squad here. Should male ballet dancers wear tutu's?

I'm betting I know your answer

actually there are a few differences there.
First of all the function of the cheerleaders really is to look pretty and a little flamer sticking out like a sore thumb ruins that for the rest of them.
As for the male ballet dancers wearing tutu's. If you went to a ballet you, would see that its like show involving acting. Male ballet dancers are ussually involved in what appears to be romance with the females.
However, if you were talking about a male ballet dancer that was flaming all thoughout his act then yes, it would be better that this character be in a tutu and atleast come close to passing as female. Because watching a guy like Michael Jackson, Liberachy, or Prince is not a pleasant prospect. Now if you you found out that Jamie Lee Curtis had sexual reassignment surgery you, as she actually did because she was born intersexed, most people wouldn't care, because she appears and acts completely feminine and doesn't look like a freak.

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First of all the function of the cheerleaders really is to look pretty and a little flamer sticking out like a sore thumb ruins that for the rest of them.

AHHHHH.... I thought their function was cheering. Silly me.

Again... someone else is supposed to care how you feel about a boy wanting to be in a cheerleading squad?

Your homophobic jaw is foaming a bit, dude. He's a little kid, not a little "flamer". Your standards (thankfully) only matter to you, not to him, his parents, or a lot of other people. Better get used to it.

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>First of all the function of the cheerleaders really is to look pretty and
> a little flamer sticking out like a sore thumb ruins that for the rest of
> them.

I know several cheerleaders who would take offense to that. It's like saying that the only function of a big jacked-up truck is to try to make the driver look cool.

>However, if you were talking about a male ballet dancer that was
>flaming all thoughout his act then yes, it would be better that this
>character be in a tutu and atleast come close to passing as female.

I take it you've never seen a Cirque de Soleil show.

>Now if you you found out that Jamie Lee Curtis had sexual
>reassignment surgery you, as she actually did because she was
>born intersexed, most people wouldn't care, because she
>appears and acts completely feminine and doesn't look like a freak.

Most people wouldn't care if she dressed like a man, either.

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I can hear it now.

"You there -- get back into that box! Don't stray from your assigned role"

Wendy W.

There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown)

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I can hear it now.

"You there -- get back into that box! Don't stray from your assigned role"

Wendy W.

Doesn't quite sound like what I am saying. When I rode bulls you HAD to have a cowboy hat on your head before they opened the buckingshoot and you had to have a long sleeve colared shirt on as well. (atleast when I rode) All I am saying is, if you want to be a bull rider you should dress like a bull rider, when riding. I am not suggesting anybody's role be assigned. But altering a role to suit your purposes in not the same thing as choosing your role.
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But altering a role to suit your purposes in not the same thing as choosing your role.

The boy is wearing SHORTS. How is that altering any roles? He wants to CHEER.

WTF?

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But altering a role to suit your purposes in not the same thing as choosing your role.

The boy is wearing SHORTS. How is that altering any roles? He wants to CHEER.

WTF?

The rest of them are wearing a uniform. He is wearing an altered form of it. Girls' basketball teams don't wear skirts for uniforms because their purpose is not to look pretty. The same way shorts on a cheerleader don't fit the picture.
It has nothing to do with the activity they are involved in. Cheerleaders are as active if not more than basketball players. But whether or not you or anybody else likes it, the function of cheerleaders unlike basketball players is to look pretty or else they would all be in shorts.
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So he was sort of a cheerleader lackey?

Have you seen how the guys hold up the girls? It looks like the guys hold them up by having the girls sit their crotch right on the guy's hand.

Not a bad extracurricular activity.

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Fine. Shorts are prettier on boys, skirts are prettier on girls. He wears shorts, they wear skirts and everyone's pretty.


You make a very silly point here.

you've got to ask yourself one question: 'Do I feel loquacious?' -- well do you, punk?

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It's like saying that the only function of a big jacked-up truck is to try to make the driver look cool.

Nope, totally wrong Bill. The only function of a jacked-up truck is compensation for other inadequacies. Women have plastic surgeons to turn to, men get jacked-up trucks.

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That was funny...

Who cares what the kid wants to do? Looking back at my youth I did things outside the normal boxes from time to time and a few of those things turned out to benifit me a lot down the road. Learning Parliamentary Procedure through FHA made it possible to understand how to speak before a board and how to properly appeal a decision. With out those skills I would have looked like an idiot trying to force a point improperly to an elected board. Roget's Rules really pay off from time to time.

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>Learning Parliamentary Procedure through FHA . . .

Sounds good, but the important question is - did you wear a tutu?

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>A male being carried by females in that senario just looks disturbing to me.

Why? I wouldn't mind! Better than being carried by a bunch of guys.

Yes, and also better than being mulched in a wood chipper. But what does that have to do with it?

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It's like saying that the only function of a big jacked-up truck is to try to make the driver look cool.

Nope, totally wrong Bill. The only function of a jacked-up truck is compensation for other inadequacies. Women have plastic surgeons to turn to, men get jacked-up trucks.

Oooh, Pop-Psych 101! Can I play, too?!

Everyone knows that gun ownership is compensation for having a small penis! Everyone knows that!

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Everyone knows that gun ownership is compensation for having a small penis! Everyone knows that!

It is??? Damn, I need to get myself a gun...