DrewEckhardt 0 #26 December 9, 2006 Quote Why were you doing front riser turns below 1,000ft? Because turning approaches build the most speed for high-performance landings. A front-riser turn is preferable to a toggle turn because it's faster and when you turn too low it takes less time to recover. The problem there is that you need enough experience in total, under the given canopy, and in the environment you're jumping in (density altitude, DZ land marks) to recognize when you're too low and take the appropriate action. You're more likely to get that experience without significant injury by being conservative. Although most swoopers prefer 180, 270, and even bigger turns a 90 degree turn is _not_ conservative. It's still enough to get 50+ MPH after planeout under a moderate sized canopy. Conservative means knowing what to do with your speed once you have it. You should know how to turn arround obstacles after planeout before you have to do it going very fast and be able to stop diving while still in a turn. Then it means symetric front risers, 15, 30, 45, 60, 75, and finally 90 degrees. Conservative also means a more gradual carving approach. Keeping the canopy accelerating longer means more speed. You also have more time to adjust your turn rate to end up where you want. And finally, it means formal instruction. Quote I have always been told, throughout AFF and afterwards, not to make ANY radical turns below 1,000ft. Light toggle turns yes, but front risers?? Turning approaches increase the risk and amount of experience required to keep your chances of dying or being injured on landing lower so students are told not to do them. They're also the most fun you can have under canopy. The big problem is getting there without getting hurt too badly. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MagicGuy 0 #27 December 9, 2006 Yeah, I know about front risers and whatnot and how they are used to build speed, giving you a nice long swoop. But it just seemed at 125 jumps doing front riser turns at 150ft is probably not the best idea. I do agree that they are fun as hell, though. I love doing 360s on my fronts. I do them under canopy all the time, but never below 1,000. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Docfriar 0 #28 December 10, 2006 Hello Something similar happened to me this summer. I came in a little to high and my first thought was to fly it out. But, DUMMY I was I tried turning to fly parallel to the landing area. We have a really small landing area that has a stream running along side it. When I turned the windsock was in my field of view and I over reacted and turned myself into the ground from about 100 feet. That was my 86th Jump and 11 Jump after I downsized to a 170. The main thing I learned from this is every time you downsize, you have to treat it as your FIRST JUMP. I broke my lower leg (Tibia with 6 screws and Hip with 4 screws both with TITANIUM PLATES.) Hope to be Jumping in May 07. Blue Skies PS Attachment is a picture of my HIP Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
