UK Smoking Ban

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But what about BOLD, ITALICIZED, UNDERLINED CAPS?

Y'All missed out COLOURS!!!

As in: GIRLIES VOTING FOR CHOCOLATE ARE INVINCIBLE!!!... COMPLETELY AND UTTERLY INVINCIBLE!!!!!

Now... What was this thread about again?

Mike.

Taking the piss out of the FrenchAmericans since before it was fashionable.

Prenait la pisse hors du FrançaisCanadiens méridionaux puisqu'avant lui à la mode.

[CornishChris 5]

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But what about BOLD, ITALICIZED, UNDERLINED CAPS?

Oh, that actually does make it right.

CJP

Gods don't kill people. People with Gods kill people

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But what about BOLD, ITALICIZED, UNDERLINED CAPS?

YOU FORGOT TO MAKE THEM RED!!!!!!!

Edit: Damn you everyone who type faster than me. May your asses itch and your arms be too short.

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and don't forget to use the work fuck.......often.

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fuck.......often.

Won't forget.

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fuck.......often.

Won't forget.

NICE FUCKING GOING ASSWIPE! YOU FUCKING FORGOT FUCKING ALREADY! FUCKER!

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Woosh.......

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fuck.......often.

Won't forget.

NICE FUCKING GOING ASSWIPE! YOU FUCKING FORGOT FUCKING ALREADY! FUCKER!

WHAT THE FUCK IS YOUR GODDAMN PROBLEM? DON'T YOU FUCKING KNOW HOW TO USE THE FUCKING BOLD, ITALIC, AND RED FUCKING KEYS? FOR FUCK'S SAKE! DO I HAVE TO DO EVERY FUCKING THING ROUND HERE?

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WHAT THE FUCK IS YOUR GODDAMN PROBLEM? DON'T YOU FUCKING KNOW HOW TO USE THE FUCKING BOLD, ITALIC, AND RED FUCKING KEYS? FOR FUCK'S SAKE! DO I HAVE TO DO EVERY FUCKING THING ROUND HERE?

Underlining?.... YOU DORIS!

Mike.

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Oh yeah... Smoking in Bars... REMEMBER!!?

Actually, we've got even more draconian legislation coming into force in Scotland NEXT MONTH!!!

Smoking is to be banned in ALL Enclosed Public Spaces!

Interestingly, an "Enclosed-Public-Space" actually includes the cab of a works truck or van, but not in a company car. So truck & van drivers can be done for smoking, UNLESS it's their own private van.

In the meantime, licensees are braced for a BIG loss in trade. At least the bar staff won't have to work in a smoky atmosphere - it's expected that 30-40% of them won't be working at all while smokers drink at home instead.

Mike.

Taking the piss out of the FrenchAmericans since before it was fashionable.

Prenait la pisse hors du FrançaisCanadiens méridionaux puisqu'avant lui à la mode.

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right, underlining.

damn.

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They did it in Ireland already & some people were worried that the bars would lose too much business. It didn't happen. so it will probably have the same result in the UK.

there are some counties in America where they have bans on smoking in restaurants etc. These bans are not made on the national level though.

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while smokers drink at home instead.

yes, alone, at home, mumbling about junk, drinking 8 or 9 drinks, several times a day, just to forget (whatever)

like nature intended us to drink

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A restaurant in Satellite Beach did lose a lot of business. Granted, it's case was special however.

The business was a high-class restaurant and cigar lounge. A large portion of its clientele were executives having informal meetings/dinners because they a top-class dinner and a quality cigar worked to offer much to the atmosphere.

When they banned smoking in restaurants, they continued allowing hoping that they could cover the fines with the extra business. They almost went bankrupt. Needless to say, they ended up having to close the cigar lounge.

In Florida, at least, smoking is still allowed in strict bars (where food is not served) or with a special smoking license (ie: for cigar lounges). I do believe a restaurant license and a smoking license are mutually exclusive.

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Realizing it won't work for a lot of places, can some pubs have a covered open area, like a patio, where smoking and drinking can take place?

Just curious. I don't smoke, and won't miss it. Of course, people drinking at home won't have to drive home drunk any more, will they?

Wendy W.

There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown)

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Of course, people drinking at home won't have to drive home drunk any more, will they?

which will make the roads twice as dangerous

think about it

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Exactly. The problem is, the majority of the British public are thinking these kinds of encroachments by government are GOOD things, done for everyone's BENEFIT.

It is called a "democracy". People get what they ask for. You got an oil-money boy who wanted to finish daddy's war, and now the British are banning smoking.

Wait a sec, here.
First, it was, "Brits don't support living in a surveillance/police state, or the taking away of their liberties by their government," and now you're saying, "Yeah, we got these government actions because we're a democracy and that's what the people wanted. What of it?"

So which is it?
Is the current state of erosion of privacy and individual rights something you are getting from your government because it decided to foist it on you,
or is it because your people, acting through your democracy, have indicated that they want this stuff?


My original point was that the British are sitting down for this, and letting it happen, and are therefore culpable for it happening to them. Someone protested that, and said, "No no no, we're not in favor of giving away our rights." And now you are saying, "Yeah, it's by choice that we're giving away our rights -- we're a democracy, and that's how we made this decision.



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-Jeffrey
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and don't forget to use the work fuck.......often.

FuckinA!

I was gonna fuckin' say that!


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-Jeffrey
"With tha thoughts of a militant mind... Hard line, hard line after hard line!"

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In the meantime, licensees are braced for a BIG loss in trade. At least the bar staff won't have to work in a smoky atmosphere - it's expected that 30-40% of them won't be working at all while smokers drink at home instead.

Mike.

But I get criticized for pointing out the fact that Brits are cheering legislations that will have unintended (but NOT unforeseeable) consequences just like what you mention here.

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-Jeffrey
"With tha thoughts of a militant mind... Hard line, hard line after hard line!"

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Keep it up. It's amusing as hell from across the sea.

Oh don;t you worry, it goes both ways, we're having a right old laugh from this side too.

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....can some pubs have a covered open area, like a patio, where smoking and drinking can take place?

That's been mooted, and some pubs have built gazebos with "extensive wind breaks" & heating in their gardens. Right now, it's still a bit vague at what point a public space becomes "enclosed". It's certainly more than having no doors or windows - then comes the issue of security when the bar's closed.

The big thing against this is the climate. 9 months or so of the year we're below 50 fahrenheit outside - not conducive to sitting still drinking.

Of course, there's also the possibility of mute disobedience to the law. While The British have a long tradition of being peaceful & law-abiding, they also have a tradition of "Turning a Blind Eye" and making unpopular things unworkable.

In some bars, with the connivance of the licensee & staff, I suspect that the smoking ban may prove to be unenforceable.

Mike.

Taking the piss out of the FrenchAmericans since before it was fashionable.

Prenait la pisse hors du FrançaisCanadiens méridionaux puisqu'avant lui à la mode.

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Keep it up. It's amusing as hell from across the sea.

Oh don;t you worry, it goes both ways, we're having a right old laugh from this side too.

Yeah, until they outlaw laughing for being socially insensitive, and jokes for being deprecatory and malicious.

If any non-islamic country in the world is gonna try that, it'll be England first.

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"With tha thoughts of a militant mind... Hard line, hard line after hard line!"

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They shouldn't allow smoking. Smoking is bad for you. What if I want to go in there because I like the atmosphere, but I don't want to be exposed to smoke? You shouldn't be allowed to smoke anywhere except in a little airtight box.

Think of the children!

I really hope thats sarcasm.

If you find yourself in a fair fight, your tactics suck!

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First, it was, "Brits don't support living in a surveillance/police state, or the taking away of their liberties by their government," and now you're saying, "Yeah, we got these government actions because we're a democracy and that's what the people wanted. What of it?"

Dude, I'm not British and I think you may be mixing me up with another poster (CornishCris). My point was just that if this is what they want, well OK then. Power to them. Their decision. Who are you to say that:

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The problem is, the majority of the British public are thinking these kinds of encroachments by government are GOOD things

I may think that Bush is a jerk. I may critisize things happening in your society. It is not my place to tell you what to think, and it is not your place to tell the British what to think.

HF #682, Team Dirty Sanchez #227
“I simply hate, detest, loathe, despise, and abhor redundancy.”
- Not quite Oscar Wilde...

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Dude, I'm not British and I think you may be mixing me up with another poster (CornishCris)

That's CornishChris to you sir.

CJP

Gods don't kill people. People with Gods kill people

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Are U saying I cant spel?

HF #682, Team Dirty Sanchez #227
“I simply hate, detest, loathe, despise, and abhor redundancy.”
- Not quite Oscar Wilde...