SkyDekker 1,465 #26 February 15, 2006 QuoteWhile the decision to change names may have been based on expected monetary gain... the REAL question IS about PC... the real question is about how stupid people can be with any issue. Even a non-offensive one like when Texas won their independence. I think the team members are pussies for changing the name because someone got their feelings hurt. I also think that anyone offended by the name "1863" is a dumb-shit. Most of the hispanic people that called the show were not offended by the name, but then it was a conservative station. I have a feeling that the team MIGHT lose 1% of their ticket sales because of the name... so what does that add up to 5-10 tickets? Ahhh okay, if you are not offended by something, that means that nobody should be offended by it. And if people are offended, then they are obviously a dumb-shit. I said this to somebody else, but I think it applies here too. I suggest finding the similarities between a mind and a parachute. Second, if you don't agree, then obviously you are free not to go to one of their soccer games. If you aren't interested in soccer to begin with, then why do you care what a private organization does. Specially when it doesn't alter your life in any way? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #27 February 15, 2006 QuoteHer overall theme was that people, who happen to be Mexicans in this case, should stop wasting time bitching about shit like this. And you bitching about it makes you different from these Mexicans...how? QuoteOn the other note...capitalism...I really don't care WHAT the reason was for the name change. followed by: QuoteBut the fact that someone took offense to it in the first place just shows how thin our skins have really become. Would make your skin pretty thin too. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GTAVercetti 0 #28 February 15, 2006 No, because I don't CARE what the name is. At all. You could have a team called the Whitey McCrackers and I wouldn't care. You know why? Because I don't get offended that easily. So let me get this straight: One one side you have those who complained about a NAME and got it changed so they would not be offended by a word. On the other side, you have me who is bitching about the fact that they would get offended so easily. Other than the fact that we are complaining, what exactly is the similiarity? I am not complaining to get them to change it back. I really don't care. I didn't care before they changed the name and I don't now. I am not directing my energy at anything except displaying my disgust; I am not offended by the name or their actions. Of course this diverts from my original point anyway (nicely done by the way): You responded with an incorrect respose to Rebecca by responding to an idea she never imposed. That was all I actually came here to say but you changed it around again and I sucked myself in. Damn me.Why yes, my license number is a palindrome. Thank you for noticing. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nightingale 0 #29 February 15, 2006 It's really stupid that some people try to bury history just because it might make some people uncomfortable. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #30 February 15, 2006 QuoteOn the other side, you have me who is bitching about the fact that they would get offended so easily. Sounds like you got offended pretty easily as well. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Trent 0 #31 February 15, 2006 The silliness of your argument here offends me. Please change your argument to be less offensive to me so that the world will be a better place. If you don't do this immediately, I will wittily imply that your mind is not open. Stop trying to generalize this issue so that you have something to argue about. This is pretty simple. Texas won independence from Mexico in 1836. This is viewed by people in Texas (including many people of Mexican descent) as a good thing. A soccer team is named after an important historical date in our history, and somehow it is offensive. THIS is stupid. Would you support people of British descent bitching an crying over the 76er's name? Do our July 4th celebrations offend someone? Would you back them in being offended? Or are you just arguing this time because someone said "mexicans" and their feelings are more important than those evil Brits? QuoteIf you aren't interested in soccer to begin with, then why do you care what a private organization does. Specially when it doesn't alter your life in any way? Because it's fun to confront bullshit when you see it. If you don't live here and care about soccer, why are you arguing about it?Oh, hello again! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GTAVercetti 0 #32 February 15, 2006 QuoteQuoteOn the other side, you have me who is bitching about the fact that they would get offended so easily. Sounds like you got offended pretty easily as well. There is quite the difference between offense and disgust, but I know how you love to ignore the points that don't let you get your little jabs in (see! I can do it too! Only without the ignoring part! One more exclamation point!). There is also the little fact that at the end of the day, I really don't care and am not going to do a damn thing about it. No angry letters or calling my congressman. ya know why? Cause in the end, its done and it does not matter. You keep skipping that don't you? I don't care about results in this case. I care about reasons.Why yes, my license number is a palindrome. Thank you for noticing. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GrendelKhan 0 #33 February 15, 2006 Well, you know what they say, the squeeky wheel gets the grease. or...The vocal minority has a greater power to affect change on the issues they deem necessary to devote the time, energy and resources to than others who can not or are not willing to devote an equal amount of resources. It may be frivolous to change a name because a small percentage finds it offensive, but if there was an equal movement and outcry to keep the name, it might have stayed. Grendel Khan-The Official DZ.Com Newbie Forum Nuisance "They sicken of the calm, that know the storm." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rebecca 0 #34 February 15, 2006 QuoteSay something negative to one of the popular girls and watch all the testostorone heavy guys flock and jump in...I feel like I am watching a high school dance.... OHMYGOD!! I'm popular???? I AM??? Oh my gosh, this is so, so unexpected, and so very flattering! I've never been popular before - it's so exciting! All these doors are gonna just open up, and people will give me things, and I can say any stupid thing I want without consequence! I don't even need my pesky brain anymore! Yay!! Now bow to me, less popular one. you've got to ask yourself one question: 'Do I feel loquacious?' -- well do you, punk? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #35 February 15, 2006 QuoteAll these doors are gonna just open up, and people will give me things, and I can say any stupid thing I want without consequence! You are a female in skydiving, this really shouldn't be a new experience.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #36 February 15, 2006 QuoteTexas won independence from Mexico in 1836. This is viewed by people in Texas (including many people of Mexican descent) as a good thing. A soccer team is named after an important historical date in our history, and somehow it is offensive. THIS is stupid. Would you support people of British descent bitching an crying over the 76er's name? Do our July 4th celebrations offend someone? Would you back them in being offended? Or are you just arguing this time because someone said "mexicans" and their feelings are more important than those evil Brits? No I wouldn't support them. But then I also wouldn't care if they changed the name of the team if they thought they could make more money that way. It happens all the time. NHL teams move and the name is changed, so it can make more money. A soccer team decides it can make more money if they change their name. Really who cares? Is your history defined by the name of a soccer team? Does that date become any less significant now that the soccer team doesn't have that name anymore? Are people not free to be offended? QuoteBecause it's fun to confront bullshit when you see it. If you don't live here and care about soccer, why are you arguing about it? I am arguing about the...if you don't like it you can get the hell out attitude. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Trent 0 #37 February 15, 2006 It's not about the name actually being changed or not. It's about the fact that some bored, cause-hunting, publicity hounds actually decided to be offended by something that is historical truth and pretty much the reason we're all here in this state. The issue is that people STILL beleive they have a right to not be offended and DEMAND that anyone who offends them should bend to their will. I have the same issue with the islam-Denmark thing.Oh, hello again! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #38 February 15, 2006 QuoteI suggest finding the similarities between a mind and a parachute. I suggest evaluating how our 'evolved' and 'enlightened' and 'open minded as a parachute' liberal role models can so comfortably stereotype Mexicans as our "toilet cleaners". I wonder what your typical Mexican immigrant thinks of that in terms of equality and fairness. Sorry, my testosterone got a hold of me for second there. Won't happen again. (Frankly, after Rebecca's toepick comment I don't think she needs any protectors. I'm scared of her and turned on at the same time. Is that wrong?) ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rebecca 0 #39 February 15, 2006 QuoteQuoteAll these doors are gonna just open up, and people will give me things, and I can say any stupid thing I want without consequence! You are a female in skydiving, this really shouldn't be a new experience.... Oh it's not!! Besides, who needs respect for one's opinions and intellect when you've got boobies? Weak, dude. Weak like chamomile tea. you've got to ask yourself one question: 'Do I feel loquacious?' -- well do you, punk? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #40 February 15, 2006 QuoteWeak, dude. Weak like chamomile tea. You think you're so tough. Put down that toepick and say it to me then. ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GTAVercetti 0 #41 February 15, 2006 QuoteQuoteI suggest finding the similarities between a mind and a parachute. I suggest evaluating how our 'evolved' and 'enlightened' and 'open minded as a parachute' liberal role models can so comfortably stereotype Mexicans as our "toilet cleaners". I wonder what your typical Mexican immigrant thinks of that in terms of equality and fairness. Man! I completely missed that. Damn you are good.Why yes, my license number is a palindrome. Thank you for noticing. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #42 February 15, 2006 QuoteOh it's not!! Besides, who needs respect for one's opinions and intellect when you've got boobies? Weak, dude. Weak like chamomile tea. I am not the one giving you preferential treatment, you seem to have enough here doing that for you already I don't see what your earlier statement has to do with boobies anyways. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rebecca 0 #43 February 15, 2006 QuoteQuoteWeak, dude. Weak like chamomile tea. You think you're so tough. Put down that toepick and say it to me then. Oh no you didn't!! Toepick is down. Dukes are up. Step outside so we don't offend anyone and we'll dance. I'll even smile while I'm doing it. you've got to ask yourself one question: 'Do I feel loquacious?' -- well do you, punk? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GTAVercetti 0 #44 February 15, 2006 Rebecca, I just wanted you to know. I would have no qualms getting into verbal fisticuffs with you if I disagreed with what you said. I ain't scurred of no toepick. Preferential treatment, my ass. Why yes, my license number is a palindrome. Thank you for noticing. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rebecca 0 #45 February 15, 2006 QuoteQuoteOh it's not!! Besides, who needs respect for one's opinions and intellect when you've got boobies? Weak, dude. Weak like chamomile tea. I am not the one giving you preferential treatment, you seem to have enough here doing that for you already I don't see what your earlier statement has to do with boobies anyways. Let's get back to my earlier statement now and resume with your sexism later. Where, exactly, did I opine that all the toilet-cleaning Mexicans can just shut up and be happy or go home? Hmm? you've got to ask yourself one question: 'Do I feel loquacious?' -- well do you, punk? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #46 February 15, 2006 QuoteI suggest evaluating how our 'evolved' and 'enlightened' and 'open minded as a parachute' liberal role models can so comfortably stereotype Mexicans as our "toilet cleaners". Since I am the only one on this thread who did that....Thank you for addressing me in Pluralis Majestatis. Funny you would think of me as your liberal role model. First, I don't live in your country, second I am a registered conservative, third, I could care less what a Mexican immigrant in Texas thinks of me. Fourth, I didn't say all. Fifth, it was stated in a scenario of all mexicans leaving. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,439 #47 February 15, 2006 I'll be honest, I thought it was one of the stupidest names I ever heard of for a sports team when I first heard it announced, just because it was stupid. How do you alphabetize it? What is the short, cute name (the thirty-sixers is still too long). How do you make a cute semi-pejorative name out of it (like the Houston Lastros we all know and love ). It's an utterly undistinguished name, with nothing to build identification. I completely accept the capitalism reason, but dang we're spending a lot of time on people who don't have enough to care about. Maybe we need more to care about wendy W.There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rebecca 0 #48 February 15, 2006 QuoteRebecca, I just wanted you to know. I would have no qualms getting into verbal fisticuffs with you if I disagreed with what you said. I ain't scurred of no toepick. Preferential treatment, my ass. And that's why I like you and respect you. Besides, toepicks are so last season. Nunchucks are in a revival. you've got to ask yourself one question: 'Do I feel loquacious?' -- well do you, punk? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Trent 0 #49 February 15, 2006 QuoteNo I wouldn't support them. But then I also wouldn't care if they changed the name of the team if they thought they could make more money that way. It happens all the time. NHL teams move and the name is changed, so it can make more money. A soccer team decides it can make more money if they change their name. Really who cares? Again, not what this is about. QuoteIs your history defined by the name of a soccer team? Does that date become any less significant now that the soccer team doesn't have that name anymore? No, again, not what this is about. QuoteAre people not free to be offended? Getting warmer... Sure, they are free to be offended. It is the FACT that they are offended that is stupid. Do you think it's reasonable that they are offended by this? Really? And YES, it is STUPID that someone is offended by something as insignificant as a soccer team name. The fact that naming something after a date that created our state can be deemed offensive, is retarded. I wonder if the San Jacinto monument is equally offensive and deserves to be taken down. Why do I get to say what people are offended about in this case is stupid? Because Stone Cold said so!Oh, hello again! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Trent 0 #50 February 15, 2006 The 76ers are a staple that have some loyal fans. Their name is pretty distinct and stuff. Whatcha got to say to that? Anyways... as long as they have a mascot that is non-gender/ethnicity/sexual orientation-specific... who really cares anyway? But still, it's stupid that people got offended by a name like 1836.Oh, hello again! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
